Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Okay, no armor is not good! My first encounter was against a pair of deathsquitos. I got double teamed front and back, and went down right away. Padded armor is highly recommended. :-)

Same happened to me only I had padded armor but forgot to eat anything so was at 25 HP. Now, I eat, raise my shield and weapons before going through a portal when exploring.

Sometimes when you go through a portal nowadays, it's like a dinner bell going off for the mobs.

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Originally posted by Mr. X:

You don't need to block a Fuling. Just wait until he attacks and then make 2 steps back. When the Furling successfully hits the air start counter-attack and kill him with your 3-combo attack. If you get used to this tactic even 2x2* Fulings at once are easy (but still risky). I pefer using swords in the plains because of the small knockback.

yeah well then remove armor and shields entirely if we're just supposed to Bloodborne the entire game.

This is kind of what I'm getting at.

I know how to avoid hits entirely. I can roll, I can bait out attacks and then move. But we have shields and armor so that not every engagement has to be a dodge fest. It's like shields went from being S tier to F tier.

I am way better off not equipping a shield now at all. Blocking is a liability. I shouldn't be mining and spending all these resources on something that is a net loss to my combat performance.

Originally posted by OperationFAIL:

Originally posted by Quineloe:

yeah well then remove armor and shields entirely if we're just supposed to Bloodborne the entire game.

This is kind of what I'm getting at.

I know how to avoid hits entirely. I can roll, I can bait out attacks and then move. But we have shields and armor so that not every engagement has to be a dodge fest. It's like shields went from being S tier to F tier.

I am way better off not equipping a shield now at all. Blocking is a liability. I shouldn't be mining and spending all these resources on something that is a net loss to my combat performance.

I havent any problems in black forest to plains , a black metal shield lvl 3 can parry 135 damage
But you must eat 2 top HP foods of the biome you are fighting ( swamp : sausage and black soup , mountain : wolf skewer and sausage/serpent stew , plains : lox pie and serpent stew )
The stagger system that devs adds makes food that you ate trully important in the time you want parry or blocking

Fully upgraded padded armor + lvl 3 black metal shield. Mix of plains swamp and mountains food. ( sausages, wolf skeever and bread )
No problems with stamina, deathsquito barely does any damage even it hit me. With block nothing. I can tank 2 or 3 hits from 2 star fulling and not die. That means no block. all damage to my face.
With full plains tier food it's like a walk in meadows.
Parry and even 2 star fullings go down fast.
It feels that when creature get to hit you to your backside, you take extra punishment.

Keep in mind that you aren't in Top Tier gear... you are in the highest Tier gear currently in the game during EA. Eventually other Biomes may bring about new gear and new food options that will make it easier to deal with. Which may be part of the change. (I'm guessing I don't know)


Also not counting a shield Padded armour should result in about 18 damage from a regular fulling getting through.

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

With a 50 unarmed skill (probably less as well), you can kill a deathsquito in one punch, and not even take any damage if you time it right. A 0 start fulling takes a 1-2 punch. Maybe 3 with a 1*.

Lmao. Disable Valheim+ before dispensing advice on the forum please.

Originally posted by Mr. X:

You don't need to block a Fuling. Just wait until he attacks and then make 2 steps back. When the Furling successfully hits the air start counter-attack and kill him with your 3-combo attack. If you get used to this tactic even 2x2* Fulings at once are easy (but still risky). I pefer using swords in the plains because of the small knockback.

yeah well then remove armor and shields entirely if we're just supposed to Bloodborne the entire game.

Originally posted by Anarchist Jurisdictor:

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

With a 50 unarmed skill (probably less as well), you can kill a deathsquito in one punch, and not even take any damage if you time it right. A 0 start fulling takes a 1-2 punch. Maybe 3 with a 1*.

Lmao. Disable Valheim+ before dispensing advice on the forum please.

I don't use any mods that affect combat, but thank you for your advice.

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Originally posted by Mr. X:

You don't need to block a Fuling. Just wait until he attacks and then make 2 steps back. When the Furling successfully hits the air start counter-attack and kill him with your 3-combo attack. If you get used to this tactic even 2x2* Fulings at once are easy (but still risky). I pefer using swords in the plains because of the small knockback.

yeah well then remove armor and shields entirely if we're just supposed to Bloodborne the entire game.

I mean yeah, 15% less movement speed will screw most players over without realizing it. Having lots of HP and maxed Troll armor (and drake helmet) can take a few hits, but atleast you get to actually kite and dodge properly.

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Originally posted by Mr. X:

You don't need to block a Fuling. Just wait until he attacks and then make 2 steps back. When the Furling successfully hits the air start counter-attack and kill him with your 3-combo attack. If you get used to this tactic even 2x2* Fulings at once are easy (but still risky). I pefer using swords in the plains because of the small knockback.

yeah well then remove armor and shields entirely if we're just supposed to Bloodborne the entire game.

I've thought about trying that to see how long I would last, but it probably wouldn't be all that long. You could only mistime hits once or twice before you'd be down. Spears would also be a problem. Maybe just a shield?

I may give it a go with my second character to see what happens.

Okay, no armor is not good! My first encounter was against a pair of deathsquitos. I got double teamed front and back, and went down right away. Padded armor is highly recommended. :-)

In padded armor you don't even need a weapon or shield to take out 0-1 star fulling or deathsquitos. With a 50 unarmed skill (probably less as well), you can kill a deathsquito in one punch, and not even take any damage if you time it right. A 0 start fulling takes a 1-2 punch. Maybe 3 with a 1*.

With a black iron sword/sheild, it's no contest. Most of the time you can just step up to them when they're doing their running around before they attack, and kill them before they can even turn towards you. Wost case, parry with the sword, followed by one swing of the sword and it's over.

A dozen fulings is a different story. I faced that last night and won, but most should probably just run if that happens. You can mow them down pretty quick with a black iron sword, but even with bonemass ability, you're going to get pounded pretty hard while doing it!

Eat better food, and practice your melee on easier stuff until you get the timing right.

Archery is great, but you're likely going to have to melee at some point, or be a very good runner.

You don't need to block a Fuling. Just wait until he attacks and then make 2 steps back. When the Furling successfully hits the air start counter-attack and kill him with your 3-combo attack. If you get used to this tactic even 2x2* Fulings at once are easy (but still risky). I pefer using swords in the plains because of the small knockback.

Nah you just dont get the rework and how important food tier is now , you really need eat biome tier food to fight same biome because new hp/block system , with less you will have a really bad time , cant go to the plains with swamp food anymore , armor just help to resist but is a 50/50 now with the food and shielding
Hp/hp/stam is the type of food to fight the same biome with meele, stam/stam/hp for kite/bow/exploring/work

I mean I can kite half the entire village of 15 mobs and kill 1 or 2 at a time fairly easily.

Don't use a tower shield as it slows you down to much. But even with 20% movement penalty from weapon/shield and armor it's super easy to kite everything except the deathsquitos which you can 1 shot if you just time it right without ever getting attacked.

Basically play the game and you get use to what you need to do and it's super easy even without best gear.

I switch to 2 stamina foods and 1 health food as I am confident that I am not going to take more than 1 hit from anything at a time. A deathsquito might get a single hit in but it's not going to kill me and you can medium health potion while kiting.

The combat is not ment to be like God of War or something where you just stand and fight everything like a viking. Strangely the combat is more of a ranger playstyle even if your only using melee weapons which is good honestly. If you could just stand and fight everything easily it would be even easier without having to move around.