Fall damage is stupid

The fall damage is so bad. I walk off a roof and die. The roof is 2 wall heights high. Its just a constant nightmare of dying to really dumb things that should not even hurt you.
8:13 am, May 29, 2021
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starboardbass68 replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 7:26:21 am PDT

you should be able to recover the health u lost with just a berry
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Piroj replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 7:26:21 am PDT

you should be able to recover the health u lost with just a berry
5:13 pm, May 30, 2021
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Bobucles replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 5:24:23 am PDT

Jump off a house and post results.
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WhatevsBrah replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 5:29:56 am PDT

do you even eat, bruh?
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Bunker replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 5:31:33 am PDT

i was considering a fall damage mechanic in my new game.... problem is people hate fall damage - but you kinda need it to make some areas off-limit.

i figured the best compromise would be to have 'fall damage' and 'jump height' draw from the same value called jump skill. Basically meaning you can level up your fall height along with your jump height.

but to keep it fun.. you make the jump value have no maximum value. So you could level up your jump/fall to over 9000 and jump over the world. of corse you'd need a variable JumpPower - done by holding down spacebar for longer.

the jump system in this game just makes me want to pull what's left of my hair out.

this is probly just;
if stamina not 0% (set velocity 0,.001,0)
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grapplehoeker replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 5:33:14 am PDT

We did some really stupid stuff as kids... I recall playing Dare with my friends and jumped from a 4th storey balcony to the ground. Fortunately, I chose to land in a pile of gravel and only sprained my ankle.
Later in life I worked around construction sites (skyscrapers, not houses) and I've seen deaths from falling from all sorts of heights, from just 5 meters to 100 meters. It's never pleasant and can be very messy.

It's never the fall damage that is stupid, it's the person who didn't take enough care to prevent a fall. o.O
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Pervy replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 5:48:05 am PDT

Originally posted by Raithe:
The fall damage is so bad. I walk off a roof and die. The roof is 2 wall heights high. Its just a constant nightmare of dying to really dumb things that should not even hurt you.
And thats why you are well fed always. 25 hp is nothing.
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Katitoff replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 5:48:09 am PDT

Originally posted by WhatevsBrah:
do you even eat, bruh?
I think he is a severe case of taking really to himself the "you won't starve to death here" principle.
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Chronic213 replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 6:31:39 am PDT

Agree 100%. Fall damage from low heights is too severe. They can INCREASE fall damage from higher heights, too. I haven't tested this myself, but someone mentioned in another thread that you will lose a MAX of 100 HP from ANY fall. That means you can jump off ANYTHING and survive as along as your health is above 100...

But don't fall off that 8 foot ledge at 25 HP... you die!

Both extremes are frustrating and should be addressed.
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Raithe replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 6:44:28 am PDT

Yes. Food. Yes. I am constantly hungry. The need for food is also a bit over done in this game and should be turned down. As it takes very large amounts of ingredients to produce very small amounts of food I have been forced into a starvation/binge diet.

In general things like food, fall damage, endurance (and enemies not having to deal with any of these) seems very imbalanced. All are nice touches but I am certainly not here to play an eating simulator. And yes I would expect a short fall from a roof just tall enough for me to walk under should actually do no damage at all.
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jeetrix replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 6:52:26 am PDT

you're actually playing an exhausted starving character with no energy that has to climb roofs and such.. near death anorexic builder slaves are not the best baseline to balance a game on :)
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jonnin replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 6:56:42 am PDT

Originally posted by Raithe:
Yes. Food. Yes. I am constantly hungry. The need for food is also a bit over done in this game and should be turned down. As it takes very large amounts of ingredients to produce very small amounts of food I have been forced into a starvation/binge diet.

In general things like food, fall damage, endurance (and enemies not having to deal with any of these) seems very imbalanced. All are nice touches but I am certainly not here to play an eating simulator. And yes I would expect a short fall from a roof just tall enough for me to walk under should actually do no damage at all.

It may not be perfectly balanced but take the situation at hand.
solution: honey. 4-5 hives, and you can eat it nonstop all day without any more effort. takes nothing to prepare etc. Can now fall off a 2 story home and live, or fall in your fire or get stuck in smoke and live, or get ambushed by a group of dwarves. solves minor damage stuff at home assuming you are armored and can react.
past that there are many simple foods you can use that take little prep. just cook meat and lizard tails and eat honey and you are good up to the swamp. No major effort. Swamp you get turnip stew and start having to farm a bit, but its still not that hard to manage. I have a 20 plot turnip farm and it makes all I need. Avoid the foods that take a lot of effort unless fighting a boss you should not need.
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ska.one replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 7:01:57 am PDT

Food production and return on time investment turns the corner at swamp level food (e.g. sausage, turnip stew), and improves from that at plains level (which is end game now but really mid game in the grand scheme of 9 expected biomes). Even BF level carrot soup and queens jam are decent with a roast meat (though low duration compared to higher tier). Certainly good enough for putzing around BF and meadows.

I would expect things to get tweaked and rebalanced with H&H, but at this point investing in the better foods available now is the best we can do.
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Garatgh Deloi replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 7:16:53 am PDT

Originally posted by Raithe:
dying to really dumb things that should not even hurt you.

Making it sound like you would be perfectly fine jumping from a roof in real life when in reality you are very likely to be severely injured, potentially even dying instantly if you are unlucky.

Its perfectly logical and sensible that you would take damage falling from your roof, especially when its 2 walls high.
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Animaaduro replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 7:19:56 am PDT

It's accurate to real life. Get over it mate. If you don't like the game for that reason, then don't play.
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The Man replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 7:26:21 am PDT

you should be able to recover the health u lost with just a berry
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Raithe replied to Fall damage is stupid March 25, 2021 @ 7:40:09 am PDT

Accurate in real life? LOL.....its a game bro. Its not even remotely "accurate" in its mimicry of real life. Not sure why it would need to be accurate. Accuracy is not the point.
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