SPEARS

why do i need to be so close to use a spear
this make no sense
6:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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pickle_xcvi replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 10:28:39 am PST

Spears should be reclassified as javelins. Atgeirs are the actual "spears" in the game --seriously, they're one of the strongest weapons in the game right now.
6:13 pm, January 10, 2023
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ULTRA Outdoorsman replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 5:21:18 pm PST

Because the character nonsensically uses an overhand grip like they're in formation behind a shield, and yet you cannot block at the same time as stabbing
6:13 pm, January 10, 2023
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NatureValley replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 10:28:39 am PST

Spears should be reclassified as javelins. Atgeirs are the actual "spears" in the game --seriously, they're one of the strongest weapons in the game right now.
6:13 pm, December 26, 2021
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StorminMormin1 replied to SPEARS December 21, 2021 @ 7:59:00 pm PST

Agreed spears need some work!
6:13 am, December 22, 2021
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Mikakunin replied to SPEARS December 21, 2021 @ 7:55:12 am PST

the only good spear is harpoon spear
6:13 pm, December 21, 2021
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Marty Chonks replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 4:32:53 pm PST

I wish the devs would make a secondary attack a low long reach thrust for normal spears and add throwing spears as an entirely new weapon.
3:13 am, December 21, 2021
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Isaac_Clark replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 5:01:50 pm PST

Originally posted by Marty Chonks:
I wish the devs would make a secondary attack a low long reach thrust for normal spears and add throwing spears as an entirely new weapon.
+1
3:13 am, December 21, 2021
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Anarchist Jurisdictor replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 5:21:18 pm PST

Because the character nonsensically uses an overhand grip like they're in formation behind a shield, and yet you cannot block at the same time as stabbing
3:13 am, December 21, 2021
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blankitosonic replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 5:30:27 pm PST

just attack with their combo : stagg with the shield + right mouse botton + 3 left mouse botton , youll see how good is that weapon with that one , range make less of a problem if you do that
3:13 am, December 21, 2021
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FTZ35 replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 1:50:40 pm PST

Yep, spears are garbage, Terrible hitbox, crappy range and inefficient stamina usage due to lack of 3 hit combo.
The only saving grace of spears is the secondary attack which can be useful for counterattacking after parrying a ranged attack however this move is still far weaker than the secondary attack of swords and maces, (spear secondary has 1,5x multiplier, mace has 2,5x and sword has 3x) therefore those are better for actual melee.
The only spears that are worth making are the flint and fang spear cuz they are cheap.
12:13 am, December 21, 2021
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Shiverperplexed replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 10:15:02 am PST

Yeah I love the spear too, especially at later levels. I think the best, easy fix would be to modify hitboxes for some the smaller enemies at the start of the game. tbh, I don't start using them until trolls and it shreds them paired with parry.
9:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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Nogen replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 10:23:55 am PST

Spear is also my weapon of choice.

However, it incapacity to hit something lower than a boar is quite frustrating. I mean, of all the weapon in the world, the spear is probably the best tool to hit something that is ground level.

"-Damn, there is snakes all around us! I need something to defend!
- Here, take that spear!"

"- I'm hungry and there is nice big fish in that creek, swimming aimlessly at the surface of water. If only I had a tool to catch them.
- Here, take that spear."

I mean, come on.
9:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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nature valley replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 10:28:39 am PST

Spears should be reclassified as javelins. Atgeirs are the actual "spears" in the game --seriously, they're one of the strongest weapons in the game right now.
9:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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DwellarDaelhin replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 12:45:16 pm PST

YES BUUUUTT
THE RANGE OF THE SPEAR IS LIKE THE SAME AS A SWORD
THAT MAKE NOT SENCE
9:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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Goblin King Jareth replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 12:57:57 pm PST

As a dedicated mace/hammer user, I have often thought a spear would have been useful in tight dungeon hallways. Plus as a Legends mod user and a dedicated Priest I thought a spear a much more appropriate ranged weapon for a Priest than a bow, but I didn't like the fact that I could throw it away and lose metal this way, seems too penalizing a drawback just for a ranged weapon. The harpoon doesn't share that problem, oddly.
9:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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Shiverperplexed replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 9:55:44 am PST

Also it goes over the heads of many enemies in the beginning of the game no matter how close you are.
I think it's a trade-off for speed why you have to be so close for the others. The attack animation for this weapon and many others does need to be fixed though so that you can actually hit enemies and chop down trees when standing right beside them on uneven terrain.
6:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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DwellarDaelhin replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 10:05:33 am PST

YES I DO AGREE
6:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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Isaac_Clark replied to SPEARS December 20, 2021 @ 10:06:49 am PST

Ok yes, I hear you, I feel you, I get it. Buuut..
I've been a spear main for most of my 500 hours into this game so let me try to sell you on some of the advantages of using a spear.

It mainly comes down to attack speed. Slower than knives, but noticeably faster than swords or maces; it hits a sort of sweet spot in terms of it's damage output that favors a very defensive and technical playstyle. It's especially good when paired with a buckler. Bucklers have a much higher crit bonus than other shields but also lower block armor and block force. The spear's attack speed allows you to take full advantage of the slightly smaller counter-window from bucklers and you can also cancel out of spear attacks quickly if you need to parry again or roll under an attack.

But the hit box can be frustrating while you're getting used to it. It can hit things that are at a higher elevation which can be nice in the mountains, but not being able to hit things lower than you can be frustrating in the meadows or black forest. If you have to attack below you, use the throw (middle mouse button). It takes some practice, but at point blank range the spear will go directly back into your hand making it more like a long thrust. If you can just move below them though it's often more practical.

The other main drawback of the spear is with it's damage type. There are some tough enemies that are weak to it like Trolls and Lox, but also several that are resistant to it like oozes, skellies, and creature spawners. For this reason you might want to carry a blunt weapon as backup for these encounters. I like using the two-handed hammers as they're also useful in dungeons for attacking around corners.

TL; DR
Spears have a high skill floor and cieling, but can be uniquely rewarding. When mastered, spear mains can have the highest damage output in your party.
6:13 pm, December 20, 2021
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