Ridiculous stone structure failing
If the game gives the ability to carve some stone structures it should have a rational concept. There is a rediculous limit in heigth. And it starts to collapse from the top(funny). Stone it is most durabe material to static normal stress(in mediaeval era). Also by the nature of physics it must start to collapse from the bottom by overweight. If the stupid game considers shear stress caused by side forces like wind, impact, etc. iThere shold be a way to prevent this by building butresses; even if there is no butress, the structure sould fail from the most unsupported part not the top. There are numerous high structures made by stone in history. Sorry but without building entertainment the game is nothing but kill the boss nothing special than Diablo. Oh sorry Valheim has no scenario.
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Ebyl replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 3:35:33 pm PDT
The game uses a very simple concept of distance from the ground (number of connections) as the main factor in stability. Cross beams and other normal supports don't add to stability unless they lessen the number of connections to a grounded component.
Who knows, maybe they'll add a more complex system in later.
Who knows, maybe they'll add a more complex system in later.
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cdplayer906 replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 3:35:45 pm PDT
how do you figure the bottom should collapse first?
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Ebyl replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 3:37:24 pm PDT
Also, I believe the ironwood beams will allow you to build pretty high. You can hide them in stone.
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RasaNova replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 3:38:37 pm PDT
Stone structures can absolutely collapse from the top... In the game and in real life.
If your foundation is solid, and you build from the ground up keeping structural integrity, your buildings won't collapse. If you're having trouble perhaps post some screenshots that show what you're trying to do and perhaps somebody could give advice.
If your foundation is solid, and you build from the ground up keeping structural integrity, your buildings won't collapse. If you're having trouble perhaps post some screenshots that show what you're trying to do and perhaps somebody could give advice.
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Burnin Prograde replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 3:48:22 pm PDT
Blocks stacked ontop of blocks go quite high. If you're having issues with stability try using the metal reinforced beams
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Rasco replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 4:29:51 pm PDT
Stone structures can absolutely collapse from the top... In the game and in real life.
If your foundation is solid, and you build from the ground up keeping structural integrity, your buildings won't collapse. If you're having trouble perhaps post some screenshots that show what you're trying to do and perhaps somebody could give advice.
If under shear stress also if the top is the most unsupported the top would fall aside but under gravitational force of a fixed width structure ,the most pressure will be applied on the most bottom part. that is why in buildings the thickest part is the lowest floor or the most supported by steel. also this is why you need a base foundation.
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Rasco replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 4:33:29 pm PDT
The game uses a very simple concept of distance from the ground (number of connections) as the main factor in stability. Cross beams and other normal supports don't add to stability unless they lessen the number of connections to a grounded component.
Who knows, maybe they'll add a more complex system in later.
I think this is conpletely an unnecessary concept if you want the game to contain a feature of building speciality there should not be any limitation except actual physical rules.
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Kraft51 replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 4:36:17 pm PDT
maybe they WANT that limitation there though, IronGate designs its systems specifically to force the player to think about what they are doing. would be wise to keep this in mind for all features and activities that Valheim provides :)The game uses a very simple concept of distance from the ground (number of connections) as the main factor in stability. Cross beams and other normal supports don't add to stability unless they lessen the number of connections to a grounded component.
Who knows, maybe they'll add a more complex system in later.
I think this is conpletely an unnecessary concept if you want the game to contain a feature of building speciality there should not be any limitation except actual physical rules.
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Rasco replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 4:36:56 pm PDT
Blocks stacked ontop of blocks go quite high. If you're having issues with stability try using the metal reinforced beams
I have tried but there is a limity about 24 units high even using iron beams or thickening the bottom walls the only way is building the tower on a filled groung (by this way on can not have inner space) or building it aroud a tree ( so tree is an undestructible material right stronger than solid rock and iron :D)
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Dialtone replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 4:38:45 pm PDT
Arn if the developers made structures crumble at the bottom first, just imagine the massive influx of angry posts from people who just couldn't stop themselves from putting just one more piece on top. Only to have their whole building crumble like a house of cards. Yes IRL most buildings break where there's too much stress, which due to gravity and mass is usually at the bottom.
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Kraft51 replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 4:49:51 pm PDT
Arn if the developers made structures crumble at the bottom first, just imagine the massive influx of angry posts from people who just couldn't stop themselves from putting just one more piece on top. Only to have their whole building crumble like a house of cards. Yes IRL most buildings break where there's too much stress, which due to gravity and mass is usually at the bottom.lol not to mention the horrid performance tanking that would occur if your entire base started to crumble from the bottom up ... jeez wouldn't want to be around for that lol.
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Ebyl replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 4:55:04 pm PDT
OP, this game might not be for you. Lots of other building games out there.
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Rasco replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 5:00:11 pm PDT
Bu at the same time you should able to solve the problem with thicker base or foundation you should check the bottom parts first if you dont want to collapse your all building. also no one could say anything to a concept which literally true. Not being able to build higher structures which could be possible by physics is much more frusturating.Arn if the developers made structures crumble at the bottom first, just imagine the massive influx of angry posts from people who just couldn't stop themselves from putting just one more piece on top. Only to have their whole building crumble like a house of cards. Yes IRL most buildings break where there's too much stress, which due to gravity and mass is usually at the bottom.lol not to mention the horrid performance tanking that would occur if your entire base started to crumble from the bottom up ... jeez wouldn't want to be around for that lol.
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Rasco replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 5:07:12 pm PDT
OP, this game might not be for you. Lots of other building games out there.This is the most relevant short and clear answer. and literally nothing to say against :D. I started that discussion with a hope that maybe iron gate release a update which removes that limitation. So the customer pleasure is the most important especially when he asks for a judicious request.
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Weaver replied to Ridiculous stone structure failing April 16, 2021 @ 5:07:37 pm PDT
Is OP under the mistaken impression that simulating real world physics with building is a simple task and one most pc's can easily handle? Because he seems to be and it's laughably far from the truth.
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