Originally posted by Jitatha:

anyway
look at this

Thanks for the shout-out! I'm so proud of my bridge lol

I was frustrated with building at first but YT videos and perusing screenshots inspired me to keep trying and I'm honestly having such a blast with it now. It's still annoying sometimes getting the right angle for things to snap, but I like to hope the devs will eventually implement a proper build mode with a camera view that allows us to ghost through stuff.

Originally posted by Cobretti:

Originally posted by >< V ><:

I think it's one of the best video game building systems I've ever played. Clipping allows one to be very creative. I like the creativity aspect. When I want realism, I go outside.

It's a good building system but it either allows to build without any laws of physics applied or it allows you to build supports to work with those laws of physics. The building system does neither and therefore limits the builder.

Tone down the fanboism, OP's comments are how games get better, if we all sat around saying "this game is 1000% pefect omgggggg" then nothing would get improved.

Enjoying what I enjoy and simply stating that in a reasonable way is not fanboism, nor did I suggest in any way that the building system is 1000% perfect. Please represent my position fairly as I will strive to do the same for you.

I'm not compelled by arguments for realism in video games, because mechanics and fun almost always override realism. Who exactly wants to do math and physics in Valheim? I don't and I have an undergraduate and graduate degree in physics. I'm passionate, fascinated and have a career in physics and even I would not want to sum forces and torques just to build a square box house in Valheim. If I'm going to do such a thing, then I would close the video game and actually do physics in the real world.

I appreciate the creativity of Valheim. To me, that is far more it's functional purpose then to be some realistic building simulator. This is not meant to be negative, but simply how I see things. If you want to realistically build, then put the video game down and learn to be an engineer. I think it's pretty clear that Valheim is meant as a space for fun and creativity, not a learning environment on how to build realistically.

Meahwhile...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG-POwovemg

OP please post pictures instead of ranting, then maybe can get some help for actual situation you are experiencing,

anyway
look at this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2804686345

Quick answer:
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Originally posted by Flare |UKCS|:

Yeah cant build anything large...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2800566716

this^

op, sorry to say but it's a you problem. plenty of people build just fine. learn the rules of the build system and work within them and you'll be fine.

Originally posted by Elizabeth The Frog:

with the terrible building system, why even have building at all? like, cant build 3 inches from a pillar without my entire roof caving in, Oh lemme just use some actual support methods, oh none of them work, like? what the actual ♥♥♥♥?

Simply put, you've just not learned how to properly build in the game. That's a user end issue not a flaw with the game since the devs intentionally implemented it this way.

I recommend(as others) for your to watch building videos and read various guides to better understand the mechanics.

Yeah cant build anything large...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2800566716

I agree with op that it would be nice for Valheim's build system to work more like real static structures engineering, but it isn't true that you can't build with it. You just have to accept the fantasy physics of Valheim.

Presently the only thing that matters is how many pieces you are from the ground, as indicated by the color system. There is, I think, more penalty for horizontal distance from a grounded piece, but I haven't observed that carefully, I just watch the colors.

If a brace is attached to, say, a green vertical, it should transfer green support to the piece it holds, or so I assume. That is surely in the works if not currently implemented.

And I agree generally that the build system needs to get better, even though you can build some amazing stuff within the current limitations.

On the other other hand (if I haven't lost count) overcoming limitations draws out creativity. It's a thing. Poet's write to some strict form like a sonnet in order to force themselves to cudgel their brains.

I think Valheim+ lets you rotate pieces on two axis? Might be worth a look.

Originally posted by us271934-Слава Україн:

Originally posted by Cobretti:

It's a good building system but it either allows to build without any laws of physics applied or it allows you to build supports to work with those laws of physics. The building system does neither and therefore limits the builder.

Tone down the fanboism, OP's comments are how games get better, if we all sat around saying "this game is 1000% pefect omgggggg" then nothing would get improved.

The flavor of OP's comments are how to get the devs to move on to less spittle spewing territory. OP couldn't figure out the building with zillions of youtubes available so the conclusion is the devs are idiots.

This.

yes some of the building takes a bit to understand.. in the shortest possible explanation foundations when placed.. if you hover over them and wait a bit they will stay blue. (ie good!) whereas walls and roof sections once placed start off blue then after a while if you hover over them or wait and watch.. they change thru to red sometimes and then after red they collapse.. (this is relative to how far from foundation they are..ie higher closer to red)
Also adding "normal" ie irl bracing does nothing to help in fact the opposite often where the additional load on walls etc turns them red (ie use hammer and hover over them) there are many detailed explanations of using stone iron etc in a construction in here. sadly i dont have those links any more some one may post them

so, bracing just doesnt exist, in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ viking game? really? how lazy are these dumbass devs, have they never seen literally any viking structure?

Originally posted by Elizabeth The Frog:

so, bracing just doesnt exist, in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ viking game? really? how lazy are these dumbass devs, have they never seen literally any viking structure?

the bracing must meet the "weight" characteristics.. but yes im a irl carpenter and struggled with this for quite a few hundred in-game days!! if you have made it to swamp biome and passed second boss you will soon have access to iron and stone that helps a lot!!

Originally posted by Cap'n Bells:

Originally posted by Elizabeth The Frog:

so, bracing just doesnt exist, in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ viking game? really? how lazy are these dumbass devs, have they never seen literally any viking structure?

the bracing must meet the "weight" characteristics.. but yes im a irl carpenter and struggled with this for quite a few hundred in-game days!! if you have made it to swamp biome and passed second boss you will soon have access to iron and stone that helps a lot!!

i have a all around love for building and this game is a disgrace for having no ability to brace a pillar

Originally posted by Elizabeth The Frog:

Originally posted by Cap'n Bells:

the bracing must meet the "weight" characteristics.. but yes im a irl carpenter and struggled with this for quite a few hundred in-game days!! if you have made it to swamp biome and passed second boss you will soon have access to iron and stone that helps a lot!!

i have a all around love for building and this game is a disgrace for having no ability to brace a pillar

I think it's one of the best video game building systems I've ever played. Clipping allows one to be very creative. I like the creativity aspect. When I want realism, I go outside.

Originally posted by >< V ><:

Originally posted by Elizabeth The Frog:

i have a all around love for building and this game is a disgrace for having no ability to brace a pillar

I think it's one of the best video game building systems I've ever played. Clipping allows one to be very creative. I like the creativity aspect. When I want realism, I go outside.

It's a good building system but it either allows to build without any laws of physics applied or it allows you to build supports to work with those laws of physics. The building system does neither and therefore limits the builder.

Tone down the fanboism, OP's comments are how games get better, if we all sat around saying "this game is 1000% pefect omgggggg" then nothing would get improved.

Originally posted by Cobretti:

Originally posted by >< V ><:

I think it's one of the best video game building systems I've ever played. Clipping allows one to be very creative. I like the creativity aspect. When I want realism, I go outside.

It's a good building system but it either allows to build without any laws of physics applied or it allows you to build supports to work with those laws of physics. The building system does neither and therefore limits the builder.

Tone down the fanboism, OP's comments are how games get better, if we all sat around saying "this game is 1000% pefect omgggggg" then nothing would get improved.

The flavor of OP's comments are how to get the devs to move on to less spittle spewing territory. OP couldn't figure out the building with zillions of youtubes available so the conclusion is the devs are idiots.