Missing block

Mentioning this because I've never seen it before and unity was updated in the last patch so... came back from a trip today and found a block missing from the middle of the curtain wall around my fortress. It wasn't a display bug: the block wasn't there. It was a 4x2 stone block. None of the blocks around it was damaged and there was no dropped stone nearby so it doesn't seem like a random troll popped up while I was gone and took out that one block in the middle of the wall. It was just... gone.
6:13 pm, November 9, 2021
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Markbnj replied to Missing block November 15, 2021 @ 8:09:25 am PST

Originally posted by Estyn:
I've had this happen before on both stone and wood structures. There seems to be no discernable reason for the single piece to collapse... fully supported, proper alignment/snapping, etc. Go away for a fairly lengthy period, come back, that lone piece will be broken again, even though everything else is fine.

Perhaps there is some internal non-visible issue like an old landscape artifact, invisible rock, etc or something that's interfering. I've never been able to solve it.
Yeah I suspect the same, or some internal data structure gets into an inconsistent state. I replaced the single 4x2 with four 2x1s, and it hasn't happened again since. If it does I'll mention it here.
6:13 pm, November 15, 2021
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Estyn replied to Missing block November 15, 2021 @ 4:27:48 am PST

I've had this happen before on both stone and wood structures. There seems to be no discernable reason for the single piece to collapse... fully supported, proper alignment/snapping, etc. Go away for a fairly lengthy period, come back, that lone piece will be broken again, even though everything else is fine.

Perhaps there is some internal non-visible issue like an old landscape artifact, invisible rock, etc or something that's interfering. I've never been able to solve it.
3:13 pm, November 15, 2021
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Markbnj replied to Missing block November 13, 2021 @ 11:05:19 am PST

So this has happened two or three more times to the same block. It's the only block that this has happened to. On the last occurrence it actually dropped the 6 stone. None of the other occasions resulted in any stone being dropped. The block that is disappearing/destructing is in green stability, The blocks on either side are green, and the row of blocks it is sitting on are in direct terrain contact and are blue. I'm going to try replacing the single 4x2 with a couple of smaller blocks and see what results.
12:13 am, November 14, 2021
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Gerald of Rivia replied to Missing block November 10, 2021 @ 10:07:30 am PST

it's the Enderman it's his hobby!
3:13 am, November 11, 2021
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Mharr replied to Missing block November 10, 2021 @ 1:10:49 pm PST

Is it possible that a block just on the edge of stability loaded in before its supporting neighbours?
9:13 pm, November 10, 2021
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Markbnj replied to Missing block November 10, 2021 @ 10:03:23 am PST

Thanks, I'll check that block's stability. It's only one row up from terrain so it should be solid. Also when blocks are destroyed by instability isn't the stone always dropped? I didn't see any dropped stone.
6:13 pm, November 10, 2021
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Upyron replied to Missing block November 10, 2021 @ 10:07:30 am PST

it's the Enderman it's his hobby!
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Drummerzone replied to Missing block November 9, 2021 @ 2:19:35 pm PST

happened to a base i made once. i finished my base (more like a house), and next time i went to visit it, a few months later, the base was unfinished, roof not done, only one room was finished, and all my carts with resources were there, almost like it just stopped saving at some point and reverted back to a prior time while i was constructing it. i never finished it after that.
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jonnin replied to Missing block November 9, 2021 @ 2:32:14 pm PST

this has happened to me twice. Both times, it turned out that the offending block was, somehow, unstable (red) and was destroying itself after a fairly long delay. Something in the computations determined that one was bad (I had like 5 more blocks high on everything around them, in both cases). Try embedding a larger block into its neighbors to improve support when you fix it. That has worked for me on these. It seems like a rare bug, possibly some sort of floating point roundoff or similar numerical issue that caused an incorrect stability calculation.
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Muscles replied to Missing block November 9, 2021 @ 11:24:40 am PST

Happened to me as well. It happened to pieces that were in yellow to orange stability, which is annoying because they should only collapse when in the red. I braced up my building with wood iron poles and it fixed the problem.
9:13 pm, November 9, 2021
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