Originally posted by Defiant:

To be *extremely clear*, It would be one thing if they hadn't sold well over 10 million copies. So a small indie developer charges $20 for their game, extremely reasonable, and they sell 10 million copies. They made $200,000,000 dollars off this game. That's one fifth of a billion dollars. Split amongst the five person development team, that's forty million dollars per developer.

And it took them two years to put out meaningful content? I'm sorry if I sound "disrespectful" here. Heaven forbid I expect people who make $40,000,000 releasing an "early access" game to actually finish the game in a reasonable amount of time. Heaven forbid.

Now obviously Steam gets a cut, which I think amounts to 25% - 30%, so to be fair they didn't make 40 million dollars each, they made something closer to thirty million dollars each.

edit; Also the 10 million copies record was last April. It's likely well past that now. So yeah, they probably have made 40 million each.

Originally posted by Hayzᶓ ™:

but we have a right to speak.

Originally posted by Noelle:

Originally posted by Hayzᶓ ™:

but we have a right to speak.

"""right to speak"""

Mate, the First Amendment's only purpose is to codify that it is not illegal to speak. This is still a privately owned and operated service and you are being shown the door.

Originally posted by PainTenanCe:

What the devs earned with this game is absolutely not of our concern.

Originally posted by zenebatos1:

...STeam Mods ARE NOT part of the Iron gates studio...

So if a Steam Mod touched you where its a No-No zone, it ain't the devs fault...

Also, if you haven't got a clue on how game developement works, don't try to sound smart please...

Originally posted by Defiant:

Except we're not, right? What, a handful of trolls get to strip the rest of us of our legitimate complaints?

You ask us to be respectful, but you strip us of our voices because of actions other people take? So I'm being punished for someone elses behaviour? I view that as extremely disrespectful.

Maybe, you know, remove the people who are disrespectful and let the rest of us give our legitimate criticism?

Unless it actually has nothing to do with respect and is just an excuse to remove negative feedback on your game-- which I wouldn't even blame you for, it's your business, why allow people to give negative feedback on your own platforms? Well, one reason would be so that your userbase actually trusts you and thinks that you respect us enough to hear the bad with the good.

Anyways, it's definitely the latter. We have the ability to ban people from community discussions here. You could have simply banned or silenced those causing problems. Instead you punished every single one of your customers.

To be clear, I was in that thread and I was negative. I should have every right to be. Unless this is Saudi Arabia or something where they silence people. And in saying this, I'm likely guilty of being "disrespectful" in their eyes, when in reality I'm accurately assessing the situation. If you don't want to be compared to countries that censor and treat people like garbage, don't censor and treat people like garbage. If you want our respect, well, it's a two way street-- but I know this has nothing to do with respect and *everything* to do with damage control.

Again to be clear, I have not insulted anyone here, I have not said any swear words. I'd bet money this thread still gets removed for some nonsense reason. So please, have the respect to not treat us like idiots. Just tell us that this is your platform, your game, your business, and your right to silence negative opinions. Because that's the reality of things. Dressing it up as anything else is disrespectful.

I also distinctly remember two or three people in that thread who were basically shrieking at anyone who dared to question the Valheim developers. They were starting fights with people. The people who were giving negative feedback were pretty much just giving their legitimate feedback. It was the people supporting Valheim that were being toxic from what I saw. Were they muted or silenced? Of course not.

I love Valheim and I want it to succeed. I still have negative criticism though. If you can't deal with the criticism of people who genuinely love your products then you don't deserve people who genuinely love your products.

Refusing to hire more staff to finish your game or fulfil your promises? Choosing not to do that is disrespectful to the millions of people who bought your game and likely made everyone involved with Valheim far more rich than they ever expected. Choosing to pocket that money and continue development at a snails pace with the only real content now being released nearly two years later? I mean let's be real, there were two roadmaps both of which ended up being scrapped? Whatever happened to sticking to your word, or at least attempting to stick to it... Repeatedly breaking promises because you refuse to spend the money we gave you to finish an early access title? It's disrespectful.

So please, don't try to lecture us about respect... We're paying customers who bought into an early access title with yet another developer that refuses to bring their game out of early access in a reasonable amount of time.

Originally posted by Defiant:

To be *extremely clear*, It would be one thing if they hadn't sold well over 10 million copies. So a small indie developer charges $20 for their game, extremely reasonable, and they sell 10 million copies. They made $200,000,000 dollars off this game. That's one fifth of a billion dollars. Split amongst the five person development team, that's forty million dollars per developer.

And it took them two years to put out meaningful content? I'm sorry if I sound "disrespectful" here. Heaven forbid I expect people who make $40,000,000 releasing an "early access" game to actually finish the game in a reasonable amount of time. Heaven forbid.

Now obviously Steam gets a cut, which I think amounts to 25% - 30%, so to be fair they didn't make 40 million dollars each, they made something closer to thirty million dollars each.

edit; Also the 10 million copies record was last April. It's likely well past that now. So yeah, they probably have made 40 million each.