They could go back and add new things to lower biomes, but that will be referred to as "no new content" by the people who will soon be chanting ASHLANDS! ASHLANDS! ASHLANDS!

Its because magic needs resources that only are available for mistlands and i see it hard to add early : new workstation , 2-3 new foods for each biome for the new"mana" bar , all new magic resources that most be grind in mistlands and i see no place in lower biomes ...

Putting endgame gear to the start? What would be the point of that? Killing everything with one hit at the beginning?

Why have progression and exploration in a game of exploration and progression? Ooh a tough one to ponder.

Portals. A player may use portals to traverse long distances before learning how to smelt or forge any metal, even before killing the second Forsaken boss. Neither any real-life Vikings nor their descendants can access or use portals. Seems to me like portals must operate through magic.

Players have access to and can use magic early in the game.

Endgame? This isn't even finished game

im hoping for a "balance" pass after ashlands, where they add magic and other new things to earlier areas etc.

The advancement system is the weakest part of this game tbh I wish it was less linear.

Originally posted by LastChime:

Endgame? This isn't even finished game

mistlands is the start of valheims end game. theres only 2 more bioms left to add to the game.

devcommands + debugmode
simply spawn in or craft everything you want.

my magic is fire stick torch and its fun to

Well, early game is more of you trying to survive the elements, not to master them, imo.
Also, the use of portals and the special meads you make is basically magic early on.
Lastly, Mistlands is not end-game at all, i would say it is at the end of mid-game. There are still 3 more biomes to be fleshed out (Ashlands, DeepNorth & Ocean) which will define end-game.
I wouldn't mind if more things get added later, but this game wasn't meant to be played as a mage from start, enemies at lower stages don't need all that magic to be dealt with. It makes sense we start geting mage education as we are getting closer to the end to face the worst things that are coming...

There's nothing to fight in the unmodded game prior to mistlands that magic will be balanced for. Every tier is pretty much trivialized the moment you get the first couple of pieces of gear crafted in it. Magic is a step up from what is already there. This game would need redesigning from the ground up to put it in the low game correctly.

Originally posted by Baklavah:

And what happens if they hate it or feel like it's not worth all that effort?

Some will hate it and most will find it isn't worth the effort.

Meh. Magic is just another tier of gear. I changed playstyle when I got a sword and a good shield, and then I changed playstyle again when I got a killer bow.

This game is a linear one; complete content of biome, kill boss, get new stuff, use that stuff to complete next biome, kill the boss after that, etc. That's the loop. Magic is just like iron was, or bronze. We didn't go back and get iron things added to the Meadows, because that's just not this game.

Well, early game is more of you trying to survive the elements, not to master them, imo.
Also, the use of portals and the special meads you make is basically magic early on.
Lastly, Mistlands is not end-game at all, i would say it is at the end of mid-game. There are still 3 more biomes to be fleshed out (Ashlands, DeepNorth & Ocean) which will define end-game.
I wouldn't mind if more things get added later, but this game wasn't meant to be played as a mage from start, enemies at lower stages don't need all that magic to be dealt with. It makes sense we start geting mage education as we are getting closer to the end to face the worst things that are coming...

There's nothing to fight in the unmodded game prior to mistlands that magic will be balanced for. Every tier is pretty much trivialized the moment you get the first couple of pieces of gear crafted in it. Magic is a step up from what is already there. This game would need redesigning from the ground up to put it in the low game correctly.

Originally posted by Baklavah:

And what happens if they hate it or feel like it's not worth all that effort?

Some will hate it and most will find it isn't worth the effort.

Meh. Magic is just another tier of gear. I changed playstyle when I got a sword and a good shield, and then I changed playstyle again when I got a killer bow.

This game is a linear one; complete content of biome, kill boss, get new stuff, use that stuff to complete next biome, kill the boss after that, etc. That's the loop. Magic is just like iron was, or bronze. We didn't go back and get iron things added to the Meadows, because that's just not this game.

Portals. A player may use portals to traverse long distances before learning how to smelt or forge any metal, even before killing the second Forsaken boss. Neither any real-life Vikings nor their descendants can access or use portals. Seems to me like portals must operate through magic.

Players have access to and can use magic early in the game.

Endgame? This isn't even finished game

im hoping for a "balance" pass after ashlands, where they add magic and other new things to earlier areas etc.

The advancement system is the weakest part of this game tbh I wish it was less linear.

Originally posted by LastChime:

Endgame? This isn't even finished game

mistlands is the start of valheims end game. theres only 2 more bioms left to add to the game.

Originally posted by fiese Fee™:

Putting endgame gear to the start? What would be the point of that? Killing everything with one hit at the beginning?

Apparently, I had to stop and give you a lesson in reading comprehension. Nowhere did I say any of that. I said "LESSER VERSIONS" aka "early game versions" aka "learn to read".

devcommands + debugmode
simply spawn in or craft everything you want.

Originally posted by Philthy:

devcommands + debugmode
simply spawn in everything you want

Defeats the purpose of what I've stated. Had to stop and give a SECOND person a lesson in "reading comprehension".

Do I hear three?

Originally posted by Baklavah:

Originally posted by Philthy:

devcommands + debugmode
simply spawn in everything you want

Defeats the purpose of what I've stated. Had to stop and give a SECOND person a lesson in "reading comprehension".

Do I hear three?

lol. you dont want help. you just want drama. waste of time.

Originally posted by Philthy:

Originally posted by Baklavah:

Defeats the purpose of what I've stated. Had to stop and give a SECOND person a lesson in "reading comprehension".

Do I hear three?

lol. you dont want help. you just want drama. waste of time.

Just because you didn't bother to understand or TRY to understand, doesn't mean it has anything to do with drama.

It's a valid question. Move along please.

my magic is fire stick torch and its fun to

They could go back and add new things to lower biomes, but that will be referred to as "no new content" by the people who will soon be chanting ASHLANDS! ASHLANDS! ASHLANDS!

Its because magic needs resources that only are available for mistlands and i see it hard to add early : new workstation , 2-3 new foods for each biome for the new"mana" bar , all new magic resources that most be grind in mistlands and i see no place in lower biomes ...

Putting endgame gear to the start? What would be the point of that? Killing everything with one hit at the beginning?

Why have progression and exploration in a game of exploration and progression? Ooh a tough one to ponder.