lost spear

after several close calls i finally lost a spear after around 180 hours play time.

i had previously noticed at times, when hunting deer in the blackforest, that the spear can clip through rock formations. keep in mind that "rock" is not really part of the terrain, it is cut and pasted on top of the real terrain. rock is an object, like a tree, or wall. when the spear clips through the rock, it sometimes falls down to the terrain, or it gets displaced and comes out the side of the rock. most of the time it just lands on the rock when thrown, but occasionally the aforementioned takes place.

well, i have entered mountain biome and have been one-shotting drakes with the thrown fang spear once i had enough silver and fangs. very effective way to deal with drakes without wasting arrows. i hit a drake on a downhill shot and the spear fell through a rock, and i lost track of it. did it disappear? did it clip through the rock and roll down a cliff? did it despawn in the hour i spend looking for it? not sure, but be careful throwing the spear. i would be fine losing a spear if i missed and threw it off a cliff by mistake, but to make the hit and then have the spear basically get lost was pretty frustrating.

spear has been my main melee weapon throughout the game; i really enjoy the dual function of melee and ranged, and the short throw has often been an answer to the problems targeting enemies at different elevations in this game. i had around 75-80 skill level at the time i lost it, then died a couple times while looking for it since i was not resting, afraid to leave the area. i tried building campfires and workbenches all over to prevent despawning but i honestly dont know if it just disappeared and could not have been found. I smashed up the entire mountainside of rock formations looking for it, until it was basically bare earth with no rocks, but couldnt find it.

would be nice if there was some kind of recovery feature, maybe something that would fully drain stamina for x seconds to prevent combat abuse but would call the spear back to you. i can make another spear but the damage to my confidence in using the spear the way i want to has been affected by this.
8:13 pm, September 24, 2022
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PakaNoHida replied to lost spear September 24, 2022 @ 1:56:20 pm PDT

Originally posted by bacon:
Originally posted by BobthenotsoGreat:
I always liked the idea of the spear but saw the problems and didn't want to deal with the inevitable loss. In your case it;s like losing a trusted friend I guess.

Also in MP isn't everyone else going to just suck it into their inventory? It needs work I think.

that is a problem too, other people running over your spear and picking it up.


Is it? That used to be part of the *ahem* point of throwing spears.
2:13 am, September 25, 2022
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PakaNoHida replied to lost spear September 24, 2022 @ 1:57:31 pm PDT

Originally posted by Maskull:
I think the issue is more extensive. I've been playing a character with spear as primary weapon, and have now lost 4 spears going through all current content. For me, the spear vanishes upon making a killing blow as a thrown shot, especially against LOX or trolls. I usually run up inside the dying beast to auto pickup any treasure, and to enjoy the view of the inside of the creature model. That usually recovers the spear as well. Maybe once in 50 kills the spear will have vanished. Just happened a few minutes ago, which is why I'm checking the chat.


Everything you wrote should be in the "bugs" subforum about spears IMO.
2:13 am, September 25, 2022
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bacon replied to lost spear September 24, 2022 @ 2:05:35 pm PDT

Originally posted by PakaNoHida:
Originally posted by bacon:

that is a problem too, other people running over your spear and picking it up.


Is it? That used to be part of the *ahem* point of throwing spears.

in co op multiplayer sometimes teammate runs over spear without realizing it. you search the ground, meanwhile, he has it in backpack. kind of awkward to keep asking "did you pick up my weapon" every time you go 2 seconds without finding it.
2:13 am, September 25, 2022
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knighttemplar1960 replied to lost spear September 24, 2022 @ 3:18:37 pm PDT

I've always avoided the issue by using a crude bow for range and the spear only for melee. Flint spears are cheap and easy to replace.
2:13 am, September 25, 2022
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BobthenotsoGreat replied to lost spear March 1, 2021 @ 5:33:50 pm PDT

I always liked the idea of the spear but saw the problems and didn't want to deal with the inevitable loss. In your case it;s like losing a trusted friend I guess.

Also in MP isn't everyone else going to just suck it into their inventory? It needs work I think.
8:13 pm, September 24, 2022
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Grandaddypurple replied to lost spear March 1, 2021 @ 5:40:45 pm PDT

Man I've been using the spear a lot as well, I almost never threw it for that very reason. I think it needs to be considered.
Maybe making the spear a cheaper and weaker weapon when used as melee, but stackable and very powerful when thrown? Just writing this as the idea came through my mind but I have no idea how balanced and viable this is
8:13 pm, September 24, 2022
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bacon replied to lost spear March 1, 2021 @ 5:44:44 pm PDT

Originally posted by BobthenotsoGreat:
I always liked the idea of the spear but saw the problems and didn't want to deal with the inevitable loss. In your case it;s like losing a trusted friend I guess.

Also in MP isn't everyone else going to just suck it into their inventory? It needs work I think.

that is a problem too, other people running over your spear and picking it up.
8:13 pm, September 24, 2022
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Voliminal replied to lost spear March 1, 2021 @ 5:47:53 pm PDT

Use the spawn command to make up for bugs.
I don't consider it cheating.
We once had the bug where you get 1 of each material after you deconstruct something and the spawn command saved us.
8:13 pm, September 24, 2022
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bacon replied to lost spear March 1, 2021 @ 5:48:50 pm PDT

Originally posted by Grandaddypurple:
Man I've been using the spear a lot as well, I almost never threw it for that very reason. I think it needs to be considered.
Maybe making the spear a cheaper and weaker weapon when used as melee, but stackable and very powerful when thrown? Just writing this as the idea came through my mind but I have no idea how balanced and viable this is

i would rather see the devs just fix the clipping of the spear through objects but what you propose would also be interesting, to rebalance the weapon and lean more into the throwing function.

also they could change the particle indicators for ground objects to bright red if it is an "equipment" object. the spear gets lost on the ground in a sea of resin, stone, and other BS, since everything puts out white particles.

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Maskull replied to lost spear September 24, 2022 @ 12:32:45 pm PDT

I think the issue is more extensive. I've been playing a character with spear as primary weapon, and have now lost 4 spears going through all current content. For me, the spear vanishes upon making a killing blow as a thrown shot, especially against LOX or trolls. I usually run up inside the dying beast to auto pickup any treasure, and to enjoy the view of the inside of the creature model. That usually recovers the spear as well. Maybe once in 50 kills the spear will have vanished. Just happened a few minutes ago, which is why I'm checking the chat.
8:13 pm, September 24, 2022
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Fzanco replied to lost spear September 24, 2022 @ 12:47:25 pm PDT

Agreed it would be nice if something could be implemented to help spear retreival be not be so bad. Maybe like the red dots you get for enemies on the map during raids, maybe a similar style different coloured dot could be applied for a thrown weapon and it fades away after 10 seconds
8:13 pm, September 24, 2022
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