While the OP does come across as entitled, he does a few valid points. However, I totally disagree with his assessment with portals. I think the reason IG doesn't want ore and ingots moved through portals is because it forces the player to make multiple hub bases.

It's almost like the dev's need to just come out with it and say "ok we're gonna make the game easier than Dark Souls, but harder than Minecraft. Also Early Access just gives us leverage to change the difficulty, and drastically; without consequence. But once the game releases y'all have to stop whining about the game being too unfair".

Do you think Valheim will be "perfect" when it's released? I want this game to be challenging, but everybody has their own ideas. Can't please everyone.

Originally posted by loppantorkel:

Originally posted by Anarchist Jurisdictor:

Believe me OP, every argument has been made about the ore portal restriction and I assure you the devs do not care.

In what position are you to assure anyone "the devs do not care"? Do you believe they haven't considered portal alternatives and, as for now, think this is best in line with their vision of the game and what makes for a greater game?

Well I would answer your question properly but I'm pretty sure discussions about ore portal restrictions are pretty much quasi-banned right now on the forums given the multi-thousand-post thread that was merged and locked and unlocked and hidden and unhidden over and over. But to dance around it, I guess, no, I don't believe that they haven't considered alternatives, just that the restriction won't change and nothing will convince them.

I thought the thread name was something about "feedback on the home you made", but I completely misread it. You got my hopes up.

Originally posted by Lucidess:

I thought the thread name was something about "feedback on the home you made", but I completely misread it. You got my hopes up.

It was a lovely home.

@Arachnovia
>>Yes - that's exactly what it's silly, unnecessary and meaningless. That's why I criticized it because it is not needed in the game.<<

as long as some players (me for example) see the use in this feature it's not entirely useless.
you don't have to eat bupeperries. at all. and they don't harm you by existing. so it's a silly complain.

>>1 - There are also events in the game where trolls attack the players' bases.<<

and they go to you. meaning you can go outside and lure them away. you don't have to fight near your homebase.

>>And then the new endurance system, how can I derail the whole thing in such a way that the player no longer has armor protection when stamina decreases? I have the maximum iron armor and am slaughtered every time I run out of stamina due to the consumption of food because the armor doesn't protect me at all.

And because it is so beautiful, not even the minimum life of the player of 25 life points is regenerated. To flee from monsters is completely pointless because without endurance and life regeneration you are dead anyway.<<

i was running with iron armor and greataxe (-30%reduction to speed iirc) from invasion. and my armor saved me countless times while i was waiting for mead cd to drink another bottle.
so i'd say you can just get used to a new system. it's not hard to manage your hp and stamina. (insert gutgud joke if you want here).
also... nothing prevent you from running to your corpse with a spare armor (lower tier you wore before) or with a friend(if you play in mp)

@ Potato Cat - What do mods have to do with this?
The purpose is to show the developers where problems exist or arise. Using mods is not very helpful.

@ Buck Fiden - You all misunderstood about the gates. the explanation that by preventing metals and ores from being taken through the gates more bases can be built is simply nonsense, that has no real impact.
Whether I use ships or gates or wagons or all three makes no difference. But it is one of the logical mistakes in the game that if metals cannot be transported through the gates, then this should apply to everything made of metal and not just to metal bars and ores.
Then I would either have to use the ship or travel through the gates with leather armor and stone tools and then build everything up again.
But the whole thing was not to be understood as a requirement to either let ores and metalbars through the gates, or to not let all equipment and armor made of metal through the gates.
It is only intended to show that you are justifying arbitrarily to maintain what you are currently using. Basically, it doesn't matter how you regulate that with the metals.

@ Interloper-69 - Apparently you have only little dealt with the game and the effects of the change.
1 - There are also events in the game where trolls attack the players' bases.
2 - How do you come up with the idea of ​​what which player is walking around with, or which food players use to call them stupid?
I restarted Valheim after the patch and before the patch in order to be able to compare all changes and their effects directly - you too?

@ Lecherous Lychee - What does it matter if the game is Early Access or not?

"DISAGREE: I had never had to use Bukeberries during combat. That's just silly."

Yes - that's exactly what it's silly, unnecessary and meaningless. That's why I criticized it because it is not needed in the game.

"DISAGREE: You can say the same thing about killing in general. Why doesn't IronGate just take killing out all together?

We're talking about a fictional world set thousands of years in the past. A LOT of things didn't exist back then that it does today like Covid-19, HIV, human-induced climate change, giant gas binging trucks, etc, etc, etc, etc.

You're trying to create problems in a game, where none exist. It's almost like you're passive-aggressively trying to very indirectly tell the developers they're being blackmailed, and if they don't change their ways to suit your personal rhetoric, you're going to stomp your feet, scream rape and bloody murder, until they relent. Terrible. ;)"

Um yes - if you don't have any arguments, you can go back to something like that - it shows that you have not understood the meaning of my statement.

"DISAGREE: I, and many others like the new H&H system. I even made a short 6-ish minute Youtube review on it. I believe some people call it "get gud"? ;)"

Did I write somewhere that I would reject H&H?
No - I only mentioned problems that arise - that is completely different from rejection.

I will ignore the rest of your contribution because it completely ignores reality.

Believe me OP, every argument has been made about the ore portal restriction and I assure you the devs do not care.

I didn't want to achieve something about it, I just wanted to point out this nonsense. I myself use the longship. For example, whether I drag 18 stacks of 30 irons each individually through the portal or bring the 18 stacks with the longship from a to b does not matter to me personally.

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

What does it matter if the game is Early Access or not?

Because of 'context', it matters. You're complaining about game mechanics that in time may or may not be implemented. Have you checked the Suggestions category? You should. Many of your complaints have been posted in the past by others already.

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

"DISAGREE: I had never had to use Bukeberries during combat. That's just silly."

Yes - that's exactly what it's silly, unnecessary and meaningless. That's why I criticized it because it is not needed in the game.

Based on what you said here, it wasn't clear whether you were speaking hyperbole or a personal experience. Eg: "A berry is introduced that enables me to change the food in my stomach, as if in a fight I really had the opportunity to vomit in peace, eat new food and then continue fighting. by the time I was done with it I died ten times."

So in the sense of hyperbole, perhaps it's something we agree on.

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

You're trying to create problems in a game, where none exist..."

Um yes - if you don't have any arguments, you can go back to something like that - it shows that you have not understood the meaning of my statement.

No, it clearly seems you're trying to stir ♥♥♥♥ up, because you're not getting your way. ;)

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

I will ignore the rest of your contribution because it completely ignores reality.

It's ironic you try defending your 'reality' while dismissing analogies that prove your way of thinking is, how shall we say? Shallow. ;)

Alas, I must accept there exist people like you who perhaps complain about how the sun shines too bright, when you refuse to wear sunglasses, or how the rain is wet when you refuse to take an umbrella with you.

To the moderators: I did pretty well wouldn't you agree? ♥

For me H&H was a reason to play another 200h. Great update, so many small changes and things they made, great!, And i like how the developer go step by step and always add some "secrets". :)

Originally posted by Anarchist Jurisdictor:

Believe me OP, every argument has been made about the ore portal restriction and I assure you the devs do not care.

In what position are you to assure anyone "the devs do not care"? Do you believe they haven't considered portal alternatives and, as for now, think this is best in line with their vision of the game and what makes for a greater game?

Mad because bad, it would seem.

While the OP does come across as entitled, he does a few valid points. However, I totally disagree with his assessment with portals. I think the reason IG doesn't want ore and ingots moved through portals is because it forces the player to make multiple hub bases.

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

I am sorry to have to say that now - but how can it be that I as a player can only drown in the water, cannot use weapons, but enemies can use weapons in the water and do not drown!
How can it be that trolls can run over pallisade high cliffs?
How can trolling do as much damage to stone walls as it does to wooden palisades? How can it be that stone walls are destroyed by trolls just as quickly as wooden palisades?

Overall, there is a lot going on in Valheim, many logic errors appear and the new food system is stealthily rubbish. A berry is introduced that enables me to change the food in my stomach, as if in a fight I really had the opportunity to vomit in peace, eat new food and then continue fighting. by the time I was done with it I died ten times.
Especially since the whole thing is a feast for all anorexia and bullemia sufferers, now they can follow their obsessive-compulsive illness in the game. Irongate should be ashamed of it.

And then the new endurance system, how can I derail the whole thing in such a way that the player no longer has armor protection when stamina decreases? I have the maximum iron armor and am slaughtered every time I run out of stamina due to the consumption of food because the armor doesn't protect me at all.

And because it is so beautiful, not even the minimum life of the player of 25 life points is regenerated. To flee from monsters is completely pointless because without endurance and life regeneration you are dead anyway.

The dragur with 2 stars does up to 36 points of damage to me despite blocking and with maximum iron armor, even with 140 lives (should act like a tank - which it doesn't) it takes 4 to 5 hits and I'm dead. At the same time, blocking takes so much stamina that I can no longer defend myself.

If I die in a crypt or a grave for the reasons mentioned, then it is no longer possible to get to your things unless you use the devcommands. In the meantime I spend almost more time in devcommands mode than in the normal single player game because the whole new system is sometimes completely out of hand.

In my seed, I had to search for crypts in the swamps for days and couldn't find a single crypt in the largest swamp areas. Here, too, I had to use the devcommands again to be able to continue playing.

And last but not least, the skills deduction system, through the search for the crypts and the rowing stamina / armor / blocking system, I fell within vunden with the highest skill values ​​from +40 to below 30 in places, because of all things the best scores those who take the longest to achieve will be punished the hardest.

Do you really think your game will be so fun in the long run?

The player should at least get his weapons and armor back after death in order to be able to continue playing stress-free.

And as if all of this wasn't bad enough, there are also the teleporter gates which do not allow a player to take metal bars and ores through the gate. But with metal weapons and metal armor and with metal equipment, so I can go through the gate that goes.
Either I can't take anything made of metal with me and have to bring it there with a ship, or I can take everything made of metal, everything else is illogical and arbitrary.
And your argument that the player has to build more and have to explore more limps, because the player has to do that one way or another.
Even if other bases turn out to be smaller, this justification is flimsy and hypocritical and incoherent.

Go and install mods, they will have everything you are looking for.

I have seen one mod that adds combat to water.

If you need to fight enemies in water you are doing it wrong. If you pull troll to your house you are doing it wrong. Trolls are easy. with bow and some arrow they die. They also lack any sense of proper path finding so it's easy to pin them between trees and rocks and just shoot them with bow.
Stamina and food is core feature of the game. You need to make sure you eat the best food available if venturing outside your home. Running in swamp, mountains or plains with boar meat, honey and berries is just stupid and a death wish. Also not having rested is stupid. Always have rested. You can get 8 minutes in open sky with just a campfire.
For me it seems that H&H is actually easier than original release. Wolfs are easy. Goblins are simply so stupid now that even 2 star ones are easy kills.
Blocking is fine. You have to choose between block and parry. If you don't like to parry, use tower shield. If you know how to parry, use any thing other than tower shield. You can parry pretty much everything including stone golems, trolls and fuling berserkers.
Parry gives you opening for 3 crit hit combo.
People like to find problems where there are none. Whining just because whining is so easy.

Firstly, the game is in Early Access. The major updates are milestones for the devs to implement their original road map and subsequently, the minor patches thereafter are player-based suggestions that counter and agree with those major updates. It's not possible to implement every nook and cranny (is that how the spelling goes?) in every major update and appease everyone.

For example, I agreed with H&H, while a lot of others didn't. So in that sense, who should the devs agree with? The people that whine that the game has turned into a cooking/farming simulator, or the people that like the H&H updates?

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

I am sorry to have to say that now - but how can it be that I as a player can only drown in the water, cannot use weapons, but enemies can use weapons in the water and do not drown!

AGREED: Of course, I don't like everything the game has to offer. I agree about this. I made a point somewhere that players should be able to regenerate stamina if they aren't moving while floating in water. As for attacking hostiles with your weapons, monsters cannot attack you with weapons. They attack you with fists and stones. Players can attack in water with fists, but perhaps players should also be able to throw stones?

Basically, I agree that monsters shouldn't have that handicap over the player.

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

How can it be that trolls can run over pallisade high cliffs? How can trolling do as much damage to stone walls as it does to wooden palisades? How can it be that stone walls are destroyed by trolls just as quickly as wooden palisades?

AGREED: This also bothered me. Dwarves smacked my stone block about a dozen times with their fists and it broke. Has anyone ever tried punching concrete foundations or even castle foundations? I doubt even the strongest person in the world can knock down the stone foundations of a castle with their bare hands.

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

Overall, there is a lot going on in Valheim, many logic errors appear and the new food system is stealthily rubbish. A berry is introduced that enables me to change the food in my stomach, as if in a fight I really had the opportunity to vomit in peace, eat new food and then continue fighting. by the time I was done with it I died ten times.

DISAGREE: I had never had to use Bukeberries during combat. That's just silly. I always go on my adventures with a clear idea what I want to do. If I am to scour the forest for trolls to hunt, I eat two stamina-focus and one-health focus food to fight the horde of dwarves and trolls that spawn. Rarely had a problem with this. Only time I had a problem with this was I tried walking across water when the waves came in.

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

Especially since the whole thing is a feast for all anorexia and bullemia sufferers, now they can follow their obsessive-compulsive illness in the game. Irongate should be ashamed of it.

DISAGREE: You can say the same thing about killing in general. Why doesn't IronGate just take killing out all together?

We're talking about a fictional world set thousands of years in the past. A LOT of things didn't exist back then that it does today like Covid-19, HIV, human-induced climate change, giant gas binging trucks, etc, etc, etc, etc.

You're trying to create problems in a game, where none exist. It's almost like you're passive-aggressively trying to very indirectly tell the developers they're being blackmailed, and if they don't change their ways to suit your personal rhetoric, you're going to stomp your feet, scream rape and bloody murder, until they relent. Terrible. ;)

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

And then the new endurance system, how can I derail the whole thing in such a way that the player no longer has armor protection when stamina decreases? I have the maximum iron armor and am slaughtered every time I run out of stamina due to the consumption of food because the armor doesn't protect me at all.

DISAGREE: I, and many others like the new H&H system. I even made a short 6-ish minute Youtube review on it. I believe some people call it "get gud"? ;)

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

Do you really think your game will be so fun in the long run?

DISAGREE: There is this notion that something someone buys should last forever. Even my pair of 1992 Air Jordans didn't last past ten years, and they were about $140 Cdn at the time, 5.6 times that of what I bought Valheim for.

I would say if someone has clocked well over 200-300 hours for a $25 game, the game has done its job. Someone else who hated IronGate because the game didn't go their way, stomped their feet and yelled, paraphrased, "I PAY THE DEVELOPERS..." - yes, like the rest of us who paid them as well that didn't whine or cry or hate. I mean $25 divided by 200 is 12.5 cents per hour. I can't even buy a ketchup cup with that.

Originally posted by Arachnovia:

Even if other bases turn out to be smaller, this justification is flimsy and hypocritical and incoherent.

DISAGREE: There is this argument that is going around Facebook where a lot of people hate Star Trek Discovery and the new Star Wars' films. Their argument is that they're not Star Trek and Star Wars. However, if the creators made it as such, then it doesn't matter what fans that hate it say. If a creator for the new movies said one day, "We're adding Telly Tubbies into the latest gen starships" then Telly Tubbies become a part of the Star Trek universe. You have the right to not like it, but you don't have the right to say it shouldn't be done, because it's not up to you to decide that. It's up to the owners and the creators to decide that.

I may disagree with a lot of what IronGate has done, but ultimately, IT IS THEIR GAME. I am but a volunteer to their whims.