Originally posted by GunsForBucks:

OK just to ignore everyone who seems confused about shore damage....

This is behavior that happens in vanilla at open sea, and has forever. It occurs during world saves and is well-known. Don't confuse the OP. You've been around long enough that you should know about this.

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

If the boat is over dirt it won't take damage. If there is a rock (even a hidden one), stump, log or other object under the boat it will. My Karve has been parked for over 500 game days on the beach (I've been using a longboat instead) and still doesn't need repairs. I do the same thing with my long boat in the plains. Its parked on an open beach with no obstructions as I wander around and kill fulings. I put the black metal scrap in the ship and then portal back to my base. The boat will sit for 3 or 4 game weeks before I accumulate enough ore to make it worth sailing back to my main base. As long as there are no objects under the boat it takes no damage and does not need repair.

This, very much this. If you make a good mooring spot for your boat, it won't take damage from the environment (boats are rooted on X and Y axis when no one is on them, even during a storm) and if you protect it from greylings, it will never take any damage whatsoever.

Sailing the sea the boat is intended to take periodic damage because they are not infinite range exploration vessels.

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Sailing the sea the boat is intended to take periodic damage because they are not infinite range exploration vessels.

It takes damage during the world saves while sailing. That doesn't seem intentional at all. Also, OP was talking specifically about this, not about parking the boat somewhere safe.

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Sailing the sea the boat is intended to take periodic damage because they are not infinite range exploration vessels.

This is not true at all.

The boats are intended to take fall damage for when seas are really stormy, you are likely to be lifted high on top of a wave crest.. and the water drops from beneath you if you go straight into the wave. It teaches you that you have to angle against the wave, cresting with a lateral sway to roll over the large storm crests to avoid fall damage.

It is not 'because boats are supposed to break' after some automatic countdown of structural integrity.

1) Boats only take fall damage or collision damage when there is a player in the boat. You can leave it unattended, and it can bounce off the shore forever and not take damage. <- tested and true.

2) The game has inherent lag. Lag creates mini-collisions for fall damage on a dynamic surface (water). <- tested and true.

3) The smaller boats have smaller surface area, and thus are less likely to register as being 'in contact' with the water. <- untested, so feel free to refute this claim. The test should look at side by side data in a simultaneous trial, looking for frequency of collisions.

So the game lags when the game saves.
It lags when on a hosted server (and you are not the host).
I have not experienced any lag from resource rendering (such as large quantities of spawns, i.e. The Elder particle effects, topped with greydwarf spawners)

When sailing, you will be cresting small waves constantly (water has ripples). When the game lags, the server thinks your boat is briefly not in contact with the water, and so it tells your game file that your boat has fallen. You may not even see the lag, because your system buffers the animations. Still, your game registers this unseen lag as a fall collision with the water's surface, and you see the boat take a hit.

Yep, it's dumb. What can we do?

On a hosted server, there is not currently any work-around. It is an issue with member ping to host server.

On a private server, after the next update you should be able to choose how often the game auto-saves the world. You should therefore be able to turn off autosaves while sailing, as a work-around to this laggy dinghy fall damage.

Yep, that's a good name for a mashup video.

Laggy dinghy fall damage.

Originally posted by sarteck:

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Sailing the sea the boat is intended to take periodic damage because they are not infinite range exploration vessels.

It takes damage during the world saves while sailing. That doesn't seem intentional at all. Also, OP was talking specifically about this, not about parking the boat somewhere safe.

It takes damage without saving too.

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Originally posted by sarteck:

It takes damage during the world saves while sailing. That doesn't seem intentional at all. Also, OP was talking specifically about this, not about parking the boat somewhere safe.

It takes damage without saving too.

Indeed it does. That's not what the OP was asking about.

Originally posted by sarteck:

Originally posted by GunsForBucks:

OK just to ignore everyone who seems confused about shore damage....

This is behavior that happens in vanilla at open sea, and has forever. It occurs during world saves and is well-known. Don't confuse the OP. You've been around long enough that you should know about this.

I wasn't trying to deny anything just define the OPs issues.

I have seen open seas boat taking damage but normally only during storms/high winds and hitting waves. Sometimes a boat might just be buggy, possibly due to where it was built.. who knows.

All I meant by that statement was that the OP was specifically asking about during saves and that, to me, seemed to mean open water while sailing clear.

To that end I just wanted the OP to check things out and define the issue a bit more for clarity. I was not trying to dismiss the issue at all.

OK just to ignore everyone who seems confused about shore damage....

@OP
Are you saying that out to sea just during a save pause that the boat takes some mysterious damage from nothing?


If so then you should try a file verify
Library
with game off
right click game name for Properties
Local files
Verify

Are you playing on a server or solo?

Are you playing in a modded game?
Have you ever used mods even if you don't use them now?

How to reproduce and see damage...

devcommands
debugmode
spawn a boat in the water ((not in a lake or river, but connected to ocean)

f5
sleep

You can now watch the boat going up and down in the waves, and occasionally taking damage from the speed up time that happens when you are sleeping.

If the boat is over dirt it won't take damage. If there is a rock (even a hidden one), stump, log or other object under the boat it will. My Karve has been parked for over 500 game days on the beach (I've been using a longboat instead) and still doesn't need repairs. I do the same thing with my long boat in the plains. Its parked on an open beach with no obstructions as I wander around and kill fulings. I put the black metal scrap in the ship and then portal back to my base. The boat will sit for 3 or 4 game weeks before I accumulate enough ore to make it worth sailing back to my main base. As long as there are no objects under the boat it takes no damage and does not need repair.

what do you mean by this is a known but and repeatable?

Originally posted by Windsor:

what do you mean by this is a known but and repeatable?

Not entirely sure and I don’t believe it’s a bug but if you leave your boat where there are waves it can hit the beach and damage itself so make sure you put it somewhere where it’s not likely to hit anything.

i don't leave my boat in the water if i am not in it. I am saying that when the save occurs the boat gets damaged. someone mentioned that it could be from a lag in the server IDK

Waves also cause damage when you are sleeping and your boat, although not moving is going up and down and getting slammed.

This is a known bug and easily repeatable.

Waves sometimes cause damage due to lag when you are playing on a server. That doesn't happen when you are playing off server single player.