Originally posted by Azoun:

It would be nice if Irongate could hire some of these talented modders to speed up development in the base game.

That's not really going to work, or there's no past indication of such. Look at BGS's Creation Club – it's mostly just glorified microtransactions, and almost nothing available on there is anything that cannot be recreated with free mods... almost.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/new-premium-75811285

Injecting advertisements into the game seems a bit scummy to me. Using Patreon by itself to make some money isn't.

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Injecting advertisements into the game seems a bit scummy to me. Using Patreon by itself to make some money isn't.

All hail the scum king: https://www.pcmag.com/news/microsoft-files-patent-for-displaying-personalized-ads-in-games

Originally posted by DredSilent:

All I'm going to say is this: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent

Steam is going that direction, so not sure what the complaint here is.

Are they resurrecting this? That ate dirt in 2015 and was completely canceled as I recall.

Mods aren't officially supported, and even if they were the most IG could do about it is not host their mod - which they're already not, because they don't support mods.

I suppose IG could try to block specific mods from loading, but that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ than paid mods.

Originally posted by Wafflesaurus Supreme:

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Injecting advertisements into the game seems a bit scummy to me. Using Patreon by itself to make some money isn't.

All hail the scum king: https://www.pcmag.com/news/microsoft-files-patent-for-displaying-personalized-ads-in-games

Agreed.

Renting software and data collection to pay for their next mega takerover.

I have no issue with donating to the MOD makers, having it sit behind a pay wall I do. Now if they have an option to donate (to the host), then that's another story.

Originally posted by FissionChips:

Mods aren't officially supported, and even if they were the most IG could do about it is not host their mod - which they're already not, because they don't support mods.

I suppose IG could try to block specific mods from loading, but that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ than paid mods.

In a recent blog post that included a Dev being interviewed, it was mentioned that official mod support if probably coming. The dev is an Irongate programmer that mentioned that it will likely need to be released after Valheim leaves early access, so mods will not be so easily broken in an update.
1h15min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjXIrRFgpR0&t=8634s

Originally posted by DredSilent:

All I'm going to say is this: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent

Steam is going that direction, so not sure what the complaint here is.

Didn't that last only about two weeks, in 2015?

For the boat mod, you get most of the content for free and you can choose to acquire additional content if you donate. It's your choice whether to support the artist. Where is the issue?

You should actually read the mod page and realise that it doesn't require any payments at all to function. The modder simply gives out custom models to those who donate to them. This is very warranted and not unheard of in the modding community, especially to those with a Patreon / Ko-fi etc.

Modding is often long and tedious work. Work done for free, so you can have an enjoyable altered experience of your game. Many people like to show their appreciation and support to modders for their hard work through donations. The fact that this modder is giving out exclusive content to those who donate to them is extremely generous. Nobody is forcing you to donate, and there are many modders who don't give out anything for donating.

i know a lot of smaller companies that don't care. they see it as the modders taking the time out of their lives to work on content for the game.
the larger ones see it as profit they are not getting.
What IGS stance is, idk.

me, i make mods as well. and in fact people can pay me for them. as i have donation links. but i don't lock content behind a paywall. though that is a interesting idea. as i never seen how to do that. but in a way its a neat idea as well. some mods take year's to make and are quite extensive. i seen some that make it into the base game as well.

Its not exactly my choice because Iron Gate Studio could come down hard on paid mods potentially at any time. So I would like some clarity on the issue from Iron Gate before I pay the developers.

For Odinship, there isn't too much content locked away by a paywall. But the Warfare mod appears to have much more content locked away by the paywall.

I am concerned that this could become expensive if this practice from mod developers becomes very widespread. And my mod purchase feels questionable until Irongate makes a clear policy. For example; If Irongate suddenly comes down hard on the paid mod developer, would the mod also suddenly stop being updated and stop working?

I'd argue that the mod developer is not doing anything unethical. They're providing optional content, usually custom art assets. If they're visual mods (such as sails for a ship), they should not be affected by updates to the game (unless scripts are also involved).

You do bring up an interesting question of how long to expect support for a paid mod after its release; that issue is going to be between you and the modder.

2 questions.

1. Have you ever bought a game that people spent their time creating for your enjoyment?
   
2. Have you ever voluntarily donated to mod authors that spent their time creating for your enjoyment?

If you answered "yes" to the first question and "no" to the second, then you have no right to complain about mod authors gating their work behind payment.

All I'm going to say is this: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent

Steam is going that direction, so not sure what the complaint here is.

Well look at the author of the Warfare mod. It is interesting to me as it adds items and make the Deep North and Ashlands more finished. I'm sure it will take Irongate a long time to catch up to Therzie.

But Valheim is $20 game, yet the costs to access Therazie's mod alone is relatively high.
https://www.patreon.com/Therzie

$9CDN for access to single player, or $11/month for server access, or $14.50/month for local and small server access.

I think this mod author maybe pushing his luck without Irongate giving permission to sell this mod product.

And who is to say that Irongate doesn't deserve a share of the profits?

It would be nice if Irongate could hire some of these talented modders to speed up development in the base game.

Originally posted by Azoun:

It would be nice if Irongate could hire some of these talented modders to speed up development in the base game.

That's not really going to work, or there's no past indication of such. Look at BGS's Creation Club – it's mostly just glorified microtransactions, and almost nothing available on there is anything that cannot be recreated with free mods... almost.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/new-premium-75811285

Injecting advertisements into the game seems a bit scummy to me. Using Patreon by itself to make some money isn't.