Originally posted by Naewyng:

For pvp.
Timing a parry is much too risky, and seeing people waste their arrows while your black iron tower shield makes it so that you barely lose any stamina (you literally recover it in between shots) is wonderful!

Originally posted by ByucknahTheRed:

Originally posted by Naewyng:

For pvp.
Timing a parry is much too risky, and seeing people waste their arrows while your black iron tower shield makes it so that you barely lose any stamina (you literally recover it in between shots) is wonderful!

Okay, but you can parry ranged attacks (Which... is weird and I am assuming is absolutely not intended) I have done it to Gray Dwarves, Drauger, and Goblins (I forget their proper names)

So wouldn't regular shields still be better even in that PvP situation by being better able to close the gap through properly timed blocks? Though, admittedly I have not done any PvP so I am not sure if you can time block a player Arrow like you can an NPC projectile.

Originally posted by Luu5:

You lose the parry mechanic and move -20% slower just for approx +10% more block power compared to the normal shields. lvl2 plains enemies still send you staggering regardless which one you use.

Tower shield really need something more important to make them even closely viable to normal shield, such as ALOT more block power, less stamina lost of block or even a shield bash or charge.

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Originally posted by ByucknahTheRed:

Okay, but you can parry ranged attacks (Which... is weird and I am assuming is absolutely not intended) I have done it to Gray Dwarves, Drauger, and Goblins (I forget their proper names)

So wouldn't regular shields still be better even in that PvP situation by being better able to close the gap through properly timed blocks? Though, admittedly I have not done any PvP so I am not sure if you can time block a player Arrow like you can an NPC projectile.

If you can consistently pull it off, sure!
But in my experience having pvp fun with my friends, latency makes it really improbable to pull off a parry, even if you're good at it.

Originally posted by djinnxy:

I see it as a risk/reward or like a champion vs. a tank situation. There's no risk in just raising your shield and absorbing all damage, but the lesser shields can still take some from tough mobs as a price for possibly timing a parry to stun or stagger it.

Originally posted by Luu5:

You lose the parry mechanic and move -20% slower just for approx +10% more block power compared to the normal shields. lvl2 plains enemies still send you staggering regardless which one you use.

Originally posted by Luu5:

Tower shields really need something more important to make them even closely viable to normal shields, such as ALOT more block power, less stamina lost on block, guard jab, or even a shield bash or charge.

Originally posted by Naewyng:

For pvp.
Timing a parry is much too risky, and seeing people waste their arrows while your black iron tower shield makes it so that you barely lose any stamina (you literally recover it in between shots) is wonderful!

Originally posted by ByucknahTheRed:

Originally posted by Naewyng:

For pvp.
Timing a parry is much too risky, and seeing people waste their arrows while your black iron tower shield makes it so that you barely lose any stamina (you literally recover it in between shots) is wonderful!

Okay, but you can parry ranged attacks (Which... is weird and I am assuming is absolutely not intended) I have done it to Gray Dwarves, Drauger, and Goblins (I forget their proper names)

So wouldn't regular shields still be better even in that PvP situation by being better able to close the gap through properly timed blocks? Though, admittedly I have not done any PvP so I am not sure if you can time block a player Arrow like you can an NPC projectile.

Originally posted by Luu5:

You lose the parry mechanic and move -20% slower just for approx +10% more block power compared to the normal shields. lvl2 plains enemies still send you staggering regardless which one you use.

Tower shield really need something more important to make them even closely viable to normal shield, such as ALOT more block power, less stamina lost of block or even a shield bash or charge.

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Originally posted by ByucknahTheRed:

Okay, but you can parry ranged attacks (Which... is weird and I am assuming is absolutely not intended) I have done it to Gray Dwarves, Drauger, and Goblins (I forget their proper names)

So wouldn't regular shields still be better even in that PvP situation by being better able to close the gap through properly timed blocks? Though, admittedly I have not done any PvP so I am not sure if you can time block a player Arrow like you can an NPC projectile.

If you can consistently pull it off, sure!
But in my experience having pvp fun with my friends, latency makes it really improbable to pull off a parry, even if you're good at it.

Originally posted by djinnxy:

I see it as a risk/reward or like a champion vs. a tank situation. There's no risk in just raising your shield and absorbing all damage, but the lesser shields can still take some from tough mobs as a price for possibly timing a parry to stun or stagger it.

Originally posted by Luu5:

You lose the parry mechanic and move -20% slower just for approx +10% more block power compared to the normal shields. lvl2 plains enemies still send you staggering regardless which one you use.

Originally posted by Luu5:

Tower shields really need something more important to make them even closely viable to normal shields, such as ALOT more block power, less stamina lost on block, guard jab, or even a shield bash or charge.