serpent hunting easier than fishing
just like th title says...its literally easier to wait for a storm at night (easily occurs once or twice an in-game week) hop in th kavre and get ~2 serpents per outing than standing beside a fishing spot and catching a reasonable amount of fish.
like i can have eik power, high stam food, rested and still only pull 2 or 3 fish *successfully* out of the water---and thats after burning a whole day or two plus the resource intensive high stam foods...i can take out a serpent while on zero food---typically before its little intro animation even finishes (using draugr+frost)
like i get how th fishing can be a fun relaxing rp thing...but otherwise its highly inefficient--hell if im fishing from my longboat more fish will jump into my boat than i can pull outa th water
ive read th tips about pulling them ashore by walking back while reeling and seen the navaro fish trap...just seems like a huge time sink with little reward--even for one of th better foods in th game.
anyway, if u got any tips or insights id be happy to find a way to make this aspect more effective/fun
tyia
like i can have eik power, high stam food, rested and still only pull 2 or 3 fish *successfully* out of the water---and thats after burning a whole day or two plus the resource intensive high stam foods...i can take out a serpent while on zero food---typically before its little intro animation even finishes (using draugr+frost)
like i get how th fishing can be a fun relaxing rp thing...but otherwise its highly inefficient--hell if im fishing from my longboat more fish will jump into my boat than i can pull outa th water
ive read th tips about pulling them ashore by walking back while reeling and seen the navaro fish trap...just seems like a huge time sink with little reward--even for one of th better foods in th game.
anyway, if u got any tips or insights id be happy to find a way to make this aspect more effective/fun
tyia
11:13 am, May 22, 2023
The Cookie Monster replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:13:10 am PDT
I agree 👍💯. Plus serpent stew and serpent meat can hold you off until the Mistlands. It's honestly a very powerful food source thats borderline op because it can be obtained during the iron age.
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
11:13 pm, June 1, 2023
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Keep a Grin. No Fear to Sin. replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:13:10 am PDT
I agree 👍💯. Plus serpent stew and serpent meat can hold you off until the Mistlands. It's honestly a very powerful food source thats borderline op because it can be obtained during the iron age.
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
5:13 pm, June 1, 2023
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♤Scrambled onions♤ replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 9:21:03 am PDT
Agreed, a friend and I encountered 5 serpents in one trip just going about our day to day business
2:13 am, June 1, 2023
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The Algerian Ambrosia Apple replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:13:10 am PDT
I agree 👍💯. Plus serpent stew and serpent meat can hold you off until the Mistlands. It's honestly a very powerful food source thats borderline op because it can be obtained during the iron age.
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
2:13 am, June 1, 2023
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♤Scrambled onions♤ replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:19:26 am PDT
Not really a delicacy when you're on a large server where we can have someone hunting serpents whenever they're able to I agree 👍💯. Plus serpent stew and serpent meat can hold you off until the Mistlands. It's honestly a very powerful food source thats borderline op because it can be obtained during the iron age.
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
2:13 am, June 1, 2023
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♤Scrambled onions♤ replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:25:43 am PDT
You dare reject the burrito? Some trips I have found 3-4 over 2 nights maybe, others I've found 0-1. But I agree with your post, fishing is still underwhelming and time consuming. Fish wraps are hardly necessary.
2:13 am, June 1, 2023
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Zathabar replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 23, 2023 @ 1:58:35 am PDT
Again not been my experience. I get you that its a bit unnerving to see "Its not taking the bait" when you can see the type of fish you are baited for right in front of you, amongst others.
But that Pike or Tuna or whatever is: NOT taking the bait. So wait and the "right" fish will take a nibble and with a click you can start hauling it in.
You are right there is little reason to fish outside one area until there is more reason to do so, IE recipes. The hat is insufficient. The angler fish recipe is a great start but disproportionately hard to get for its effect.
But that Pike or Tuna or whatever is: NOT taking the bait. So wait and the "right" fish will take a nibble and with a click you can start hauling it in.
You are right there is little reason to fish outside one area until there is more reason to do so, IE recipes. The hat is insufficient. The angler fish recipe is a great start but disproportionately hard to get for its effect.
11:13 am, May 23, 2023
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Foxglovez replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 1:20:33 pm PDT
Fishing used to be fun. You could actually catch fish, cook the fish and then eat the fish without a cauldron. By the time you have the cauldron fish is a waste of time until the burritos. Dumb change, just dumb. The fun in fishing has been removed.
Watching for wriggling fish, not wriggling fish, fish using up all stamina while not wiggling but game gets confused. Too much time spent for one lousy level one fish at a time. Even less fun is just standing somewhere throwing the line, pulling in the line over and over and over and over to get a few levels. You actually make fewer levels if you catch a fish because the leveling is just from pulling in. Not actually getting levels from catching fish? Yeah that makes equal nonsense kind of sense. Sad times. Best fishing is finding fish on the shore &/or building a fish farm as noted above. Sorry, rant of disappointment in the changes.
Watching for wriggling fish, not wriggling fish, fish using up all stamina while not wiggling but game gets confused. Too much time spent for one lousy level one fish at a time. Even less fun is just standing somewhere throwing the line, pulling in the line over and over and over and over to get a few levels. You actually make fewer levels if you catch a fish because the leveling is just from pulling in. Not actually getting levels from catching fish? Yeah that makes equal nonsense kind of sense. Sad times. Best fishing is finding fish on the shore &/or building a fish farm as noted above. Sorry, rant of disappointment in the changes.
11:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Fzanco replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 1:24:49 pm PDT
+1 signing petition to remove fishing skill
11:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Zathabar replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 1:59:56 pm PDT
Fishing used to be fun. You could actually catch fish, cook the fish and then eat the fish without a cauldron. By the time you have the cauldron fish is a waste of time until the burritos. Dumb change, just dumb. The fun in fishing has been removed.
Watching for wriggling fish, not wriggling fish, fish using up all stamina while not wiggling but game gets confused. Too much time spent for one lousy level one fish at a time. Even less fun is just standing somewhere throwing the line, pulling in the line over and over and over and over to get a few levels. You actually make fewer levels if you catch a fish because the leveling is just from pulling in. Not actually getting levels from catching fish? Yeah that makes equal nonsense kind of sense. Sad times. Best fishing is finding fish on the shore &/or building a fish farm as noted above. Sorry, rant of disappointment in the changes.
Respectfully disagree.
The new system once you get the gist of it is TOO EASY that's not an improvement I grant you. But its doable, the selections decent at 12 species with multi star variations for a touch of spice. As with everything skills levels are pretty irrelevant so who cares. As I said above took a couple of hours gained about 15 levels completed the whole 12 fish goal for the Hat. Naturally I was lucky I knew where to get Tetras but that's not a skill issue RNG smiled on me their.
The lack of recipes is just gotta be something they'll address. (Please god!)
Foxglove makes an excellent point on the weird counter intuitive reversal of requiring a cauldron to get raw fish.. totally wrong! All they needed to do was add the raw fish recipe to the handcraft one and problem solved. Using the cauldrons just lazy design.
Systems OK as it stands but obviously unfinished I think we ought to reserve judgement ill the point they say "This is its finished form"
For now get a rod cash in a few Trophy's for bait have a few hours fun.
11:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Foxglovez replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 3:57:10 pm PDT
Our ideas of fun vary I believe. Though fun is hard to quantitate, for me this isn't much fun. My issue is not that's it's easy or not easy. At low level it is in fact not easy to get that fish. Take off the hat, only have low level gear and foods. Well, fishing has been improved. Recently, and this is what we got. Then they fixed it a bit more to add the wriggling fish. So that is two improvements. Don't imagine they are going to bother with it again. At least at this point I hope not. Not sure we can stand many more "improvements".
Then comes the next annoyance. It matters not which bait you have if you are not in the meadows. Whatever it is, the other fish is biting. See pikes? Put on the meadows bait. No hookage. See trollfish, put on that bait and then pike jump. Don't forget ocean fish. So now need 3 kinds of bait if you're lucky. KK, got that. Then every kind and every level of fish has it's own stackage. Ok, well now we have the pole, the 3 kinds of bait and then you get a couple fish and guess what... out of room. I'm sorry, it's just dopey design.
There should at least be a fishing creel which carries all the fishing sheet. If you're not in the meadows it's not like you get to leave your weapons home and wander over there with a really free inventory.
And frankly every new higher level bait should catch all the fish up to that level. Or at least have only fresh water and salt water fish baits. Am waiting for them to have new high level poles so we have to carry multiples of them too. Sheesh, makes little to no sense to do any fishing other than in the meadows. Counterintuitive silliness.
Then comes the next annoyance. It matters not which bait you have if you are not in the meadows. Whatever it is, the other fish is biting. See pikes? Put on the meadows bait. No hookage. See trollfish, put on that bait and then pike jump. Don't forget ocean fish. So now need 3 kinds of bait if you're lucky. KK, got that. Then every kind and every level of fish has it's own stackage. Ok, well now we have the pole, the 3 kinds of bait and then you get a couple fish and guess what... out of room. I'm sorry, it's just dopey design.
There should at least be a fishing creel which carries all the fishing sheet. If you're not in the meadows it's not like you get to leave your weapons home and wander over there with a really free inventory.
And frankly every new higher level bait should catch all the fish up to that level. Or at least have only fresh water and salt water fish baits. Am waiting for them to have new high level poles so we have to carry multiples of them too. Sheesh, makes little to no sense to do any fishing other than in the meadows. Counterintuitive silliness.
11:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Holy Roller replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:13:10 am PDT
I agree 👍💯. Plus serpent stew and serpent meat can hold you off until the Mistlands. It's honestly a very powerful food source thats borderline op because it can be obtained during the iron age.
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
8:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Scrambled onions replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:19:26 am PDT
Not really a delicacy when you're on a large server where we can have someone hunting serpents whenever they're able to I agree 👍💯. Plus serpent stew and serpent meat can hold you off until the Mistlands. It's honestly a very powerful food source thats borderline op because it can be obtained during the iron age.
Even though it's considered a delicacy...eat that ♥♥♥♥ up!
8:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Frank Dunn replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:21:49 am PDT
Some trips I have found 3-4 over 2 nights maybe, others I've found 0-1. But I agree with your post, fishing is still underwhelming and time consuming. Fish wraps are hardly necessary.
8:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Scrambled onions replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 11:25:43 am PDT
You dare reject the burrito? Some trips I have found 3-4 over 2 nights maybe, others I've found 0-1. But I agree with your post, fishing is still underwhelming and time consuming. Fish wraps are hardly necessary.
8:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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D3F14NT replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 8:20:14 am PDT
Everyone's different I guess. Wife and I ignored the fishing for a long time as it seems under developed (all those fish and only ONE recipe???)
Two hours or so later we have our fishing hats for catiching one of each 12 species despite modest skills of 12-16!
It has a certain Fun aspect I wasn't expecting and I do want try for a display wall of all level3+ specimens at some point but its a bit underwhelming o far.
My tip? Don't reel them in too far! If on land drag them to the surf and pick up. On a Boat or raft (rafts are more useful for fishing like this due to low sides) you have less room to do this but its still possible.
Also keep a Sta potion on your hot bar to prevent that vital catch getting the better of ya!
solid tips---i hadnt considered the stam potion--ty
5:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Draconifors replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 9:07:03 am PDT
Sometimes it feels fishing is easier with a boat/ship than with a fishing pole, since fish can, and frequently enough do, literally jump in.
Definitely seconding the stamina mead on a hotkey suggestion.
Definitely seconding the stamina mead on a hotkey suggestion.
5:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Scrambled onions replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 9:21:03 am PDT
Agreed, a friend and I encountered 5 serpents in one trip just going about our day to day business
5:13 pm, May 22, 2023
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Tachyon replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 2:24:46 am PDT
To add a bit more life to the game I recently used mods to add more land animals as well as sea creatures and birds. I've killed bears, moose, sharks, swans, capybara and so on, so it's nice to have the impression the world is more alive as well as extra food. I haven't been out at sea on my current map yet, having killed the sharks in the shallows, but I hope the seas are nicely populated too. :) If you're interested in more wildlife to hunt, do a search for "animals" on https://valheim.thunderstore.io/package/ which also turns up a mod for farmyard animals, too.
11:13 am, May 22, 2023
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umop-apisdn replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 3:21:04 am PDT
If it doesn't feel too cheesy, there are methods to acquire fish that don't involve a fishing pole...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnEFQz-rZ5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnEFQz-rZ5g
11:13 am, May 22, 2023
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Zathabar replied to serpent hunting easier than fishing May 22, 2023 @ 3:41:32 am PDT
Everyone's different I guess. Wife and I ignored the fishing for a long time as it seems under developed (all those fish and only ONE recipe???)
Two hours or so later we have our fishing hats for catiching one of each 12 species despite modest skills of 12-16!
It has a certain Fun aspect I wasn't expecting and I do want try for a display wall of all level3+ specimens at some point but its a bit underwhelming o far.
My tip? Don't reel them in too far! If on land drag them to the surf and pick up. On a Boat or raft (rafts are more useful for fishing like this due to low sides) you have less room to do this but its still possible.
Also keep a Sta potion on your hot bar to prevent that vital catch getting the better of ya!
Two hours or so later we have our fishing hats for catiching one of each 12 species despite modest skills of 12-16!
It has a certain Fun aspect I wasn't expecting and I do want try for a display wall of all level3+ specimens at some point but its a bit underwhelming o far.
My tip? Don't reel them in too far! If on land drag them to the surf and pick up. On a Boat or raft (rafts are more useful for fishing like this due to low sides) you have less room to do this but its still possible.
Also keep a Sta potion on your hot bar to prevent that vital catch getting the better of ya!
11:13 am, May 22, 2023
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