Originally posted by GunsForBucks:

Originally posted by Falaris:

This is an exellent example of two psychological effects and possibly some ingenious programming.

The first effect is something called negativity bias. Basically, negative events become overrepresented in our consciousness.
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And then something called confirmation bias kicks in. .

So basically all you really need to do is change your attitude toward it.

If you act like it always blows in your favor then the bias will reinforce that. Pretty simple actually. Especially considering it really does just by chance ha ha.

Well, it's called negativity bias for a reason. It's not quite so self-reinforcing if it's positive events. But, that's how to deal with it, yes. Just recognize that it's a trick your mind plays on you and ignore it.

Admittedly, I've wondered if the game recognize the direction you go in and make sure you get a headwind. Sometimes it even follows when I turn. But, nah, that's gotta be coincidence.

Gotta be.

There's some truth to the bias. A bad wind drastically slows down travel, therefore the trip takes longer, therefore there is more experience dealing with bad winds than good winds.

Of course it doesn't help when 8 out of 10 voyages go directly into head wind. Valheim's destination prediction algorithm is truly above par.

Ah, another bias thread about wind and how it is always anti-player. Didn't we have a roughly 10 page thread on this to only find out there is no wind / player connection?


Strap in, we are in for some rocky weather here.

I'll be the nice guy and tell OP.. I feel you mate. Sometimes it really feel that. It get's better after Moder..

HOWEVER

I honestly don't think it's the case.
Good luck, may the wind at least always smell of pine.

Small factoid: If you sail around the rim, the wind *is* programmed to always blow off the disk, guiding you to doom - or if you know how to sail- a speedy rim run.

I love sailing in this game, though. Nothing quite beats sailing up some wide river in the sunlight. My only real complain is it's too dark; I'd wish the days were longer.

Originally posted by Falaris:

I love sailing in this game, though. Nothing quite beats sailing up some wide river in the sunlight. My only real complain is it's too dark; I'd wish the days were longer.

Ha ha. I like mine tight and wet, and me with the biggest boat. Yes it's prolly my favorite part of this game.

On a side note, I really love the waves in this game too. I think they made the waves a bit bigger a patch or 2 ago. Just love rocking out on the high seas, I mean Ocean.

This is an exellent example of two psychological effects and possibly some ingenious programming.

The first effect is something called negativity bias. Basically, negative events become overrepresented in our consciousness. You can view that in several ways. In any game based on open dice rolls, you'll always see threads about the AI cheating. In fact, research has shown that if 60% of events are positive, and 40% negative, the player will feel it is perfectly even. (And 90% of all statistics is made up on the spot, or 'I heard it was like that once'. This might possibly be in that category... but I have actually heard it. ;) ). End result - most players will feel like the game cheats against them a bit, even if the devs would have no reason whatsoever to do that.

It's also why many forums seem overrun by haters.... no, wait, that's because they ARE.

So, normally we want more positive than negative. The game actually provides that; the wind rose gives positive effects for a pretty large part of the possible wind directions; way more so than actual viking ships.

But here's the kicker. It's pretty normal to make a conclusion that the game is out to get you if you feel like you're getting more headwind than you should. And then something called confirmation bias kicks in. Because every time you get a headwind from that point on, you think of it as confirming your theory... .almost regardless of how often it actually happens.

It's perfectly natural to form this theory - that the game predicts your movement and gives you headwinds constantly - and conclude that it's proven right, regardless of whether it's actually true.

Of course, the game does. That's the real kicker.

Originally posted by Falaris:

This is an exellent example of two psychological effects and possibly some ingenious programming.

The first effect is something called negativity bias. Basically, negative events become overrepresented in our consciousness. You can view that in several ways. In any game based on open dice rolls, you'll always see threads about the AI cheating. In fact, research has shown that if 60% of events are positive, and 40% negative, the player will feel it is perfectly even. (And 90% of all statistics is made up on the spot, or 'I heard it was like that once'. This might possibly be in that category... but I have actually heard it. ;) ). End result - most players will feel like the game cheats against them a bit, even if the devs would have no reason whatsoever to do that.

It's also why many forums seem overrun by haters.... no, wait, that's because they ARE.

So, normally we want more positive than negative. The game actually provides that; the wind rose gives positive effects for a pretty large part of the possible wind directions; way more so than actual viking ships.

But here's the kicker. It's pretty normal to make a conclusion that the game is out to get you if you feel like you're getting more headwind than you should. And then something called confirmation bias kicks in. Because every time you get a headwind from that point on, you think of it as confirming your theory... .almost regardless of how often it actually happens.

It's perfectly natural to form this theory - that the game predicts your movement and gives you headwinds constantly - and conclude that it's proven right, regardless of whether it's actually true.

Of course, the game does. That's the real kicker.

So basically all you really need to do is change your attitude toward it.

If you act like it always blows in your favor then the bias will reinforce that. Pretty simple actually. Especially considering it really does just by chance ha ha.

Thats a real wow indeed...
and then we got a true lame AI in monsters ( and animals ) and sticking battle style where we cant aim our hits ( pretty annoying in slopes or elevations )

Works great for me. Actually it seems to blow in my favor more often than not. If I do end up paddling it isn't long before it shifts again to help.

I love the wind and it loves me!

Originally posted by jamesc70:

Originally posted by retsam1:

Hint: Go to a stream with fish. Move and watch what they do.

So wait, you are saying the devs have a stream of psychic fish that programmed the wind?

No, the psychic fish programmed the code you call reality...but they messed up on the game code a bit so the wind is off. :)

But yes, the wind can be very frustrating at times. Plus the RNG wind drops no loot. The landlubber life ain't too bad. Skal!

Randomness is fascinating.

Some call it luck.

Originally posted by retsam1:

Hint: Go to a stream with fish. Move and watch what they do.

So wait, you are saying the devs have a stream of psychic fish that programmed the wind?

Hint: Go to a stream with fish. Move and watch what they do.