Originally posted by Vaylor:

I'm a big fan of the Atgeir as my end game weapon. I usually run around with that, a sword, porcupine, and buckler just so I can play around with different weapons as I go(and of course bow). The polearm just seems so much better for all of the plains enemies to me.

I really wanted to like Atgeir, but never leveled my Polearm skill enough for them to be effective. Prior to H&H I used Daggers (but never made it to or past the Swamp), after H&H I finally broke down and tried out Clubs.

Other weapons absolutely do have good uses. Despite Clubs being so good, against the current last boss, Silver Sword is inarguably the best. Atgeir have a good AoE for a third attack that, for all I know, may be better than the two Mauls we have, with enough skill levels.

Swords seem to be in the middle in terms of output vs cost. Axes.. well, I like them, but I primarily use one for cutting trees, so the extra durability loss from maining it as a combat weapon always turned me off from using them in combat. (And the two-handed axes I just don't care for, although Crystal Battleaxe is pretty good.)

Bows? Really hoping we get a new one. Draugr Fang is great, and the Poison augmentation is cool to boot. Unsure what a "Bone" variant would offer.. maybe Spirit damage? More Poison as a DoT? Something else as a DoT? Hard to say, but I'm eager to see the new tier of weapons regardless.

I do hope they update the Black Metal tier and at least put in Pickaxes. Iron just doesn't cut it at that point in the game when you're doing so much gathering of Iron, Stone, and possibly Copper & Tin as well. A person could always carry two, yes, but.. it's just tedious. :(

Also still salty there wasn't a Black Metal upgrade for the Iron Sledge.. it could have looked so awesome. Maybe a Maul style instead of a very large hammer, although a large hammer could have looked great too.

Also curious what will happen with Flametal. Mistlands use, or something more later on? Maybe our first two-handed sword will use it.. or maybe they'll incorporate Fire damage in to Mistlands somehow. Feel like Spirit damage would be more highlighted, though.

Atgeir for me is the best weapon. The spin attack is ridiciously overpowered and can stun Fuling berserkes and Lox! You don't need high skill levels to use it (actually I never bothered with skill levels), you just need to get the timing right.

It's extended range makes it the ideal weapon to fight mobs that you don't want to hit you. Well, mobs that are not much bigger than you anyway.

Atgeir, must have IMHO.

Edit: A bronze atgeir at lvl 4 is a serious weapon even for the plains! Hard to believe any other bronze weapon could do that.

My first play through I really liked the bronze atgeir, but lost favor with it for some reason. I'll have to give it another chance at some point.

How does the atgeir work against the fast attack of wolves?

Did they nerf wolves somewhere along the line? I remember they used do be in packs of two, three, sometimes even four, but I've been spending quite a bit of time lately in the mountains in iron gear, and have not encountered anything other than a single wolf at a time.

300 hours on this game and i didn't know weapons had secondary attacks lmao

Another vote for the Porcupine. It works great against Stone Golems too. The secondary attack will stun them, do major damage and then a few follow up swipes finish them off. Do NOT use the Pickax unless you have no other choice. (The secondary thrust of the Silver Sword or Blackmetal Sword work great too.) Build those crystal windows you've always wanted!
You've got to have a Draugr Fang too. I think there's at least one more bow coming in the next major update. Curious to see if it's better than the Draugr Fang or just different. From sneak peaks I think it's a Bone Bow? End game for me is Blackmetal Shield, Porcupine, Blackmetal Sword, Blackmetal Axe. Not including any tools here. Those weapons will cover all your needs. If you have the Draugr Fang you only really need wood arrows. I tend to also carry Needle Arrows because they have the highest pierce damage and I'm swimming in Deathsquito barbs. Frost arrows are also useful but not critical. Don't bother with any of the rest. Waste of materials.

EpicLoot mod is the end game. Just saying. When you have cleared the vanilla, built a base (or 50) on 10 different realms, you do 1 of 3 things;

1) burn out.
2) install some mods to add content and quality that extends the life of your game.
3) find an online server to join (Need a Discord account, links below)

Jotunheim is un-modded, like the original game but.. with more vikings! Also, their community has built a main quest line, which is awesome-sauce when you first join the realm!
discord.gg/WmRVCMMR5f

Tyrenheim (my personal fav') is lightly modded, with leveled zones. Mostly focused on adding to quality of life and helping each other from the day you spawn-in.
https://discord.gg/srEVGkDRWJ

Alfheim is ridiculously modded to the point you think your viking got trapped inside of the rainbow bridge. Players seem mostly dissociated, unless you ask for help.
discord.gg/zeEfXRT

Please be cautious when following external links, of course.

All three of those online realms have excellent communities, very helpful. They build huge engineering projects, they have active devs and admin support, and offer a diverse number of mods that you can sample. Each of those realms also offers community events and anti-cheat software.

So, stop thinking 'end' game BiS, because little brother, there is more!

I'm a big fan of the Atgeir as my end game weapon. I usually run around with that, a sword, porcupine, and buckler just so I can play around with different weapons as I go(and of course bow). The polearm just seems so much better for all of the plains enemies to me.

In almost every game there is a 'meta', but the meta is not always the most fun. Give em all a shot, experiment, find the ones that fit your play-style.

And nothing wrong with lugging around a few different weapon classes as they all fit a need.

Rather like keeping a Swiss Army Knife handy, lugging a variety of pokers and slashers and crushers about.

Originally posted by Autistic Horce:

what weapons are currently considered end game

i have crafted and fully upgraded one of each weapon but not sure which one to go for my end game build with

shields to but the serpent shield looks to good to give up

Just use an entire suit of the wolf armour with wolf fang spear or black metal knife, occasionally using a shield, always having stamina potions on hand.

Originally posted by Behind_You:

Originally posted by Autistic Horce:

what weapons are currently considered end game

i have crafted and fully upgraded one of each weapon but not sure which one to go for my end game build with

shields to but the serpent shield looks to good to give up

Just use an entire suit of the wolf armour with wolf fang spear or black metal knife, occasionally using a shield, always having stamina potions on hand.

I really loved knives until H&H; they nerfed the 10x backstab multiplier to 6x.

While they are more Stamina-efficient than other weapons, the raw damage output other weapons of the same tier offers makes them superior with proper Stamina management. Even more so if you're one to carry Stamina pots for burst regen.

is the iron sledge still good endgame?
i really like the look of it and i think its bugged because using it takes not stamina to use

Originally posted by Autistic Horce:

is the iron sledge still good endgame?
i really like the look of it and i think its bugged because using it takes not stamina to use

With high enough Club skill, yes, it's viable. I mostly use it to handle the "Hunted" event; you can one-shot Wolves in a large area, or at the very least knock them back, so they become a non-issue. Beyond that, if you have to go in to a Crypt or something for extra Iron, it works quite well at clearing out non-starred Draugr, Blobs, and the like.

I use it for that purpose, and also for clearing out Saplings in large amounts very quickly. It's also pretty good at taking down derelict structures made of wood that you find throughout the world.

When it comes to two-handed weaponry, though, the Crystal Battle Axe is the best. It has a unique third attack that stuns enemies. It is quite slow, though. (And it can also cut trees!)

As far as "end game" equipment:

1. Porcupine - absolutely devastating weapon. With Sneak, you can one-shot Trolls. (not that they're an issue at this point anyway; a couple swings after a Parry and they're done.)

Also works really well on Lox, and Fuling.

2. Frostner - Frostner offers the utility of slowing enemies struck with it, so it still has its uses even in the Plains.

3. Draugr Fang - best bow in the game currently, so with easy-to-make Needle Arrows it's quite devastating.

After that, I simply use a Black Metal Axe, Iron Pickaxe (since there's not a Black Metal variant for some unknown reason.. sigh), and the standard Hammer/Hoe.

I like to explore and this is my usual end game load-out. Padded armor and black metal weapons/shield, Draugr Fang, wood and needle arrows. If I go into the mountains I also carry the Porcupine in case I run into Stone Golems.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2809831175

Any Black Metal & Silver tier weapons & shields, along with Padded armour is enough protection for late game for most. Serpent Shield is decent vs. pierce damage, so good against archers, deathsquitos & fuling spear throwers.

whatever you want, I agree serpent shield looks real good. I actually used the serpent shield in my first play through and found it worked well enough but that was before I learnt how to parry. so if your no good at parrying serpent is good, but once you learn parrying you wont really want to use tower shields anymore.

end game weapons are any of the blackmetal weapons, frostner, drauger fang, porcupine, sledge, crystal axe. silver sword is a good contender for an end game weapon as well fyi

Yagluth is most susceptible to the secondary pierce attack of the black metal sword. Level 4 padded armor, level 4 black metal sword and level 3 black metal shield and you rule the Plains.