where are you building i've personally never needed a trench bu i would say from my friends as examples that taller en the player normally works t for trolls maybe add a spike wall to the top

I would recommend 4 meters wide and 2+ meters deep at least. Trolls can still smack with a log across a 4 meter trench so keep that in mind as well with how you build your outer walls and defenses.

another tip that might be handy, keey an air gap between any stairs/walkway and the inside edge of your trench. Other than blobs and related most mobs can't jump at all and even a small air gap It will prevent the mob's AI from being able to plot a path to you or even get to you if the can see you.

I use a single 2 meter wood beam on the inside edge of my trench as a spacer and build the walk way off it until it reaches the outer edge. Then I break the wood beam, the resulting air gap is small enough to walk over but enough to break the mob's pathing AI.

The only mobs that you will need to worry about with agood trench around your homestead will be Trolls throwing rocks, Drakes flying over it, and Blobs jumping it if you don't have a good wall as well. And it's a good idea to upgrade your outer walsl to stone as soon as you unlock the stonecutter so save all that stone you get.

I would say 1000 meters
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2621437393

Ok serious
* Troll log =? 5m
* Troll thrown Rock =? 20m
* Wraith =? 100m
* Deathquito =? 200m

Originally posted by Yakumo_2020:

I would recommend 4 meters wide and 2+ meters deep at least. Trolls can still smack with a log across a 4 meter trench so keep that in mind as well with how you build your outer walls and defenses.

another tip that might be handy, keey an air gap between any stairs/walkway and the inside edge of your trench. Other than blobs and related most mobs can't jump at all and even a small air gap It will prevent the mob's AI from being able to plot a path to you or even get to you if the can see you.

I use a single 2 meter wood beam on the inside edge of my trench as a spacer and build the walk way off it until it reaches the outer edge. Then I break the wood beam, the resulting air gap is small enough to walk over but enough to break the mob's pathing AI.

The only mobs that you will need to worry about with agood trench around your homestead will be Trolls throwing rocks, Drakes flying over it, and Blobs jumping it if you don't have a good wall as well. And it's a good idea to upgrade your outer walsl to stone as soon as you unlock the stonecutter so save all that stone you get.

Awesome info thanks. I am 2 meters wide now and I hit the water line- about 6 swings down. Its deep. Want to tap into the lake maybe later, but its a ways off. I built 8 meter high ramps that I jump across at this point wither side. I'm sure the far one will get destroyed. Only killed the 1st boss so I don't need to worry for a while. I watched a video of these giant blue things throwing stuff and thought I better quit sitting on my arse.

@Nameless That island setup is perfect. I just realized maybe I could raise ground to make one small enough. Not sure cause I might drown since I don't swim well yet. I think I need 2 bases anyway so never too early to plan.

If you want to terraform a Island make a backup of your savegame. terrforming under water /along the water can break the waterface,

While over kill... like heavy heavy overkill... this is the system I use for my walls.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2616553274
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2621478941
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2621479044

The wood is mostly decoration and to stop pathing onto the lip.. but between the ditch, the lip and the earthwork it is about 6m-8m wide on the outside. The Ditch should be shallow enough to hit a Greydwarf but wide enough a troll can't step over it.

The system is highly scaleable. I've never had to deal with a blob so I can't saw if they can jump up. Trolls can damage the outside but shouldn't be able to hurt much as long as you deal with any stragglers.

My current base is 50-60m wide inside. (which makes it smaller than most historic example... but I'm just one person... I don't need a 120-150m fort/castle) This is not my current one. This is a starter base that is about 30m Diameter

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2607585103