The Feather cape.

This item is truly amazing. I was having a hard time going through mistland biomes until i was able to craft this. Which makes me think, shouldn't this be made available earlier? I mean not before you get to the mist, but maybe something you can make early on without the need for the sap stuff? I feel like it's such an integral part to exploring the Mistlands.
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archelonian replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 4:26:11 pm PST

You don't need the feather fall cape to explore the mistlands at all, unlocking it did not increase accessibility. Jumping off mountains is awesome but enemies generally spawn in the valleys not in the peaks so nothing should be launching you off them (unlike in the mountain biome where golems potentially could). You can 100% traverse down all the mountains in the mistlands without taking notable fall damage, just walk against the slope on the descent and look for areas that are at least marginally sloped (most areas are just barely sloped enough so that you can sprint jump up them, and thus safely slide down).
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Ai replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 2:25:11 pm PST

All great ideals, the potion honestly would fit best I believe though. And would make life a lot easier when starting out in mistlands.
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DeMasked replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 3:16:13 pm PST

Feather Cape being locked behind certain items is one of my annoyances with mistlands.

Imo a Gjall item drop would work or a potion that includes jotun puffs perhaps or the mage caps. Also the one new stamina potion should make jumping take less stamina.
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Soulstinger replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 3:54:24 pm PST

Having essentially all the gear trapped at the very end of the resource progression is brutal especially considering that most of the armor and weapons are very, very marginal upgrades over the existing plains gear.

I still carry the root harnesk and frostner for dealing with Seekers, over all the lvl 2 Mistlands gear anyway, they are that un-impressive. (stats weise)
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DeMasked replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 3:58:41 pm PST

Originally posted by Soulstinger:
I still carry the root harnesk and frostner for dealing with Seekers, over all the lvl 2 Mistlands gear anyway, they are that un-impressive. (stats weise)

Lol same. Padded helm, leggings, root harnsek for pierce resist, frostner for slow and the drauger fang for the times I need ranged. I only made 3 of the new items due to lack of resources and interest in finding more mistlands to stumble around in. The upgrade to Iron Sledge was super useful.
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qwerm replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 4:24:35 am PST

Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Little too easy IMO. Needs to have at least one mistlands ingredient, probably royal jelly instead of honey, and maybe even sap. The upcoming patch is going to reduce difficulty already, both in and out of mist.

The problem with this logic is that the example set by previous biomes saw you getting access to potions using pre-biome ingredients; the poison resistance mead for the swamp only needs honey, thistle, coal, and a neck tail while the cold resistance mead only requires honey, Thistle, bloodbags, and a grey dwarf eye.

Based off this premise, I could definitely see potential precedent for a feather fall potion having been available using plains tier materials and below.

Even then, poison resistance meads aren't really ever replaced; though later on you gain enough armour and quality food that you can often ignore the DoT outside of the bonemass fight and growths.

In this manner I would argue that access to a feather fall potion would have been an excellent intermediary between early exploration into the mistlands and when you can replace them entirely with a a craftable equipment that does the job passively.
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HangarPilot replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 4:40:21 am PST

Originally posted by Rhapsody:
Well I don't know how you progressed, but it's essentially the same thing with the frost resistance capes from the mountains or plains. You still need to find a bunch of soft tissue and probably more extractors so you get enough material for all the gear and food. It's just a matter of prioritization to me.

You enter the mountains with the frost resistance potions available so you actually don't even need a cape if you want to keep making potions. Even so, as soon as you've mined just a hint of silver and killed the wolves that sound attracted, you can make a cape or wolf armor chest piece. It comes relatively quickly. I generally have one or the other built before I've used 4 frost potions.

By locking the cape so far down the tree you have to:
-Find enough mines for 5-15 cores. You can get by with just 5 if you want to keep building and taking apart the black forge, refinery, and galdr table. But I would suggest "normal progression" is to build each in turn. That, in and of itself, is quite a lot of work.
-Get the extractor needle from the dvergr.
-Farm and refine the sap.

By the time I had 15 cores (about 6 mines), I had all 9 fragments I needed and enough resources to build everything ... except the refined eitr. I was now essentially "done" in the mistlands. Now I'm just popping in each day just to collect my sap then back home to refine it and build gear.

With everything built, I head off to the boss. Two playthroughs now and that was my experience each time ... by the time I'm refining eitr and can finally build something useful, I'm done in the mistalnds.

I get what you're saying, I could have prioritized the cape or eitr in general sooner ... but then I have to build the table to repair the cape, then rebuild forge to repair weapons, then rebuild the refinery to continue refining .... ugh.
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HangarPilot replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 4:43:26 am PST

Originally posted by qwerm:
In this manner I would argue that access to a feather fall potion would have been an excellent intermediary between early exploration into the mistlands and when you can replace them entirely with a a craftable equipment that does the job passively.

I like that idea. That would be an excellent compromise and you're right ... that would put it on par with the frost resistance potion allowing you to get a foothold in the biome.
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Rhapsody replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 4:46:45 am PST

You can't explore the mountains at all without frost resistance or having to spam campfires everywhere, that's why frost resistance mead is made timely available. It also has additional use in reducing frost damage. Can't say that about mistlands and feather fall.

Originally posted by HangarPilot:
You can get by with just 5 if you want to keep building and taking apart the black forge, refinery, and galdr table. But I would suggest "normal progression" is to build each in turn. That, in and of itself, is quite a lot of work.

Nothing abnormal about this, it's what those of us who tried the game before surtling core spawns were increased in burial chambers did.
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Trakehner replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 5:13:54 am PST

Originally posted by Ai:
This item is truly amazing. I was having a hard time going through mistland biomes until i was able to craft this. Which makes me think, shouldn't this be made available earlier? I mean not before you get to the mist, but maybe something you can make early on without the need for the sap stuff? I feel like it's such an integral part to exploring the Mistlands.
That’s why you can switch between worlds and/or characters.
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coolAlias replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 9:14:59 am PST

Originally posted by Rhapsody:
You can't explore the mountains at all without frost resistance or having to spam campfires everywhere, that's why frost resistance mead is made timely available. It also has additional use in reducing frost damage. Can't say that about mistlands and feather fall.
One other nice thing about having a potion of feather fall is it would allow us to wear the cape of our choice and still be able to manage the Mistlands effectively - right now, the feather cape is really the only one worth wearing.
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Rhapsody replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 9:21:48 am PST

Originally posted by coolAlias:
Originally posted by Rhapsody:
You can't explore the mountains at all without frost resistance or having to spam campfires everywhere, that's why frost resistance mead is made timely available. It also has additional use in reducing frost damage. Can't say that about mistlands and feather fall.
One other nice thing about having a potion of feather fall is it would allow us to wear the cape of our choice and still be able to manage the Mistlands effectively - right now, the feather cape is really the only one worth wearing.

That's something I think of as part of a bigger problem with capes, gear and sets as a whole. I do think that feather fall should be available in the game through some other source as well, but not earlier than mistlands in a common form.

It could perhaps be available as part of a Forsaken power. Eikthyr's power should have a small variation of the effect (so you don't self-damage yourself just by jumping and running so often), and possibly with Moder's power. The power from new has dual purpose, so I think it wouldn't be terrible if some of the existing ones did too.
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HangarPilot replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 3:19:39 am PST

Agree.

Almost everything requires refined eitr which poses the problem of not earning "mistlands gear" until you've essentially completed the Mistlands.

This would be much more useful if it was unlocked with the Black Forge and if the recipe didn't require refined eitr.
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Empada replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 3:34:44 am PST

other option is make a potion of feather fall. All biomes have a potion: poison for the swamps, freezing for the mountain. having a potion using honey, feathers, cloudberry and barley would be a good middle ground. It would help a lot for building tall structures before entering the mistlands
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Rhapsody replied to The Feather cape. December 18, 2022 @ 4:01:50 am PST

Well I don't know how you progressed, but it's essentially the same thing with the frost resistance capes from the mountains or plains. You still need to find a bunch of soft tissue and probably more extractors so you get enough material for all the gear and food. It's just a matter of prioritization to me.

Originally posted by Empada:
having a potion using honey, feathers, cloudberry and barley would be a good middle ground.

Little too easy IMO. Needs to have at least one mistlands ingredient, probably royal jelly instead of honey, and maybe even sap. The upcoming patch is going to reduce difficulty already, both in and out of mist.
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