Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff?
Admittedly, I am no expert, but I did a little testing and the wood iron and stone pillars are fairly even in stability. The wood iron were one color level more stable than the stone pillars at around 6 blocks high (dark yellow vs. orange). Honestly, that kinda makes them a waste of iron in my mind. Sure, they are like, 1/8th the width of the stone pillars and might be mildly more aesthetically pleasing, but I don't really ever see a stone building needing to be over 6 pillars high. And if I want a structure to be taller than that, I can just swap to wood for the next floor or two. The fact that wood iron pillars immediately turn green when build on stable flooring, just like stone pillars, puts a real damper on their potential.
I kinda feel like this warrants wood iron poles to receive a buff so they are maybe 2 color levels more stable at the same height rather than only 1. IDK. I just feel like using precious iron should be more beneficial. It could also be possible that there are more stable pillar types in the game that I have not encountered yet (or ones planned in future updates).
What do y'all think? Am I crazy? Do I have a point? Am I doing something wrong during construction?
EDIT: I also, think, though I have not tested it yet, that Core Wood is also more stable than stone at the same height. That means wood iron is in even greater need of a buff it it actually IS on a level with core wood poles, but, again, I haven't tested that yet in a controlled environment.
I kinda feel like this warrants wood iron poles to receive a buff so they are maybe 2 color levels more stable at the same height rather than only 1. IDK. I just feel like using precious iron should be more beneficial. It could also be possible that there are more stable pillar types in the game that I have not encountered yet (or ones planned in future updates).
What do y'all think? Am I crazy? Do I have a point? Am I doing something wrong during construction?
EDIT: I also, think, though I have not tested it yet, that Core Wood is also more stable than stone at the same height. That means wood iron is in even greater need of a buff it it actually IS on a level with core wood poles, but, again, I haven't tested that yet in a controlled environment.
5:13 pm, July 23, 2021
Starwing6 replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 25, 2021 @ 4:23:48 am PDT
I'm also building mostly with stone right now, but have some design elements that require reinforced wood beams for sure. One is a tower for our doorstep and sitting room on the next floor. There's a "keyhole" type of opening between the stones at the front of the tower, then the door to the castle is on the other side of the doorstep. Here's a progress picture to help explain what I mean.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2555156551
The next row I built required support for the stones above the opening. I built a frame to hide the beams inside the stones and keep the stones anchored even though they appear to float above the stairs to the doorstep. This way, I can complete the tower.
The iron beams are useful for building with wood (regular and core wood) and with stone. I don't think they need to be buffed because they are so valuable (as is) to all types of building materials and designs.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2555156551
The next row I built required support for the stones above the opening. I built a frame to hide the beams inside the stones and keep the stones anchored even though they appear to float above the stairs to the doorstep. This way, I can complete the tower.
The iron beams are useful for building with wood (regular and core wood) and with stone. I don't think they need to be buffed because they are so valuable (as is) to all types of building materials and designs.
2:13 pm, July 25, 2021
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jonnin replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 25, 2021 @ 5:11:24 am PDT
the best buff to them would be to give us the exact same thing that used black metal.
2:13 pm, July 25, 2021
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ossmpossm replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 24, 2021 @ 7:49:31 am PDT
Why??? are u making a Warrior? would be scary seeing That Guy run around with a wooden pole
5:13 pm, July 24, 2021
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Weaver replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 24, 2021 @ 8:16:04 am PDT
You need to do some better testing there mate. You're like totally in the dark about how wood iron poles work and just how high they go, and how high they make other things stable. Here is an example (not mine): https://i.redd.it/bhkkj5q6qlk61.jpg
5:13 pm, July 24, 2021
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GunsForBucks replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 24, 2021 @ 5:23:23 am PDT
I was kind of disappointed when I made my first iron wood beam... I would just be happy if it was twice the length. Honestly I don't want to waste the iron on them even if I have some iron to spare. Rather make larger storage boxes... and typically I don't even bother with those.
2:13 pm, July 24, 2021
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Ryzilynt replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 23, 2021 @ 10:57:40 am PDT
Yes but when you attach regular wood how high up can you go on each and still get blue?
8:13 pm, July 23, 2021
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Zethren527 replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 23, 2021 @ 11:04:11 am PDT
I mean, I'm mostly testing for stone structures so I'll admit, regular, fragile wood that takes up to 50% of it's max durability by passively being exposed to the elements, wasn't really my priority when testing. Yes but when you attach regular wood how high up can you go on each and still get blue?
Again, wood iron still SEEMS as though it is technically the strongest, but you'd think refined iron would be stronger than it is compared to other things. I imagine they'll add other, better supports later in development.
8:13 pm, July 23, 2021
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Ryzilynt replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 23, 2021 @ 11:20:02 am PDT
My point is that you can build very high off the ground with wood/iron and still get blue (grounded) connections with standard wood or core. For instance roof pieces are made from regular wood. I once made a three floor castle (counting the roof) (4 if you count the towers) out of only stone and wood/iron. It was massive and had no center supports. A stone floor will work as a roof for the purpose of the “shelter” effect.
Would not be nearly possible without wood/iron
Also wood/iron allows for something like 15 or 16 connections before you no longer build , pretty sure stone will not get you that far. And stone columns cannot be placed horizontally
Would not be nearly possible without wood/iron
Also wood/iron allows for something like 15 or 16 connections before you no longer build , pretty sure stone will not get you that far. And stone columns cannot be placed horizontally
8:13 pm, July 23, 2021
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Zethren527 replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 23, 2021 @ 11:27:54 am PDT
I'll do some more testing in conjunction with core beams to see about supporting stone floors. Obviously, I'll still need to build an actual roof since, last I tried, my workbenches didn't respect stone floor as a "roof". Obviously there is a lot I need to learn and consider in the building system. I'll keep experimenting. Thank you for the tips! My point is that you can build very high off the ground with wood/iron and still get blue (grounded) connections with standard wood or core. For instance roof pieces are made from regular wood. I once made a three floor castle (counting the roof) (4 if you count the towers) out of only stone and wood/iron. It was massive and had no center supports. A stone floor will work as a roof for the purpose of the “shelter” effect.
Would not be nearly possible without wood/iron
Also wood/iron allows for something like 15 or 16 connections before you no longer build , pretty sure stone will not get you that far. And stone columns cannot be placed horizontally
8:13 pm, July 23, 2021
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loppantorkel replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 23, 2021 @ 11:29:19 am PDT
Not sure they need a buff, but, imho, some balancing regarding iron as a building material might be needed. For me black metal and silver is more abundant compared to iron. I can get iron, but it will be a bit of a project/grind. More so than getting black metal or silver, so using iron as a building material isn't prioritised. Using it in poles should perhaps be cheaper, if possible. I've played over 250 hours, done all bosses and built quite a lot, but have yet to use iron poles. They've just not felt worth grinding iron for.
8:13 pm, July 23, 2021
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Adanedhel replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 23, 2021 @ 9:53:51 am PDT
.. What are you talking about?
Iron poles are already the best supports when used in tandem with stone (just make sure they are connected to the ground and not starting from the stone foundation)
Iron poles are already the best supports when used in tandem with stone (just make sure they are connected to the ground and not starting from the stone foundation)
5:13 pm, July 23, 2021
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Zethren527 replied to Do Wood Iron Poles need a buff? July 23, 2021 @ 10:10:41 am PDT
I mean, I did connect them to the ground, but it did not seem to do much. The second pole, which was only slightly higher than the stone floor due to uneven heights of stone floor and wood iron poles, was still green. Might as well just connect it to the floor. If you're saying they NEED to be connected to a stone wall on their way up... that kinda defeats the purpose of them being used as support poles, doesn't it? A support pole that needs to be supported? .. What are you talking about?
Iron poles are already the best supports when used in tandem with stone (just make sure they are connected to the ground and not starting from the stone foundation)
5:13 pm, July 23, 2021
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