Not sure if this was a bug or not...

Ever since they added iron grates to the game, I've been using them to make walls. Today I was building a new base with this technique, when a severe storm hit.

Imagine my surprise when the iron grates all started taking SEVERE damage from the rain. Stone and wood are mostly ok in the rain, but forged iron can be brought to half health by a vigorous rainstorm?

I did repairs until the storm stopped and happily I didn't lose any bars, but... I really hope this was a glitch of some sort. Iron bars that are most likely going to be used outside or as part of a wall of barrier shouldn't rust away in the time it takes a heavy rainstorm to pass. That's just silly. If anything, they should be tougher than stone, or at the very least just as resistant to weather as stone or wood is, if not moreso.
9:13 am, November 12, 2021
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Gargoyle Girl replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 16, 2021 @ 5:07:02 am PST

Originally posted by >< V ><:
You can use the two angled wood beams to protect things from rain damage, since these items appear to be classified as "roofs" so they don't take damage and will protect whatever is underneath it.

However, it doesn't work for the brazier or fires. Fire seems to go out from rain based upon whether it is classified as "sheltered" versus just covered by a roof piece.

Just an example of using the angled wood pieces. This structure suffers no rain damage and protects the non-roof pieces below it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2592205105

Oh, I know about how rain works and so on. I made these with careful experimentation to have stand alone outdoor fires.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2419154379

These work even during the heavy rainstorms, which tend to have rain that falls at an angle, capable of putting out fires that are otherwise protected by a roof. You can literally place these anywhere, and with a bit of experimentation, integrate this into the wall of a simple house, counting as both fire and light while venting the smoke outward in whichever direction you face the sloped roof panel. Can even make it taller for buildings with higher roofs, though this design doesn't work for more than single floor buildings.
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>< V >< replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 13, 2021 @ 5:44:05 pm PST

You can use the two angled wood beams to protect things from rain damage, since these items appear to be classified as "roofs" so they don't take damage and will protect whatever is underneath it.

However, it doesn't work for the brazier or fires. Fire seems to go out from rain based upon whether it is classified as "sheltered" versus just covered by a roof piece.

Just an example of using the angled wood pieces. This structure suffers no rain damage and protects the non-roof pieces below it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2592205105
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Gargoyle Girl replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 13, 2021 @ 8:12:13 am PST

Originally posted by hand_sanitizzzzer:
Originally posted by Gargoyle Girl:

Metal does rust in water. Metal does not instantly lose half it's durability in water during a rainstorm. Unless you're from someplace where you've seen a brand new car reduced to a rusty pile after it gets rained on once?
Maybe they should cut that decay in half. It's that... Metal takes a loooong time to decay in real life, so for gameplay purposes it makes more sense for it to decay faster. Still, you should try keeping your iron and wood structures sheltered.

What I've done is placed stone blocks on top of the bars. I put a 2x1 stone block, a large vertical set of bars, then balance another 2x1 stone block on top. It seems to eliminate the decay times, or at least greatly reduce them. I noticed when this happened that it only seemed to happen to *some* of the bars, which is why I thought maybe I was experiencing some kind of glitch. It also happened while I was in the process of setting the sections up, so I had the bars in place, but not the top layer of stone.
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hand_sanitizzzzer replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 5:51:33 pm PST

Originally posted by Gargoyle Girl:
Originally posted by hand_sanitizzzzer:
Metal rusts in the water.

Metal does rust in water. Metal does not instantly lose half it's durability in water during a rainstorm. Unless you're from someplace where you've seen a brand new car reduced to a rusty pile after it gets rained on once?
Maybe they should cut that decay in half. It's that... Metal takes a loooong time to decay in real life, so for gameplay purposes it makes more sense for it to decay faster. Still, you should try keeping your iron and wood structures sheltered.
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Gargoyle Girl replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 1:24:01 pm PST

Originally posted by hand_sanitizzzzer:
Metal rusts in the water.

Metal does rust in water. Metal does not instantly lose half it's durability in water during a rainstorm. Unless you're from someplace where you've seen a brand new car reduced to a rusty pile after it gets rained on once?
12:13 am, November 13, 2021
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Gargoyle Girl replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 1:27:11 pm PST

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:
Originally posted by Gargoyle Girl:
Would also like to see iron bars act more like... you know... thin bars with holes in between. Like allowing smoke to pass through, and allowing players to shoot through the bars.

They've stated this would be incredibly difficult to program into the game. I understand the disappointment but don't get your hopes up.

I'm not saying I know how to program it, but it seems like they would need to add some code to certain items that allows smoke particles or projectiles to pass through. I know that, for example, 7 Days to Die has bars you can craft that allow the player to then shoot through them, so I assumed it wasn't too hard to do, but as I said, I can't claim to be a expert on these things.
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Gargoyle Girl replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 1:28:25 pm PST

Originally posted by blankitosonic:
It calls decay damage , if anything than rock walls have not a roof above will take wather/decay damage
But looks like iron damage with rain its a realistic one haha

I'm not asking for zero damage, just... one rainstorm shouldn't bring anything to below 50% health. Maybe 10% per storm, max. Must have been an acid rainstorm though maybe?
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Mharr replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 1:30:23 pm PST

Originally posted by Gargoyle Girl:
I'm not saying I know how to program it, but it seems like they would need to add some code to certain items that allows smoke particles or projectiles to pass through.

I assume the problem there is they're using a third party physics engine that doesn't support the idea of an object having a hitbox for one entity while being immaterial to another. I can imagine a dozen ways to work around that but with a lot of potential for release day Skyrim grade bugs.
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blankitosonic replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 1:33:12 pm PST

Originally posted by Gargoyle Girl:
Originally posted by blankitosonic:
It calls decay damage , if anything than rock walls have not a roof above will take wather/decay damage
But looks like iron damage with rain its a realistic one haha

I'm not asking for zero damage, just... one rainstorm shouldn't bring anything to below 50% health. Maybe 10% per storm, max. Must have been an acid rainstorm though maybe?
that depends on the duration of it, not on the fact that it will have a fixed damage per storm/rain
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PlayerNumber03 replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 7:59:52 am PST

I'm sure it's just coded the same as wood - loses HP from rain, but will never go below 50%.
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blankitosonic replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 8:08:27 am PST

It calls decay damage , if anything than rock walls have not a roof above will take wather/decay damage
But looks like iron damage with rain its a realistic one haha
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hand_sanitizzzzer replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 8:16:14 am PST

Metal rusts in the water.
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Sentient Entropy replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 8:20:57 am PST

Originally posted by Gargoyle Girl:
Would also like to see iron bars act more like... you know... thin bars with holes in between. Like allowing smoke to pass through, and allowing players to shoot through the bars.

They've stated this would be incredibly difficult to program into the game. I understand the disappointment but don't get your hopes up.
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Gargoyle Girl replied to Not sure if this was a bug or not... November 12, 2021 @ 12:35:16 am PST

Would also like to see iron bars act more like... you know... thin bars with holes in between. Like allowing smoke to pass through, and allowing players to shoot through the bars.
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