Infested mines changes [potential spoilers]

I did my first Mistland run after the nerf, but before the more recent update. I've now reached there again and cleared my first mine, and have questions about some of the potential changes.

I saw some mention of the royal jelly now regenerating. Is that all that regenerates?

I started my first mine many in-game days ago, found 5 cores, and decided to go off and do some upgrades before I finished it. This mine has one of the big rooms with spiral staircases that go to a second floor. The large room had some seekers in it, and the upper floor had a pair of soldiers and some more seekers.

I cleared all of the large room, upper floor, and all rooms that had been opened. When I came back, many in-game days later, there were 5 or so seekers in that area as well as another soldier. Do mobs respawn in the mines as well now?

I did leave several of the brood sacs on the ceiling. Can those spawn seekers and soldiers? I took out some of them, but ran out of arrows the first time through, and I've wondered if they ever hatch.

I'm also trying to buy a second egg. It seems like last run I got quite a bit of gold from the mines, but this mine only had one of the treasure-type rooms, with less than 100 gold in it. Was that nerfed? I could be remembering it wrong and/or, of course, it could just be RNG. I did find a 6th core outside that room, so I my RNG on the cores wasn't bad.

I just need fast cash, and that Trader wont take any of my slightly used, but still functional hand-me-downs!

6:13 pm, February 23, 2023

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Hobo Misanthropus replied to Infested mines changes [potential spoilers] February 25, 2023 @ 2:31:08 pm PST

Originally posted by Faceplant8:
Originally posted by FissionChips:
You'll need two eitr foods if you want skeletons.
That's the last one on my list. We'll see how the other ones go first...

You have to be using the Barrier. The eitr weave armor isn't as "Fragile" as it seems though. I made a huge mistake and got surrounded by 4 seekers, all of which got a solid hit on me, and with lvl 2 eitr weave, I still had around 30hp left (From about 180 base) that's 2 eitr foods and 1 health (misthare supreme, Yggradasil Porrige and Seeker Aspic)

You can survive 1-2 1 star seeker hits depending on how much your food has decated, but a 2 star seeker will 1 shot you at full health through armor. My MO when a 2 star seeker is seen is to not even risk it, an immediately bonemass.

However, with the barrier, you are always guaranteed to survive 1 hit from ANYTHING in the game, as it has no damage bleed (Mechanically referred to as 1 shot protection) even if the barrier has 1HP left. As you level Blood magic up, the barrier becomes so immensely strong, Blood magic is better protection that full armor and a shield.

I would recommend leveling your blood magic to at least 25 before going into the mistlands as full magic spec. And have a Frost staff. The slowdown effect is worth the DPS loss compared to the fire staff. SKeletons aren't really useful in the mistlands, the terrain is too jagged in most spots, but certainly assess your environment and make the best choice for the engagement at hand.

12:13 am, February 26, 2023

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Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:
Originally posted by Faceplant8:
That's the last one on my list. We'll see how the other ones go first...

You have to be using the Barrier. The eitr weave armor isn't as "Fragile" as it seems though. I made a huge mistake and got surrounded by 4 seekers, all of which got a solid hit on me, and with lvl 2 eitr weave, I still had around 30hp left (From about 180 base) that's 2 eitr foods and 1 health (misthare supreme, Yggradasil Porrige and Seeker Aspic)

You can survive 1-2 1 star seeker hits depending on how much your food has decated, but a 2 star seeker will 1 shot you at full health through armor. My MO when a 2 star seeker is seen is to not even risk it, an immediately bonemass.

However, with the barrier, you are always guaranteed to survive 1 hit from ANYTHING in the game, as it has no damage bleed (Mechanically referred to as 1 shot protection) even if the barrier has 1HP left. As you level Blood magic up, the barrier becomes so immensely strong, Blood magic is better protection that full armor and a shield.

I would recommend leveling your blood magic to at least 25 before going into the mistlands as full magic spec. And have a Frost staff. The slowdown effect is worth the DPS loss compared to the fire staff. SKeletons aren't really useful in the mistlands, the terrain is too jagged in most spots, but certainly assess your environment and make the best choice for the engagement at hand.

Thanks for the advice. I do have some learning to do with magic, since I haven't tried it yet.

You are right that the eitr weave is not bad armor. Fenris is much better than I expected as well, which is a few points weaker, but that's with 200+ health. I've now had to fight 2 2* seekers in the mines, and they hit hard, even with bonemass!

Back to the mines...

12:13 am, February 26, 2023

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Originally posted by Faceplant8:
Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

You have to be using the Barrier. The eitr weave armor isn't as "Fragile" as it seems though. I made a huge mistake and got surrounded by 4 seekers, all of which got a solid hit on me, and with lvl 2 eitr weave, I still had around 30hp left (From about 180 base) that's 2 eitr foods and 1 health (misthare supreme, Yggradasil Porrige and Seeker Aspic)

You can survive 1-2 1 star seeker hits depending on how much your food has decated, but a 2 star seeker will 1 shot you at full health through armor. My MO when a 2 star seeker is seen is to not even risk it, an immediately bonemass.

However, with the barrier, you are always guaranteed to survive 1 hit from ANYTHING in the game, as it has no damage bleed (Mechanically referred to as 1 shot protection) even if the barrier has 1HP left. As you level Blood magic up, the barrier becomes so immensely strong, Blood magic is better protection that full armor and a shield.

I would recommend leveling your blood magic to at least 25 before going into the mistlands as full magic spec. And have a Frost staff. The slowdown effect is worth the DPS loss compared to the fire staff. SKeletons aren't really useful in the mistlands, the terrain is too jagged in most spots, but certainly assess your environment and make the best choice for the engagement at hand.

Thanks for the advice. I do have some learning to do with magic, since I haven't tried it yet.

You are right that the eitr weave is not bad armor. Fenris is much better than I expected as well, which is a few points weaker, but that's with 200+ health. I've now had to fight 2 2* seekers in the mines, and they hit hard, even with bonemass!

Back to the mines...

Yeah, because of how the damage formula works in the game, if your armor is under the attack power of the damage received, each point of armor makes a much larger difference, but then the inverse is true once your armor exceeds the attack power of the enemy hit.

12:13 am, February 26, 2023

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Originally posted by Faceplant8:
Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Raiding some other dungeons may be better for cold hard coin.

That's my plan, but I'm fresh out of feathers for the cape and arrows, and was hoping to get some from my chicken farm, but that's going to have to wait. I guess I'll have to go bird hunting!

The price of eggs is too damn high! :-)

If you need cash, just go to Burial Chambers in the black forest if you are lazy, or Frost Caves in the mountains if you like to gamble (A good frost cave can yield well over 1000 coins, mostly from meat piles)

12:13 am, February 26, 2023

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Originally posted by FissionChips:
Why are you using eitr weave with no magic and all health foods ???

I haven't been able to build any staves yet. I've been looking everywhere for skulls and haven't found any in quite a while. I did pick up some soft tissue from a Dvergr outpost that had an unfortunate run in with a solder, so I'm about to make at least one.

The eitr weave has a bit more armor value than the fenris that I was wearing. I trade off some in mobility, but I haven't noticed it much.

I have nothing to use eitr on, so there's no reason to eat eitr food yet, and I very seldom eat stamina food.

I am concerned about what's going to happen when I have to trade off a health food for an eitr, especially if I try it before I get all the staves, so I may wait until I get them all.

9:13 pm, February 25, 2023

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Originally posted by Faceplant8:
I am concerned about what's going to happen when I have to trade off a health food for an eitr,

You'll need two eitr foods if you want skeletons.

9:13 pm, February 25, 2023

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Originally posted by FissionChips:
Originally posted by Faceplant8:
I am concerned about what's going to happen when I have to trade off a health food for an eitr,
You'll need two eitr foods if you want skeletons.

That's the last one on my list. We'll see how the other ones go first...

9:13 pm, February 25, 2023

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Faceplant8 replied to Infested mines changes [potential spoilers] February 24, 2023 @ 10:27:09 pm PST

This new eitr weave armor is not as strong as I expected. Found a mine with half a dozen seekers, who knows how many ticks, a 2* seeker, and two soldiers right at the entrance. I think I saw a 1* seeker in there as well, and I'm sure there are more. I can't even get off the starting platform without something knocking me back out the door!

I've taken everything that I've seen so far out except the last soldier, which is almost done, but now I have to work my way across mistlands, and sail back to my base, which fortunately is close by, to fix my armor, which is in tatters.

I hope there's something good in there. I'm over 1000 gold now in my egg fund, and 12ish cores, so I don't need too much more.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2938543747

9:13 am, February 25, 2023

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Rhapsody replied to Infested mines changes [potential spoilers] February 24, 2023 @ 11:00:52 pm PST

The game's way of asking "are you sure it's not time to head back yet?"

9:13 am, February 25, 2023

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FissionChips replied to Infested mines changes [potential spoilers] February 25, 2023 @ 12:29:56 am PST

Why are you using eitr weave with no magic and all health foods ???

Pretty sure mob respawn was in the patch notes, and brood sacs only spawn brood.

9:13 am, February 25, 2023

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Faceplant8 replied to Infested mines changes [potential spoilers] February 24, 2023 @ 8:28:18 am PST

Found another mine and got 1 more core and a whopping 14 gold!

I may have had some change in my pocket when I went in, because I don't even know where that 14 gold would have come from.

I may just have to "borrow" the cash from some fuling villages. I could probably use a bit more iron as well (who couldn't), so there's that route as well, but I also need some more soft tissue, so it's probably back to the mist first...

I'm also sporting a new set of eitr weave armor to try out. I don't have any staves yet, so it's a tradeoff between a bit more armor value over the Fenris, with some loss of motion. We'll see how it goes.

6:13 pm, February 24, 2023

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qwerm replied to Infested mines changes [potential spoilers] February 23, 2023 @ 4:14:37 pm PST

I have two infested mines I have cleared after the update, and both respawn royal jelly after 9 in game days, so far, I have yet to see any mobs respawn; this has made me a little sad, because I was also hoping to have a reliable source of clots. Though to be fair, I've been running into a LOT of gjalls still, so I've got clots for days.

I may still kidnap a gjall and stick it in an enclosure to farm ticks though.

3:13 am, February 24, 2023

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Originally posted by Faceplant8:
The price of eggs is too damn high! :-)

Prolly bird flu.

3:13 am, February 24, 2023

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Rhapsody replied to Infested mines changes [potential spoilers] February 23, 2023 @ 10:21:27 am PST

Seekers and others will also repopulate the dungeons. It's like bugs being difficult to squash out. I don't think the brood sacs have anything to do with it though, they are their own thing.

Dvergr treasure rooms have kind of unpredictable contents. Raiding some other dungeons may be better for cold hard coin.

9:13 pm, February 23, 2023

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Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Raiding some other dungeons may be better for cold hard coin.

That's my plan, but I'm fresh out of feathers for the cape and arrows, and was hoping to get some from my chicken farm, but that's going to have to wait. I guess I'll have to go bird hunting!

The price of eggs is too damn high! :-)

9:13 pm, February 23, 2023

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