Flying Butresses
Does anyone know if they work with regards to building our buildings?
11:13 pm, August 27, 2022
Ryzilynt replied to Flying Butresses August 27, 2022 @ 4:29:20 pm PDT
Does anyone know if they work with regards to building our buildings?
The structures are calculated by vertical connections.
The game counts how many pieces between your next piece, and the ground. So longer pieces work better, and adding more pieces actually can subtract from your building strength (if attached below the next piece)
This is true, I've solved roof integrity problems be evaluating the number of connections to my closest grounded (blue) piece. (when I did not yet have access to more advanced pieces like stone or wood/iron)
that said using a tree or an existing stone structure would absolutely work as a flying buttress as it would give you an elevated ground (blue) connection.
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Maelstrom replied to Flying Butresses August 27, 2022 @ 4:34:54 pm PDT
In a word, no. Valheim's building stability system is complex and you can read about it here:
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Building_Stability
Basically you can think of it as each building piece having a certain amount of 'weight' that must be dissipated into the ground and each intervening building piece absorbs some of that weight.
Simple, direct supports using the minimum number of pieces going straight down from the center of the supported piece work best. Obviously this isn't always possible - you need to consider how force 'flows' through your structure and build framing elements appropriately. You also need to consider that your structure will only be partially loaded if you are at a certain distance from it and ensure your highly-loaded framing elements (such as wood-iron joists supporting a large stone ceiling) will still function if grounded on only one side.
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Building_Stability
Basically you can think of it as each building piece having a certain amount of 'weight' that must be dissipated into the ground and each intervening building piece absorbs some of that weight.
Simple, direct supports using the minimum number of pieces going straight down from the center of the supported piece work best. Obviously this isn't always possible - you need to consider how force 'flows' through your structure and build framing elements appropriately. You also need to consider that your structure will only be partially loaded if you are at a certain distance from it and ensure your highly-loaded framing elements (such as wood-iron joists supporting a large stone ceiling) will still function if grounded on only one side.
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Alji replied to Flying Butresses August 27, 2022 @ 3:18:14 pm PDT
You can construct them for cosmetic purposes, but they would not serve the architectural purpose that they do in real life. The building stability system does not evaluate forces.
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PakaNoHida replied to Flying Butresses August 27, 2022 @ 3:21:20 pm PDT
You can construct them for cosmetic purposes, but they would not serve the architectural purpose that they do in real life. The building stability system does not evaluate forces.
Yeah I had a feeling, I was just hoping... hoping.
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Cap'n Bells replied to Flying Butresses August 27, 2022 @ 3:58:47 pm PDT
i too tried every conceivable triangulation and reinforcing of a HUGE pesky roof... only wood iron helped, and earthen foundation raisingYou can construct them for cosmetic purposes, but they would not serve the architectural purpose that they do in real life. The building stability system does not evaluate forces.
Yeah I had a feeling, I was just hoping... hoping.
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Nobbler replied to Flying Butresses August 27, 2022 @ 4:09:38 pm PDT
Does anyone know if they work with regards to building our buildings?
The structures are calculated by vertical connections.
The game counts how many pieces between your next piece, and the ground. So longer pieces work better, and adding more pieces actually can subtract from your building strength (if attached below the next piece)
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