Block and jump. Not sure why that's so hard.

Originally posted by Nomadic:

Block and jump. Not sure why that's so hard.

Block + Space + Direction = 3 Keys. I'm having trouble dodging, too. Everything else works fine for me.

E.g. Alt + direction for dodgeing would be easier imo. Most actions can be rebound, so why not this one?

Op is right, dodge key is wierdo

Originally posted by Tamm:

Op is right, dodge key is wierdo

OP's opinion is subjective.

Fixed that for you.

Originally posted by Thjof:

Originally posted by Nomadic:

Block and jump. Not sure why that's so hard.

Block + Space + Direction = 3 Keys. I'm having trouble dodging, too. Everything else works fine for me.

E.g. Alt + direction for dodgeing would be easier imo. Most actions can be rebound, so why not this one?

I agree that in general it should be able to be rebound, but not for the reason you say.

I just threw "block + space" on my mouse thumb button as a macro. Might be an option for you.

Originally posted by Nomadic:

Block and jump. Not sure why that's so hard.

They are not asking how to dodge, they are asking for it to be a separate control.
Just read the title, not sure why that is so hard.

Totally agree OP! It's such a clunky system they've implemented.

Definitely going to try the macro solution though.

Originally posted by Sile:

Totally agree OP! It's such a clunky system they've implemented.

Definitely going to try the macro solution though.

It's not clunky. You're blocking the enemy which forces you to face them while you're moving around them. Then, you dodge while you're moving naturally. That's.. not clunky. It's fine to not like it, but don't mislabel it.

I don't like it either OP....when I first realized I have to be blocking in order to dodge when I want to I asked myself, "of the hundreds of game's I own on Steam how many do I have to block if I want to dodge?".....The answer is ONE, this game....which then begs the question, why?

It's clunky af that you can't simply just run/dodge when you choose to. Yes, I understand that it's "not a big deal when you're in combat turtling and circling an enemy", but it makes any other situation of dodging clucky.

I find the default bind very practical. You always circle the enemy and hold block when fighting anyway, so that's just 1 key to press

I'm indifferent to the control, but it makes blocking preferable, which might be the intent. Guess if it isn't the devs will change it at some point.

The problem is, what is the alternative?
It has to be a minimum of two keys at once, because you have to choose a direction to dodge. So what should the second key be?
Something like F or E is no good because pressing D at the same time is not practical. The only keys which are suited to being pressed at the same time as WASD are SHIFT, CTRL and SPACE. All of which are already used. So sadly the game's solution may not be ideal but what is the alternative?
In Dark Souls games, you jump by clicking the left analogue stick, this is a horrible method.
Of all the buttons on a controller, that is the worst one to use for jump. However when you go to bindings options, to change it, you realise that there is no alternative. All other buttons are used, and more suited for something else. It is unfortunately both the worst and only option.

Originally posted by Shoddyfrog:

The problem is, what is the alternative?
It has to be a minimum of two keys at once, because you have to choose a direction to dodge. So what should the second key be?
Something like F or E is no good because pressing D at the same time is not practical. The only keys which are suited to being pressed at the same time as WASD are SHIFT, CTRL and SPACE. All of which are already used. So sadly the game's solution may not be ideal but what is the alternative?
In Dark Souls games, you jump by clicking the left analogue stick, this is a horrible method.
Of all the buttons on a controller, that is the worst one to use for jump. However when you go to bindings options, to change it, you realise that there is no alternative. All other buttons are used, and more suited for something else. It is unfortunately both the worst and only option.

CTRL is used for sneaking, but that could be easily rebound to something else. You don't need to start sneaking in combat. Or let us sneak after 1 second, and use CTRL + <direction> to dodge. And you didn't mention ALT.

This. Having to use two keys is a relic of early 2000s game design.