Mistlands is like a vacuum cleaner attachment that was delivered later, has a cool design and you desperately want to use, but you realize with every use that it frustrates you more than it brings you joy and it's not worth putting the attachment on for that one corner in the apartment where the part could finally show its strength when it's otherwise inferior to the main device.

Now the manufacturer is tuning the attachment and the main unit in favor of it - to the delight of some and the frustration of others, because everyone has now integrated the attachment into their individual handling somehow, despite extreme incompatibility with the main unit, but no one seems interested in the actual strengths, weaknesses and problems of the main unit anymore.

Then you go to a community forum and point out these really important things, because you liked the original idea of the product so much, but you find that everyone there (including the manufacturer itself) has already forgotten that people generally didn't want to buy an attachment, not even a vacuum cleaner, but a clean apartment.

End of story.

Originally posted by Gisbert:

Mistlands is like a vacuum cleaner attachment that was delivered later, has a cool design and you desperately want to use, but you realize with every use that it frustrates you more than it brings you joy and it's not worth putting the attachment on for that one corner in the apartment where the part could finally show its strength when it's otherwise inferior to the main device.

Now the manufacturer is tuning the attachment and the main unit in favor of it - to the delight of some and the frustration of others, because everyone has now integrated the attachment into their individual handling somehow, despite extreme incompatibility with the main unit, but no one seems interested in the actual strengths, weaknesses and problems of the main unit anymore.

Then you go to a community forum - for the first time in your life - actually pointing out these really important things because you liked the original idea of the product so much, but you find that everyone there has already forgotten that they originally didn't want to buy an attachment, not even a vacuum cleaner, but actually a clean apartment.

End of story.

Moral of this story is to buy a new apartment when your old one gets dirty.

dudes just sour they let you do what the drake, skeletal pile and fuling shaman could always do. He doesnt seem to understand the game he bought as it keeps changing and always will. He clings on some idealistic version of the game that was never even real.

there was NEVER any magic in valheim! lol. Now let me just hang this head here and steal its (anything but magical) power....

Originally posted by Letozeth:

Moral of this story is to buy a new apartment when your old one gets dirty.

No, the moral of this story is after initial success, sales and marketing concepts take over a company and the product concepts eventually make their way out.

As a result over time, you then have a whole new audience of customers who bought because of sales and marketing, not because of the product benefits of the original vision behind it.

As a trade the origin customers either all jump off or come to terms with the majority, depending on how important principles are to them.

Originally posted by Webbman:

He clings on some idealistic version of the game that was never even real.

Causality principle of cause and effect - btw. a law of nature. Nothing happens without a cause, even the production of a videogame which needs to be based on an idea and a framework of it which themselves must be based on principles, otherwise the whole game would be pure arbitrariness.

As soon as you have principles, you have a vision shaped by what is objectively real, i.e. idealistic.

A bit of deductive thinking - subtract unimportant details and you would also be able to read the handwriting of the developer and even if someone else suddenly takes the fountain pen in hand. Irrelevant for whatever reason.

It's obvious that the new parts don't fit on the base frame of the game. But you are welcome to doubt further the principles of causality.

Originally posted by Gisbert:

Originally posted by Letozeth:

Moral of this story is to buy a new apartment when your old one gets dirty.

No, the moral of this story is after initial success, sales and marketing concepts take over a company and the product concepts eventually make their way out.

As a result over time, you then have a whole new audience of customers who bought because of sales and marketing, not because of the product benefits of the original vision behind it.

As a trade the origin customers either all jump off or come to terms with the majority, depending on how important principles are to them.

Originally posted by Webbman:

He clings on some idealistic version of the game that was never even real.

Causality principle of cause and effect - btw. a law of nature. Nothing happens without a cause, even the production of a videogame which needs to be based on an idea and a framework of it which themselves must be based on principles, otherwise the whole game would be pure arbitrariness.

As soon as you have principles, you have a vision shaped by what is objectively real, i.e. idealistic.

A bit of deductive thinking - subtract unimportant details and you would also be able to read the handwriting of the developer and even if someone else suddenly takes the fountain pen in hand. Irrelevant for whatever reason.

It's obvious that the new parts don't fit on the base frame of the game. But you are welcome to doubt further the principles of causality.

I agree 100% Mistlands does feel like a Valheim clone rather than Valheim.

Had me in the first half OP ngl