Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops]
If I plant 20 fir trees, I get maybe 4-5 seed drops. (If you don't realize how this is a problem...) *Are there growth stages or methods of acquiring more drop rates?!?!?!?!!?
Beech trees drop enough seeds so as to slowly grow a stock. It's clearly greater than 1:1 ratio.
Does anybody know what the drop rates are? They absolutely need to be slightly greater than 1:1 for tree farming to be remotely plausible.
Going beyond that, if you actually wanted to replant your forests that you cut down, just to maintain the aesthetic, that's also not possible.
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I also don't really understand why oak and birch produce no seeds and cannot be farmed. (If that's a balance thing, I guess I can understand to a point. However, it would be soooo much better if that balance were made through growth times, and not simply unavailable. Even if it takes a week in game to grow a fine tree, it would still be worth having even if for just beautification. (Or for us economy of scale crazies) :) ;) :P
Bottom line, we need more seeds produced than trees cut. At minimum 1 seed should drop, and there should be a chance of a second seed. (Unless I'm missing something... And this already exists.)
Beech trees drop enough seeds so as to slowly grow a stock. It's clearly greater than 1:1 ratio.
Does anybody know what the drop rates are? They absolutely need to be slightly greater than 1:1 for tree farming to be remotely plausible.
Going beyond that, if you actually wanted to replant your forests that you cut down, just to maintain the aesthetic, that's also not possible.
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I also don't really understand why oak and birch produce no seeds and cannot be farmed. (If that's a balance thing, I guess I can understand to a point. However, it would be soooo much better if that balance were made through growth times, and not simply unavailable. Even if it takes a week in game to grow a fine tree, it would still be worth having even if for just beautification. (Or for us economy of scale crazies) :) ;) :P
Bottom line, we need more seeds produced than trees cut. At minimum 1 seed should drop, and there should be a chance of a second seed. (Unless I'm missing something... And this already exists.)
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EchoSON replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 5:59:21 am PDT
There are trees absolutely everywhere - and many saplings all over the place which (I think) grow into trees if they're given room.
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Power replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 6:00:28 am PDT
1: its early access
2: The world is massive go explore it and get resources away from your home forest then
2: The world is massive go explore it and get resources away from your home forest then
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DredSilent replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 6:01:16 am PDT
Trees take literally a night to grow. You cannot replant Ancient, Oak, or Birch trees as of now.
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NefariousFox replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:23:18 am PDT
Gee thanks folks, you're all the pinnacle of intelligence...
1. Criticisms/suggestions are extremely relevant especially in a game under production.
2. If I want to farm trees and replant forests, that should be my prerogative.
(I am fully aware of how long the ONLY tree's you can farm take to grow. [beech] Obviously you missed the point. It is a mechanic THEY COULD ADD if they wanted to balance farmable fine trees) *also known as A SUGGESTION
*Stay in school
1. Criticisms/suggestions are extremely relevant especially in a game under production.
2. If I want to farm trees and replant forests, that should be my prerogative.
(I am fully aware of how long the ONLY tree's you can farm take to grow. [beech] Obviously you missed the point. It is a mechanic THEY COULD ADD if they wanted to balance farmable fine trees) *also known as A SUGGESTION
*Stay in school
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Greasy Mullet replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:25:12 am PDT
Need some birch and/or oak seeds as fine food is starting to become rare.
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FadeXF replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:31:44 am PDT
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Naewyng replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:32:43 am PDT
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Stinky Meatbag replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:32:50 am PDT
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Tachyon replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:46:33 am PDT
I have read that while trees you plant may look mature, you need to leave them a while longer to get decent amounts of seeds. I have no idea how long the "while" is though.
I just cut down some trees I had forgotten about and it was 2 or 3 fir trees and 4 or 5 beech trees. I got 8 beech seeds and 2 fir cones.
I just cut down some trees I had forgotten about and it was 2 or 3 fir trees and 4 or 5 beech trees. I got 8 beech seeds and 2 fir cones.
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Sythalin replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:48:16 am PDT
Gee thanks folks, you're all the pinnacle of intelligence...
I am fully aware of how long the ONLY tree's you can farm take to grow. [beech]
*Stay in school
Imagine trying to imply intellectual superiority while simultaneously not knowing that there are more tree seeds than Beech.
While I do concur and find myself in accord with the present point that all trees should provide the means by which they can be replicated, you do not need to feel drawn to respond with the mindset of an adolescent by reducing your returns to what can be equivocally summarized as "U ALL DUMDUMS". This is especially true in the event that other actors in the discussion are merely and simply bringing contradistinction and/or rebuttals to the given dilemma that you have expressed your indignation with.
I hope that was enough words of "pinnacle intelligent" for you. Let me know how many words you needed to look up champ, because I didn't need to.
Maybe heed your own advice - stay in school. At least until you get your HS diploma, which I highly advise at his point.
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Tachyon replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:50:12 am PDT
(I am fully aware of how long the ONLY tree's you can farm take to grow. [beech] Obviously you missed the point. It is a mechanic THEY COULD ADD if they wanted to balance farmable fine trees) *also known as A SUGGESTION
*Stay in school
Oh dear, I better not plant these 13 Fir Cones then... Evidently the only tree with seeds is Beech!
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Sythalin replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 9:54:28 am PDT
Oh dear, I better not plant these 13 Fir Cones then... Evidently the only tree with seeds is Beech!My schooling of the OP aside, there is a fair point overall. You can replant for Wood and Core Wood, but you cannot plant for Fine Wood. This should be fixed IMO.
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FadeXF replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 10:04:28 am PDT
Oh dear, I better not plant these 13 Fir Cones then... Evidently the only tree with seeds is Beech!My schooling of the OP aside, there is a fair point overall. You can replant for Wood and Core Wood, but you cannot plant for Fine Wood. This should be fixed IMO.
I disagree - because Oak and Birch - Ancient Wood - and I'm going to assume other wood types later on are all classified as rare and as a rare commodity: they have no method of replenishment.
Even if they did add seeds for them... which I doubt they will as it appears to have been an incredibly deliberate development decision... but even if they do: they add 1 seed for every 50 cut down: it STILL makes sense to use alternative world seeds to farm resources like this if you feel your existing world doesn't have enough of said resources around your bases.
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Tachyon replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 15, 2021 @ 11:37:29 am PDT
Oh dear, I better not plant these 13 Fir Cones then... Evidently the only tree with seeds is Beech!My schooling of the OP aside, there is a fair point overall. You can replant for Wood and Core Wood, but you cannot plant for Fine Wood. This should be fixed IMO.
I just got Pine Cones. Mind you up to now I haven't ever had any. I did fully upgrade the Iron Axe prior to getting but whether that made any difference who only knows. They're there, anyway. :)
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NefariousFox replied to Tree farming [and the ?!?!? with seed drops] February 16, 2021 @ 12:23:36 pm PDT
My schooling of the OP aside, there is a fair point overall. You can replant for Wood and Core Wood, but you cannot plant for Fine Wood. This should be fixed IMO.
I just got Pine Cones. Mind you up to now I haven't ever had any. I did fully upgrade the Iron Axe prior to getting but whether that made any difference who only knows. They're there, anyway. :)
C'mon mang, Fir is NOT a "fine" wood. (Fir would be a better farming wood as it doesn't get stuck on branches when cutting down, and is easier to farm in rows) Beech sucks for that reason.
Pine is ALSO not a "Fine" wood. [It IS however, "Core" wood]
The problem is, that getting seeds from them isn't enough to facilitate actual farming....
The entire point of the whole post...
There are currently no seeds for oak or birch. [The "Fine" woods]
*This is most likely a "balance" decision.
--- As for all the suggestions, I think the only really reasonable one is to farm on separate "seeds" and maintain the resources on the main. (Not that I hadn't already been doing that) ;)
I will try to analyze tree lifespan and seed drop rates next... MAYBE I get lucky and find out that core wood is farmable after a specific period of growing time. Fingers crossed!!!
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