Originally posted by TheLostPenguin:

Originally posted by 超级无敌史诗传说普信男:

my ignorance? lmao. obviously I'm ignorant about the crops mechanism because the guidance isn't clear, the tutorial is bad. the developers are punishing me for their mistakes? jesus, how much Valheim paid you lmao?

Yes, your ignorance is what cost you those seeds.
This is how you learn, you try stuff, some of it doesn't work for reasons you weren't aware of beforehand, you learn and do things differently next time.
Valheim isn't a game that throws up a tutorial every single time you encounter something new, you have to learn either by playing the game and making mistakes as you go, or if you want easy mode by googling every single thing you encounter.
Nobody cares if you want to google every gameplay mechanic so you know perfectly how everything works before trying it once ingame, or what attack patterns every mob has and what their weaknesses are so you never get surprised or have to do any learning ingame, that's your choice to experience the game that way. But if you want to turn Valheim into Disneyland and have the game hold your hand explaining every last detail to the player in advance you can shove right off, because that's not the game most people want to play, and the tools are already available to you to get most of that information if it's how you want to play.

THIS right here should be marked the answer. Unbelievable that people are so quick to cry foul instead of thinking and overcoming.

This aint minecraft bruh lmao
Go back there if you want easy mechs and no looses
Its incredible that u reach plains with this kind of mind

Gods, the Viking help line sucks..

My favourite is the coal. How do you get 15 coal? Do you prepare plant matter and press it, making some sort of rudimentary burner-fuel? Do you dig for it in the ground, like a sane person? Pray to the gods, perhaps?

Oh, no. One burns chicken on the camp-fire. Until you at some point will be able magically roast the finest core wood in the forest into coal-bits (neither of this works in reality). Or else, one farms evil small-elves who seem to carry coal out of the lava-pits of Swedish viking-hell.

But the - by far - quickest way (and only way early on) is to burn food on the campfire. Because we all know that burnt chicken will get your forge above 1300 or so degrees when you put it in the forge.

Or else you can obliterate gold coins, because viking physics!

Nevertheless - it is a "learning process". So one shouldn't be too harsh about these ENTIRELY LOGICAL AND INTERNALLY CONSISTENT MECHANICS THAT ARE NOT RIDICULOUS IN ANY WAY.

A wise man once said: "Don't sow all your seeds in the same field".

It might have been eggs in a basket and reap what you sow, but combine them and you've got your answer.

Originally posted by retroquark:

My favourite is the coal. How do you get 15 coal? Do you prepare plant matter and press it, making some sort of rudimentary burner-fuel? Do you dig for it in the ground, like a sane person? Pray to the gods, perhaps?

You've missed the primary source of coal, which is making a charcoal kiln using stone and cores.

"fix your game" reads as aggressive in tone, thus the resulting flame thread.

Originally posted by Complaintdesk:

Lost my over 50 carrot seeds my son had gathered by planting them too close together. Started out with 100, so when I saw them wilted and dying with the description of why, I destroyed every 2nd seedling to create space. Like all these games, there is a learning curve for those who do not research new aspects of a game they are not familiar with. Definitely not worth creating a thread on the subject, or blaming someone else for one's own ignorance. I did the same thing as you with my first flax & barley seeds, but I learned from my first mistake with the carrots, and only planted 3 then waited 10 minutes to see what would happen. After these two blunders I began to Google things I was not familiar with.

We live in a culture of blame. People will blame anyone or anything for their misery sooner than take the responsibility to own it and make it better.

wtf u talking about lmao? I paid for this game. This is early access, of course the game has problems to fix. I'm not researching or googling for a stupid game lmao. This is not writing a college paper. I didn't pay money to be miserable lmao, what's wrong with you. actually, I'm not blaming, I'm saying facts. I should be able to get my crops back, just like in Minecraft. obviously they need to fix the game.

Originally posted by 超级无敌史诗传说普信男:

Originally posted by Complaintdesk:

Lost my over 50 carrot seeds my son had gathered by planting them too close together. Started out with 100, so when I saw them wilted and dying with the description of why, I destroyed every 2nd seedling to create space. Like all these games, there is a learning curve for those who do not research new aspects of a game they are not familiar with. Definitely not worth creating a thread on the subject, or blaming someone else for one's own ignorance. I did the same thing as you with my first flax & barley seeds, but I learned from my first mistake with the carrots, and only planted 3 then waited 10 minutes to see what would happen. After these two blunders I began to Google things I was not familiar with.

We live in a culture of blame. People will blame anyone or anything for their misery sooner than take the responsibility to own it and make it better.

wtf u talking about lmao? I paid for this game. This is early access, of course the game has problems to fix. I'm not researching or googling for a stupid game lmao. This is not writing a college paper. I didn't pay money to be miserable lmao, what's wrong with you. actually, I'm not blaming, I'm saying facts. I should be able to get my crops back, just like in Minecraft. obviously they need to fix the game.

my ignorance? lmao. obviously I'm ignorant about the crops mechanism because the guidance isn't clear, the tutorial is bad. the developers are punishing me for their mistakes? jesus, how much Valheim paid you lmao?

Originally posted by Complaintdesk:

Lost my over 50 carrot seeds my son had gathered by planting them too close together. Started out with 100, so when I saw them wilted and dying with the description of why, I destroyed every 2nd seedling to create space. Like all these games, there is a learning curve for those who do not research new aspects of a game they are not familiar with. Definitely not worth creating a thread on the subject, or blaming someone else for one's own ignorance. I did the same thing as you with my first flax & barley seeds, but I learned from my first mistake with the carrots, and only planted 3 then waited 10 minutes to see what would happen. After these two blunders I began to Google things I was not familiar with.

We live in a culture of blame. People will blame anyone or anything for their misery sooner than take the responsibility to own it and make it better.

btw, sounds like u r blaming me for blaming the developers. so, how different r u from me lol.

Originally posted by Complaintdesk:

Lost my over 50 carrot seeds my son had gathered by planting them too close together. Started out with 100, so when I saw them wilted and dying with the description of why, I destroyed every 2nd seedling to create space. Like all these games, there is a learning curve for those who do not research new aspects of a game they are not familiar with. Definitely not worth creating a thread on the subject, or blaming someone else for one's own ignorance. I did the same thing as you with my first flax & barley seeds, but I learned from my first mistake with the carrots, and only planted 3 then waited 10 minutes to see what would happen. After these two blunders I began to Google things I was not familiar with.

We live in a culture of blame. People will blame anyone or anything for their misery sooner than take the responsibility to own it and make it better.

definitely not worth creating a comment on the thread, bro

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Originally posted by 超级无敌史诗传说普信男:

Originally posted by 超级无敌史诗传说普信男:

wtf u talking about lmao? I paid for this game. This is early access, of course the game has problems to fix. I'm not researching or googling for a stupid game lmao. This is not writing a college paper. I didn't pay money to be miserable lmao, what's wrong with you. actually, I'm not blaming, I'm saying facts. I should be able to get my crops back, just like in Minecraft. obviously they need to fix the game.

my ignorance? lmao. obviously I'm ignorant about the crops mechanism because the guidance isn't clear, the tutorial is bad. the developers are punishing me for their mistakes? jesus, how much Valheim paid you lmao?

Yes, your ignorance is what cost you those seeds.
This is how you learn, you try stuff, some of it doesn't work for reasons you weren't aware of beforehand, you learn and do things differently next time.
Valheim isn't a game that throws up a tutorial every single time you encounter something new, you have to learn either by playing the game and making mistakes as you go, or if you want easy mode by googling every single thing you encounter.
Nobody cares if you want to google every gameplay mechanic so you know perfectly how everything works before trying it once ingame, or what attack patterns every mob has and what their weaknesses are so you never get surprised or have to do any learning ingame, that's your choice to experience the game that way. But if you want to turn Valheim into Disneyland and have the game hold your hand explaining every last detail to the player in advance you can shove right off, because that's not the game most people want to play, and the tools are already available to you to get most of that information if it's how you want to play.

He wants to be able to pick them back up. I would too, every time I get the plants a bit too close together or something else is wrong. But so far as I know, you can't, you just lose the plant. And I too lost my entire first batch of flax for the same reason.

Lost my over 50 carrot seeds my son had gathered by planting them too close together. Started out with 100, so when I saw them wilted and dying with the description of why, I destroyed every 2nd seedling to create space. Like all these games, there is a learning curve for those who do not research new aspects of a game they are not familiar with. Definitely not worth creating a thread on the subject, or blaming someone else for one's own ignorance. I did the same thing as you with my first flax & barley seeds, but I learned from my first mistake with the carrots, and only planted 3 then waited 10 minutes to see what would happen. After these two blunders I began to Google things I was not familiar with.

We live in a culture of blame. People will blame anyone or anything for their misery sooner than take the responsibility to own it and make it better.

Are you planting them in the Plains biome? Flax and Barley can only grow in the Plains biome.

Originally posted by Harpyrider:

Are you planting them in the Plains biome? Flax and Barley can only grow in the Plains biome.

Here is the answer... ^
Game is not broke here.