Boat rides with Wolves

Finally got around to tame wolves, and succeeded. On starter island ran first one back to main base but no 1-star or higher so went searching other islands.

Found one and bred a few 1 stars at temp base near mountain biome but wanted them back at main base on starter island.

Found out getting wolves onto boat (can't portal with wolves) was easy - order them to follow, build small ramp higher than boat and push wolf off and down into boat. No probs.

But getting the damn wolf out of the boat once docked at main base is a giant hassle. Wolves can't path over even tiny ledges apparently so can't step off the boat (either kind, karve or longboat) no matter how close to dock or land.

So ended up having to build a stair piece on the dock-side and another stair piece on boat side, but only when the waves were timed right to allow placing the piece while boat was falling below the height of the stair, or collision would occur and actually push the boat away from dock.

Long trial and error later, finally got stairs snapped, then shoved wolf on boat side near the stairs and just onto it. Once there, would finally auto follow with normal pathing to follow off boat and into new pen.
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Flin Fredstone replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 1, 2021 @ 8:31:36 pm PST

Beaching the boat on the shores in shallow water and then destroying the boat wouldnt be an option ?
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Mozzy replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 1, 2021 @ 11:39:54 pm PST

oh! I totally did not even think of that.

Guess I could try taking a karve next time, longboat is lot easier to get wolf into and out of via the stairway build process but karve would take less whacks to destroy.

Will give that a shot next time need to ferry wolves.
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Flin Fredstone replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 1, 2021 @ 11:53:06 pm PST

Hope it works for you. On a boat travel note; You only need to do a one way travel with a boat when it contains cargo. Saves many many empty boat sailing time.
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Bittamin replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 12:49:55 am PST

After reading this I get the impression you haven't tried out the harpoon?

You can turn on PvP and physically drag the wolf with it over some pretty intense obstacles, easily the railing of a longboat. I literally just got my first 2 star wolf to an ocean base for the first time 5 minutes ago haha. I had it follow me, but also tethered by harpoon the whole trip because i didn't trust the little bastard to not commit suicide by deathsqito or something.

Also you can drive a boat while having a creature tethered being towed behind you at a very managable stamina cost. Great way to import boars since they don't seem to get in the boat too gud
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Mozzy replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 8:31:26 am PST

Originally posted by Bittamin:
After reading this I get the impression you haven't tried out the harpoon?

You can turn on PvP and physically drag the wolf with it over some pretty intense obstacles, easily the railing of a longboat. I literally just got my first 2 star wolf to an ocean base for the first time 5 minutes ago haha. I had it follow me, but also tethered by harpoon the whole trip because i didn't trust the little bastard to not commit suicide by deathsqito or something.

Also you can drive a boat while having a creature tethered being towed behind you at a very managable stamina cost. Great way to import boars since they don't seem to get in the boat too gud

Another good suggestion, thanks. Totally forgot harpoon even exists - hadn't been able to make one yet in any of my games since I restarted so many times.

Have not yet encountered the leviathan - island thing in ocean to get the barnacles yet. Hopefully one one randomly and try out the harpoon

Why do you have to turn on pvp though? Does it not work on tame creatures if pvp is off?
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Faceplant8 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 1:52:52 pm PST

Thanks for the ideas. I'm just about to try this.

I just got finished building my temporary wolf pen, taming a pair of wolves and started them breeding when I got hunted! I don't think I'm going to need to farm them for a while:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2617581795

35 wolves in a matter of a couple of minutes. Thank Odin I have good armor and the Bonemass ability!
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Pyro Penguin replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 2:50:33 pm PST

Originally posted by Mozzy:
Why do you have to turn on pvp though? Does it not work on tame creatures if pvp is off?
since hearth and home you can't damage your tamed animals unless you enable pvp or use the new butcher knife
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Faceplant8 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 5:17:29 pm PST

Well. This is going to be harder than was advertised in the brochure!

I decided to take 4 wolves on the journey and leave two behind (just in case). I lead the four followers out the door, and they almost immediately get killed by drake.

I have to lead them across quite a bit of mountain and a bit of plains to get them to water. I already cleared the village in the plains, but drake are everywhere, so I either have to be quicker on the bow or breed some closer to my base/water.

Edit: Going down the other side of the mountain is much shorter and ends in meadows, so I think I'll try that. I just have to trudge the boat parts over the mountain to the other side of the continent, sail it around, or build a new one.

The sailing is also much longer due to the layout of the land masses, but I'll deal with that when I get to it. :-)

I do enjoy being challenged again. Next up lox migration!
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Faceplant8 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 8:00:19 pm PST

Holy #$%@. Took out the next batch. No problems until I reached the steep slope down to the boat. Of course, all I could do was slide down the slope. Got to the bottom and the wolves were nowhere to be seen. Found 6 drakes and a stone golem looking for them, but no remains, so I don't know what happened to them... RIP #2.
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Mozzy replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 9:26:09 pm PST

I think I got really lucky finding wolves in snow area that had zero drake spawns. The regular wolves I got on starter island on very small mountain biome - so small no silver or obsidian but easy wolves.

Only 1 star wolf found was also in a small mountain with no drake spawns.
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Yakumo_2020 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 10:01:26 pm PST

Originally posted by Flin Fredstone:
Beaching the boat on the shores in shallow water and then destroying the boat wouldn't be an option ?
it wasn't before H&H because hitting the boat would usually also hit some of the animals on it. Now destroying the boat should work fine since tamed animals don't take "friendly fire" damage, just always remember to do it shallow water so you don't lose the mats for the boat.
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Faceplant8 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 3, 2021 @ 3:29:36 pm PST

Got two wolves loaded onto a longboat and made it back to base with one of them. The other died from a sea monster. I'm not sure exactly how or why. It seemed like it hit him and drug him off the boat.

Also lost several pup. I thought the wolves were getting injured at first, then I realized that it was pups being born on a moving boat and (I assume) staying in place. I had a similar problem the first time I tried to push off the boat and realized that "stay" was relative to the land, not the boat!

I did learn another way to get the wolf off the boat. I saw a boar nearby where I landed and agroed him toward me and the wolf (on the boat near me). The wolf jumped off the boat and killed the boar along with a couple of pesky neaks.

I'll probably try another trip with a few more and hopefully get at least one more back.

Oh, this time I tamed a new pair of wolves on a much smaller mountain without drakes, and I also built a shack next to the boat and escorted the wolves one at a time, just in case. The mountain is next to plains, and I saw a couple of fulings, but they were not a problem.
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Xilo The Odd replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 3, 2021 @ 3:37:18 pm PST

Originally posted by Faceplant8:
Well. This is going to be harder than was advertised in the brochure!

I decided to take 4 wolves on the journey and leave two behind (just in case). I lead the four followers out the door, and they almost immediately get killed by drake.

I have to lead them across quite a bit of mountain and a bit of plains to get them to water. I already cleared the village in the plains, but drake are everywhere, so I either have to be quicker on the bow or breed some closer to my base/water.

Edit: Going down the other side of the mountain is much shorter and ends in meadows, so I think I'll try that. I just have to trudge the boat parts over the mountain to the other side of the continent, sail it around, or build a new one.

The sailing is also much longer due to the layout of the land masses, but I'll deal with that when I get to it. :-)

I do enjoy being challenged again. Next up lox migration!
yeah wolves dont got jack for health and armor, they just have really strong damage output. nothing is more heart crushing than them aggroing on something beefy like a golem to which they dont stand a chance and they get crushed...
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§ilverfox replied to Boat rides with Wolves January 14, 2023 @ 8:53:38 pm PST

My story. The short of it is, I found that just breaking the boat is by far the simplest method to de-boat the wolves.

But for entertainment's sake, I will confess the following.

I typically don't tame wolves (or anything for that matter) because I've always found the process of baiting them into a pit or pen to be more PITA than it's worth. But this one time I was in a pit tracing out some silver, when suddenly I'm attacked from behind by two wolves. They had me pinned in my own self made pit. I was trapped, out of stamina, and quite dead in short order despite my armor.

When I returned to retrieve my things out of my tombstone, I found that the two wolves were themselves trapped in the pit. By this time in the game, I had had enough events at my main base by the trader (ground shaking, skeletons, foul smells, etc.) that I thought, "You know what...? I'm going to go ahead and tame and train these little bastards to breed me an army of wolves to do my bidding!"

With an evil cackle of glee, I throw some raw meat into the pit. Having never done this before, I didn't realize you had to hang around or else the taming process stops. After an embarrassingly long time, I finally figured out that I needed to just build a hut and sit in it for a few game days. I won't bore you with my own boredom and skip to the part where I finally peek out to check on them, and lo and behold, what do I find? Not only are the two wolves tamed, but they've got two wolf cubs with them in the pit! Although I must say here, that the time it took for them to finally tame is another good reason I never do this.

As cool as it was that there were dubs, this did throw a wrench into the plans, because this turn of events meant two more game days of sitting in my hut while the little tykes matured. Valheim wolf cubs, much like human children, don't follow directions too well and tend to just wander around on their own agenda. *sigh*

Before the cubs mature, however a drake pops up and kills one of my adults. Never even named him. So I named the last surviving adult "Solo Lobo". Seemed a fitting name for her. But now I'm wondering if the cubs will even mature with just one adult. I don't know how any of this works at this point.

One of the cubs actually went up the stairs (something I had read they don't do) to the open door of my hut. So I pushed her in and shut the door. Dusting my hands off as a job well done, I set about seeing if I could get the other cub in the house as well. Couldn't find the little bastard and now I'm wondering if he died or something while I was dealing with his litter mate. But no. I finally found him behind a rock off about as far from the encampment as could be and still be in the same biome.

Eventually they matured. I name the one in the hut "Pampers" and the the other one (after looking all over Odin's creation for him again) "Wanderer". Finally I collect Solo Lobo and her now grown cubs and start the trek to the boat. Before I realized I needed to hang around, I had gone down and built the planks over the boat to drop them in. This I had read about because you had better believe I wasn't going to tame these guys if I couldn't get them back to my main base. Thus a little internet research ensued. I accept any accusations of cheating anyone wishes to convey.

The distance to the ship wasn't very much, but a drake appeared just as we were exiting the mountains and... With a tear in my eye, I have to say that poor Pampers, who led a sheltered life, wasn't ready to deal with the outside world. She died a quick and painless death. I hope.

After killing the drake, and feeling miserable that I failed to protect one of my pets, Solo and Wanderer and I headed into the Black Forest where just a short ways away, the ship waited.

Getting them onto the ship was ridiculously uneventful. As was the boat ride back to the main base. Since I had to drop them into the boat, it seemed fairly natural to just... drop them out of the boat as well by breaking it. Except there was one problem with that. My seaport sits on the edge of a swamp and the Black Forest that the trader (and my main base) are in. This had been great because--Can you say "endless supply of blood bags"? But now those damn leeches were going to be a problem.

As we pulled into port, night fell. As if anything else could go wrong. Still... everything here should be easy. Right? I cleared the leeches and then broke the boat. Almost immediately I hear one of the wolves whine and the snarl of a fight about to go down.

"Crap." I thought. "I missed a leech." I had (and still have) no idea if a wolf can stand up to a leech's poison. And of course it's night time now and the stars are out, if you know what I mean.

But it turned out that it was just a draugr and a bow. The wolves made short work of him and I'm starting to pat myself on the back for my brilliant plan working out, when every damn thing under the sun came out to greet my wolves home. Skeletons, more Draugrs, Graydwarfs... I even saw a blob a ways away that I took out with my bow. After what seemed like an eternity of fighting and slaughter, my wolves and I looked around at a polluted mess of drops all over the damn place. I had to rescue Solo out of the water where she got stuck, but otherwise... Not bad!

So off up the path to my main base we go. Up the stone stairs, I open the darkwood doors, and "SCRATCH!" "Whine, whimper" and then another "SCRATCH!".

I turn around to see what the actual, and what do you think I find?

A Wraith. A Wraith on my doorstep killing my wolves. Deep in the Black Forest. Are you F@$ing KIDDING me?! It had to have followed up from the seaport, but... From there it really should have attacked sooner than that, yeah? Whatever. I will forever call BS on this game driven sneak attack.

Poor Solo died trying to fight some flying thing she'd never seen before and couldn't reach. Wanderer, panicked, trying desperately to attack this thing that just killed his mother before his very eyes. And me. Stunned at first, jaw agape IRL, then flying in to a furious rage, launched myself at the Wraith with my black metal knife and killed the foul, out of place thing in one blow.

Wanderer, with only a quarter of his health left, limped the rest of the way inside the castle. I picked up poor Solo's pelt off of the door step and closed the door. Turning around I look at Wanderer looking at me and throw him some deer meat. Suddenly I realize that I--someone who has always loathed the taming of animals in this silly game--knew without a doubt that I was going to go back and get Wanderer a mate. After all we had been through, I wasn't about to just turn this poor guy loose all alone on a forest that would eventually kill him.

But I don't know that I'll name any of the others though.

Anyway. I hope you all enjoyed my wolf's tail tale. May your adventures be great!
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Mozzy replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 1, 2021 @ 8:06:54 pm PST

FYI - also for what it is worth, breeding wolves and boars together in same pen seems to work, but they both follow the same distance rule, but with either species.

e.g. both sets will breed, but each seem to count the other as population in terms of stop breeding once too many in same pen. Had thought maybe wolves would only count wolves but if too many boars, then they stop breeding or vice versa.

ended up just making side by side pens with wolves in one, boars other, since there is no space savings by lumping both together.
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Faceplant8 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 3, 2021 @ 3:29:36 pm PDT

Got two wolves loaded onto a longboat and made it back to base with one of them. The other died from a sea monster. I'm not sure exactly how or why. It seemed like it hit him and drug him off the boat.

Also lost several pup. I thought the wolves were getting injured at first, then I realized that it was pups being born on a moving boat and (I assume) staying in place. I had a similar problem the first time I tried to push off the boat and realized that "stay" was relative to the land, not the boat!

I did learn another way to get the wolf off the boat. I saw a boar nearby where I landed and agroed him toward me and the wolf (on the boat near me). The wolf jumped off the boat and killed the boar along with a couple of pesky neaks.

I'll probably try another trip with a few more and hopefully get at least one more back.

Oh, this time I tamed a new pair of wolves on a much smaller mountain without drakes, and I also built a shack next to the boat and escorted the wolves one at a time, just in case. The mountain is next to plains, and I saw a couple of fulings, but they were not a problem.
11:13 pm, October 3, 2021
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Xilo The Odd replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 3, 2021 @ 3:37:18 pm PDT

Originally posted by Faceplant8:
Well. This is going to be harder than was advertised in the brochure!

I decided to take 4 wolves on the journey and leave two behind (just in case). I lead the four followers out the door, and they almost immediately get killed by drake.

I have to lead them across quite a bit of mountain and a bit of plains to get them to water. I already cleared the village in the plains, but drake are everywhere, so I either have to be quicker on the bow or breed some closer to my base/water.

Edit: Going down the other side of the mountain is much shorter and ends in meadows, so I think I'll try that. I just have to trudge the boat parts over the mountain to the other side of the continent, sail it around, or build a new one.

The sailing is also much longer due to the layout of the land masses, but I'll deal with that when I get to it. :-)

I do enjoy being challenged again. Next up lox migration!
yeah wolves dont got jack for health and armor, they just have really strong damage output. nothing is more heart crushing than them aggroing on something beefy like a golem to which they dont stand a chance and they get crushed...
11:13 pm, October 3, 2021
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Faceplant8 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 8:00:19 pm PDT

Holy #$%@. Took out the next batch. No problems until I reached the steep slope down to the boat. Of course, all I could do was slide down the slope. Got to the bottom and the wolves were nowhere to be seen. Found 6 drakes and a stone golem looking for them, but no remains, so I don't know what happened to them... RIP #2.
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Mozzy replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 9:26:09 pm PDT

I think I got really lucky finding wolves in snow area that had zero drake spawns. The regular wolves I got on starter island on very small mountain biome - so small no silver or obsidian but easy wolves.

Only 1 star wolf found was also in a small mountain with no drake spawns.
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Yakumo_2020 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 10:01:26 pm PDT

Originally posted by Flin Fredstone:
Beaching the boat on the shores in shallow water and then destroying the boat wouldn't be an option ?
it wasn't before H&H because hitting the boat would usually also hit some of the animals on it. Now destroying the boat should work fine since tamed animals don't take "friendly fire" damage, just always remember to do it shallow water so you don't lose the mats for the boat.
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Faceplant8 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 5:17:29 pm PDT

Well. This is going to be harder than was advertised in the brochure!

I decided to take 4 wolves on the journey and leave two behind (just in case). I lead the four followers out the door, and they almost immediately get killed by drake.

I have to lead them across quite a bit of mountain and a bit of plains to get them to water. I already cleared the village in the plains, but drake are everywhere, so I either have to be quicker on the bow or breed some closer to my base/water.

Edit: Going down the other side of the mountain is much shorter and ends in meadows, so I think I'll try that. I just have to trudge the boat parts over the mountain to the other side of the continent, sail it around, or build a new one.

The sailing is also much longer due to the layout of the land masses, but I'll deal with that when I get to it. :-)

I do enjoy being challenged again. Next up lox migration!
2:13 am, October 3, 2021
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Mozzy replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 8:31:26 am PDT

Originally posted by Bittamin:
After reading this I get the impression you haven't tried out the harpoon?

You can turn on PvP and physically drag the wolf with it over some pretty intense obstacles, easily the railing of a longboat. I literally just got my first 2 star wolf to an ocean base for the first time 5 minutes ago haha. I had it follow me, but also tethered by harpoon the whole trip because i didn't trust the little bastard to not commit suicide by deathsqito or something.

Also you can drive a boat while having a creature tethered being towed behind you at a very managable stamina cost. Great way to import boars since they don't seem to get in the boat too gud

Another good suggestion, thanks. Totally forgot harpoon even exists - hadn't been able to make one yet in any of my games since I restarted so many times.

Have not yet encountered the leviathan - island thing in ocean to get the barnacles yet. Hopefully one one randomly and try out the harpoon

Why do you have to turn on pvp though? Does it not work on tame creatures if pvp is off?
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Faceplant8 replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 1:52:52 pm PDT

Thanks for the ideas. I'm just about to try this.

I just got finished building my temporary wolf pen, taming a pair of wolves and started them breeding when I got hunted! I don't think I'm going to need to farm them for a while:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2617581795

35 wolves in a matter of a couple of minutes. Thank Odin I have good armor and the Bonemass ability!
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Pyro Penguin replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 2:50:33 pm PDT

Originally posted by Mozzy:
Why do you have to turn on pvp though? Does it not work on tame creatures if pvp is off?
since hearth and home you can't damage your tamed animals unless you enable pvp or use the new butcher knife
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Bittamin replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 2, 2021 @ 12:49:55 am PDT

After reading this I get the impression you haven't tried out the harpoon?

You can turn on PvP and physically drag the wolf with it over some pretty intense obstacles, easily the railing of a longboat. I literally just got my first 2 star wolf to an ocean base for the first time 5 minutes ago haha. I had it follow me, but also tethered by harpoon the whole trip because i didn't trust the little bastard to not commit suicide by deathsqito or something.

Also you can drive a boat while having a creature tethered being towed behind you at a very managable stamina cost. Great way to import boars since they don't seem to get in the boat too gud
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Flin Fredstone replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 1, 2021 @ 11:53:06 pm PDT

Hope it works for you. On a boat travel note; You only need to do a one way travel with a boat when it contains cargo. Saves many many empty boat sailing time.
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Mozzy replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 1, 2021 @ 11:39:54 pm PDT

oh! I totally did not even think of that.

Guess I could try taking a karve next time, longboat is lot easier to get wolf into and out of via the stairway build process but karve would take less whacks to destroy.

Will give that a shot next time need to ferry wolves.
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Mozzy replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 1, 2021 @ 8:06:54 pm PDT

FYI - also for what it is worth, breeding wolves and boars together in same pen seems to work, but they both follow the same distance rule, but with either species.

e.g. both sets will breed, but each seem to count the other as population in terms of stop breeding once too many in same pen. Had thought maybe wolves would only count wolves but if too many boars, then they stop breeding or vice versa.

ended up just making side by side pens with wolves in one, boars other, since there is no space savings by lumping both together.
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Flin Fredstone replied to Boat rides with Wolves October 1, 2021 @ 8:31:36 pm PDT

Beaching the boat on the shores in shallow water and then destroying the boat wouldnt be an option ?
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