Originally posted by Draconifors:

Yeaaah, no.

I've been told, and this source is certainly reliable because I know him and he wouldn't bs me, that wind direction depends on the nearest island(s) and where their centre or highest point (I don't recall the exact details) is. It was clearly implied the information's origin was some official source, too.

The discussion took place in a voice chat months and months ago, so I don't have an exact quote. But what he said made sense (certainly a lot more than this theory), and nothing I've observed in-game contradicts it.
In fact, I always know what the wind direction is going to be at locations I sail in/past often -- and no, it does not make any difference whether said locations have a portal.

It really is as simple as being dependent on the world's geography.
Not anything a player does or has. That would not even make any sense.

This doesn't match my experience either. Nor does it explain the wind changing direction while standing still.

Originally posted by wizard_of_woz:

Originally posted by magilla666:

Folks...maybe just get into the game, get on a boat, and pay attention to the wind...do it a few times since a sample size of 1 is meaningless. Or don't, it doesn't mean much to me. Just thought it was interesting.

I don't need to go into the game to use logic. So I am half away across the world. Meaning only one portal will be closest, based off your theory the wind direction would never change then. Also one of the other posters made a good point, how does the wind change if there are no portals built yet?

A few years back, I helped run a research program for "advanced" students at my college. One of the students was measuring bacterial growth over time. When she showed me her data, the final observation was missing. I asked about it and she replied, "Oh, I didn't take that observation because I knew what it would be."

Originally posted by warrenchmobile:

Originally posted by magilla666:

Folks...maybe just get into the game, get on a boat, and pay attention to the wind...do it a few times since a sample size of 1 is meaningless. Or don't, it doesn't mean much to me. Just thought it was interesting.

Let's not get wrapped around the axle about this.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2658912546

As one can see, I have done quite a bit of sailing and have built a few portals. magilla666 could very well be right. My experience so far indicates otherwise. I always pay attention to the wind when I am on a boat since sailing with a tail wind or a wind from one side is much faster than rowing. Of course it is no simple task to determine which portal may be the closest on my voyages.

I can say there is not an absolute, direct relationship between wind direction for vessels and the location of the nearest portal. The wind does not always blow from the nearest portal.
Just as a viking's proximity to a creature spawn point does not guarantee a creature will immediately spawn there.

Iron Gate Studio may have spent a lot of time and effort building enough randomness into any portal influence on wind direction to make it difficult to to know for sure. I would applaud them for that while castigating them for not putting that time and effort toward finishing the game.

There are certainly no absolutes in this, which is why I suggested making more than a single observation. Also, there have to be protocols in place for other circumstances, like when there are no portals on the map- it's likely just the rng at work then. But under the circumstances I described, it seems to happen more often than I'd expect from a purely random system. Thanks for keeping an open mind.

Originally posted by magilla666:

A few years back, I helped run a research program for "advanced" students at my college. One of the students was measuring bacterial growth over time. When she showed me her data, the final observation was missing. I asked about it and she replied, "Oh, I didn't take that observation because I knew what it would be."

After reading through your OP and your corresponding responses, I understand what you were trying to get at here. Some members are a bit defensive, because your post might come off as being critical nonsense, BUT I digress. I think you're just curious to see if there is some correlation between what you experienced, with what might be a reality. Thus want to see if other people get that experience as well. ♥

Alas, I haven't had such an experience consistently. When I was only able to build rafts, I was chased down by sea serpents when I had no ore in me, and the wind changed drastically regardless. When I finally was able to build karves, sea serpents attacked me more often when I was without ore, than with any. The wind also changed drastically randomly regardless I had ore or not. In the three times I used a longboat, I only had one experience with the sea serpent and we were carrying iron ore. The wind was somewhat consistent. One of the other two times, I carried ore with me and the wind was consistent. The last time, I didn't carry any ore and the wind was also still consistent.

Of course, to see a real pattern, it means I have to sail a lot more. Perhaps 100 times to get a better sampling.

Yeaaah, no.

I've been told, and this source is certainly reliable because I know him and he wouldn't bs me, that wind direction depends on the nearest island(s) and where their centre or highest point (I don't recall the exact details) is. It was clearly implied the information's origin was some official source, too.

The discussion took place in a voice chat months and months ago, so I don't have an exact quote. But what he said made sense (certainly a lot more than this theory), and nothing I've observed in-game contradicts it.
In fact, I always know what the wind direction is going to be at locations I sail in/past often -- and no, it does not make any difference whether said locations have a portal.

It really is as simple as being dependent on the world's geography.
Not anything a player does or has. That would not even make any sense.

THANK YOU!

We were saying the exact same thing, the wind is forever turning as soon as you do so that it's against you.

Originally posted by magilla666:

Folks...maybe just get into the game, get on a boat, and pay attention to the wind...do it a few times since a sample size of 1 is meaningless. Or don't, it doesn't mean much to me. Just thought it was interesting.

Let's not get wrapped around the axle about this.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2658912546

As one can see, I have done quite a bit of sailing and have built a few portals. magilla666 could very well be right. My experience so far indicates otherwise. I always pay attention to the wind when I am on a boat since sailing with a tail wind or a wind from one side is much faster than rowing. Of course it is no simple task to determine which portal may be the closest on my voyages.

I can say there is not an absolute, direct relationship between wind direction for vessels and the location of the nearest portal. The wind does not always blow from the nearest portal.
Just as a viking's proximity to a creature spawn point does not guarantee a creature will immediately spawn there.

Iron Gate Studio may have spent a lot of time and effort building enough randomness into any portal influence on wind direction to make it difficult to to know for sure. I would applaud them for that while castigating them for not putting that time and effort toward finishing the game.

Folks...maybe just get into the game, get on a boat, and pay attention to the wind...do it a few times since a sample size of 1 is meaningless. Or don't, it doesn't mean much to me. Just thought it was interesting.

Originally posted by magilla666:

Folks...maybe just get into the game, get on a boat, and pay attention to the wind...do it a few times since a sample size of 1 is meaningless. Or don't, it doesn't mean much to me. Just thought it was interesting.

I don't need to go into the game to use logic. So I am half away across the world. Meaning only one portal will be closest, based off your theory the wind direction would never change then. Also one of the other posters made a good point, how does the wind change if there are no portals built yet?

Originally posted by magilla666:

Folks...maybe just get into the game, get on a boat, and pay attention to the wind...do it a few times since a sample size of 1 is meaningless.

I can confirm that winds does change both in direction and intensity when on a raft and no portal has been built yet. Sometimes it can turn 180° quite frankly and quickly.

Originally posted by magilla666:

Folks...maybe just get into the game, get on a boat, and pay attention to the wind...do it a few times since a sample size of 1 is meaningless. Or don't, it doesn't mean much to me. Just thought it was interesting.

My experience does not match your hypothesis.

I was able to construct and use a raft long before I was able to construct a portal. I did so.

If wind direction was, in fact, influenced by portal location, how was the program able to set or change wind direction before I had built any portal?

I built my first portal at my base located on the western shore of my starter island. If the wind direction is most often from the nearest portal and I only had the one at my base, I should have had mostly clear sailing away from my base and had to do a lot of rowing on return trips. I do not recall this being the case.

Once I began to build portals on land masses away from my starter island, a consistent pattern should have emerged. More often than not, I should have started each voyage whether out from my base to a distant land or in from a distant land to my base with a tail wind. As I neared my destination, the wind should have changed to a head wind, requiring me to finish voyages generally by rowing. In my experience, this did not happen.

It’s a simple algorithm of direction_you_want_to_go*180degrees.

Originally posted by magilla666:

Hi all,
I've been keeping track of what the wind does once you get on a boat. It happens way too often for coincidence that the wind will change so that it's blowing (within a few degrees) from the nearest portal. It might happen all at once, or be gradual. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it makes sailing really painful. Do me a favor and check it the next few times your on the water.

How does that work when you are well away from all your portals and the wind changes? Doesn't make any sense.

This sounds like that myth that serpents attacks you much more when transport ore in your boat , thats is fake hahaha