Originally posted by Mharr:

Oh, it's this thread again. The one that thinks 'code happens faster' is a thing you can just *buy*.

Well, to be fair, coding may not happen faster, but with hundreds of millions in profits one would think they could extensively expand their team and invest in new office space and hardware to get things developed faster. For example, by simultaneously developing several things at once


I'm all for being patient and give developers time to properly develop and test their ideas, however, 1 year for 1 patch that 'only' offers additional build pieces is perhaps stretching it

Originally posted by PrettyBoy:

Im quite confused, the game was a hit and they got a serious influx of money. We were going to start playin again a few friends but even after a few months there seem to be no serious releases/updates ? Is the game just dying out ?

Nahh the devs took you cash and quit...

... wait they are still developing the game, they used the cash to hire on, it takes time for the new guys to catch up.

Nahh its more logical they just screwed you and stole your cash.

Originally posted by Turbo Torben:

Well, to be fair, coding may not happen faster, but with hundreds of millions in profits one would think they could extensively expand their team and invest in new office space and hardware to get things developed faster. For example, by simultaneously developing several things at once

I'm all for being patient and give developers time to properly develop and test their ideas, however, 1 year for 1 patch that 'only' offers additional build pieces is perhaps stretching it

You can't just immediately 'invest in new office space', fill it out with new developers, and expect them to start pumping out code immediately for something like a game that's already out the door.

In fact, bringing new developers into an existing project can actually slow development down, since those new developers will need to be trained by the existing developers and have their work QA'd by them.

You can't just hire someone to do QA immediately either, since that person will *also* need training before they can be effective at their job. Software development isn't something you can just thoughtlessly throw bodies and money at unless you want a bad product.

This is an indie project that went viral. They hit the business equivalent of winning the lottery. For any small studio that became an overnight sensation, dealing with the sudden success and readjusting the studio in order to meet the new challenges they face would absolutely a year-long process in any event.

Originally posted by glittershit:

starting to feel like they might've abandoned the game

Last update was 2 weeks ago. Yeah totally abandoned the game like you totally abandoned your brain.

Valheim devs simply need to take the Terraria course and figure out that Valheim works the best when it progresses in a linear fashion. If Terraria devs ( who had day jobs, whose game was very much a passion project at one point) managed to churn out a content rich update every so often, so can they.

I loved Valheim the first time. Liked it a second time, dropped it the third time. We all just have to wait for the new update to hit so we can play again, hopefully it won't take too long.

While I do hope they finish the game the bottom line for me is that it only cost me $20. I have played it enough at this point, and will continue playing it, that if they should abandon it (which I sincerely doubt) I feel have gotten more than my moneys worth. Now to answer your question. I would hope you had fun playing while you did so I will say to have fun again. If however you did not have fun when you previously played then you probably want to move to another game.

Originally posted by Turbo Torben:

Originally posted by Mharr:

Oh, it's this thread again. The one that thinks 'code happens faster' is a thing you can just *buy*.

Well, to be fair, coding may not happen faster, but with hundreds of millions in profits one would think they could extensively expand their team and invest in new office space and hardware to get things developed faster. For example, by simultaneously developing several things at once


I'm all for being patient and give developers time to properly develop and test their ideas, however, 1 year for 1 patch that 'only' offers additional build pieces is perhaps stretching it

I just got started in this game, so I'm FAR from a fanboy, but I can't help but weigh in on this. I'm new to THIS game but have been gaming for a VERY long time, and used to do some programming.

First off, the GAME may have made hundreds of millions, that does NOT mean the DEVS did, you apparently mistakenly think (a VERY common fallacy) that the money goes directly to the DEVS.

Far from it. The smaller Studios (like this one) actually receive only a tiny fraction of the money because of their contracts with Steam, Epic, etc. as well as any Agents or Backers who probably own more of the game than the Devs do. It's more along the line of now they can get two pizzas a week instead of monthly. Games like this are a labor of love.

Next, lets talk about time and coding. A game developer can't just "buy office space and hire some people" if they get a chunk of money. You obviously have never actually run a business, and know little about the gaming development world.

For one thing, hiring additional programmers isn't like going to the store and picking up some milk. First they have to compete with giant gaming corporations that snap up the good coders with WAY deeper pockets than they have. Next, they have to find people that actually "click" with them. Small studios are almost a family. The new hire must blend on a personal level as well as be good at what's needed; Art, Game Play, Code Optimization, Music, on and on.

THEN if they DO find someone, they must get them up to speed on the game. That means they first need hundreds of hours of game play time as well as countless hours getting familiar with the code behind it. How can you fix a wonky skeleton if you don't even know where they live?

All of this takes time, money, more time, more money and LOTS of patience on the team's part.

Throwing money at a game doesn't enable the Devs to snap their fingers and fix this EARLY ACCESS game, so chill dude. It's a bloody complex process.

Originally posted by PrettyBoy:

How long do you think 1 bio should take ?

How long do you think it should take? I'm sure I could throw a dozen or so assets together and get one out in a day or two, but it'd be pretty crap...

If you feel betrayed or negative about buying into a game that isn't being updated fast enough... why did you buy EA? They literally can just take the money and run, there is nothing really stopping them from abandoning the game, it's the risk of EA.

If you think they can just expand the team and buy new offices... that's great! Go ask the devs of Kingdoms of Amalur how that approach works! That dev team had that same exact approach, cut quality and went under in record pace. Simply expanding doesn't do anything, it just cuts into profits and those devs will often slow the whole process down. It's a "too many cooks" situation.

You can't just throw money at the game and make it go faster. Whether they made 200 million or 200 from the game, it doesn't mean they can go 1000x faster simply because they have 1000x the money. It's a balance that the devs need to find.

I wish it was going faster too, but I also don't want them to compromise their vision for the game.

starting to feel like they might've abandoned the game

Oh, it's this thread again. The one that thinks 'code happens faster' is a thing you can just *buy*.

I feel compelled to post this.

The developers of Valheim have day jobs. Valheim is a passion project. There aren't that many of them. When people type 'EA', which annoys me, it doesn't stand for Electronic Arts, The horrid atrocity publisher/developer company, it stands for Early Access.

These guys haven't taken your money and run. Valheim isn't vaporware. They give a ♥♥♥♥ about Valheim because it's their personal project. They already have the money, so why bother with roadmaps, patches, and updates?

Was there a reason you quit playing?

@Shaftalmighty

Look, there are 300 k reviews. How many copies have been sold ? 10 mill (guessing).

That would be 200 mill dollars.
How is a "day job" any excuse for not popping out a new bio in closing in on a year ?

Im starting to feel insulted having trusted in this being updated and bought in. How long do you think 1 bio should take ?

Fanboying and supporting is fine, but this is rather ridicilous. I would be asking for a refund if it was possible. (and ill send in the request, just so its logged, i know its not possible at this point)

A biography? You want a life story or something?

Originally posted by PrettyBoy:

Im quite confused, the game was a hit and they got a serious influx of money. We were going to start playin again a few friends but even after a few months there seem to be no serious releases/updates ? Is the game just dying out ?

nope,the devs are on it. just give them the time to get things good
seen too much fast dropping devs where the game died because all the devs could make
are reskinned things selling em for a few bucks
(techically selling the same thing over and over)

the devs made a nice video about whats going on (Valheim Fireside chat)