Originally posted by Hydran Agent:

I've got both Valheim and Conan Exiles, both have different strengths and weaknesses. I'll highlight it.

"I only play solo. I already have Conan Exiles and it's also a resource grind survival game. The problem I have with Conan is that the random enemy AI is so terrible and the combat not very satisfying. But the actual building, armor variety, and character creation is pretty good."

Enemy AI isn't the best at all. Not sure when you tried the combat last but it feels more impactful than valheim. For example the flourishes and combos based on the weapons you can use in Conan exiles is a lot more diverse than left clicking in Valheim. That said though the weapon progression in Valheim is pretty fun and also really satisfying landing ranged hits on a bow in Val.

The building in Conan vs Valheim is different for sure. Valheim relies on structural support and things will deteriorate if the structure isn't supported. Theres a lot more building pieces in Valheim vs Conan.

Conan felt much more like a clean "snap" type building where you can assemble pieces which makes things easier to construct. It can act as a drawback if you really want to get creative but its good if your new to building.


I've watched streams of Valheim when it was trending. I already know the characters don't look as good and that the armor all looks the same. Everyone always ends up with a long cape and viking helmet. But what about the rest of the gameplay?

The graphics for Valheim are pretty unique, There is some post processing effects in place and the water is awesome. It depends on your tastes though.

As for armours/appearances, yeah its not as extensive as it is on Conan but the real strengths in Valheim is the difference in the biomes, building freedom and adapting to different environments [A hint I can give you, Think of the Northlands from Conan].


Conan
Pros:
+ Beautiful graphics
+ Can enslave NPCs/Tame Pets and make your bases feel more alive.
+ Decent music
+ Extensive crafting if you consider all that you can research in.
+ Can climb up and down mountains etc.
+ Can customise your character extensively.
+ Can play either PvE,PvE or Host your own server.
+ You can configure your XP rates and harvesting rates depending on your playstyle.
+ Diverse Biomes.
+ Mods. You can make Conan 1000x better with mods.

Cons
- Base game is fine, but if you want more customisation in building. Its loaded in 1000 DLCS.
- Janky AI with monsters and some NPCS.
- Playing online in PvE or PvP can be annoying when people wall off important areas.
- If you want to play with friends properly without tethering you need to host it as a dedicated server.
- Building isn't as extensive as Valheim.

Valheim
Pros:
+ Unique Graphics
+ You can tame certain animals to be in a "pen"
+ Crafting is open if you have the materials, So a lot more open than Conan and almost as extensive.
+ Easy to do multiplayer games, Just go into the game and there you go. Co-op without tethering. [You can do dedicated server hosting too but thats only if you want the game up 24/7]
+ Biomes are awesome and pretty unique. Each have their unique feeling.
+ The building basically gives you the keys and lets you have at it, Nowhere near as restrictive as Conan.
+ Randomly generated worlds which gives that unique exploration feeling everytime.
+ World invasion events which keep you on your toes. [Similar to the Purge mechanic from Conan]
+ For a game thats in early access it has a lot of punch.
+ No DLCS! Pay for the game and thats it.

Cons:
- Character customisation isn't as extensive.
- Doesn't have as extensive NPC taming as Conan.
- Building can be infuriating for a beginner.

Hope this helps. [/quote]

Hmm wolves and loxs works different as tamed boars , and not neccesary needs to be in a pen , them easily can defend you base
But you are right , Val needs some more npc or some kind of quests

to tell you the truth i have both games but couldn't get past Conan's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ UI especially for building.

My biggest complaint about Conan is that it isn't Valheim. :)

I've got both Valheim and Conan Exiles, both have different strengths and weaknesses. I'll highlight it.

"I only play solo. I already have Conan Exiles and it's also a resource grind survival game. The problem I have with Conan is that the random enemy AI is so terrible and the combat not very satisfying. But the actual building, armor variety, and character creation is pretty good."

Enemy AI isn't the best at all. Not sure when you tried the combat last but it feels more impactful than valheim. For example the flourishes and combos based on the weapons you can use in Conan exiles is a lot more diverse than left clicking in Valheim. That said though the weapon progression in Valheim is pretty fun and also really satisfying landing ranged hits on a bow in Val.

The building in Conan vs Valheim is different for sure. Valheim relies on structural support and things will deteriorate if the structure isn't supported. Theres a lot more building pieces in Valheim vs Conan.

Conan felt much more like a clean "snap" type building where you can assemble pieces which makes things easier to construct. It can act as a drawback if you really want to get creative but its good if your new to building.


I've watched streams of Valheim when it was trending. I already know the characters don't look as good and that the armor all looks the same. Everyone always ends up with a long cape and viking helmet. But what about the rest of the gameplay?

The graphics for Valheim are pretty unique, There is some post processing effects in place and the water is awesome. It depends on your tastes though.

As for armours/appearances, yeah its not as extensive as it is on Conan but the real strengths in Valheim is the difference in the biomes, building freedom and adapting to different environments [A hint I can give you, Think of the Northlands from Conan].


Conan
Pros:
+ Beautiful graphics
+ Can enslave NPCs/Tame Pets and make your bases feel more alive.
+ Decent music
+ Extensive crafting if you consider all that you can research in.
+ Can climb up and down mountains etc.
+ Can customise your character extensively.
+ Can play either PvE,PvE or Host your own server.
+ You can configure your XP rates and harvesting rates depending on your playstyle.
+ Diverse Biomes.
+ Mods. You can make Conan 1000x better with mods.

Cons
- Base game is fine, but if you want more customisation in building. Its loaded in 1000 DLCS.
- Janky AI with monsters and some NPCS.
- Playing online in PvE or PvP can be annoying when people wall off important areas.
- If you want to play with friends properly without tethering you need to host it as a dedicated server.
- Building isn't as extensive as Valheim.

Valheim
Pros:
+ Unique Graphics
+ You can tame certain animals to be in a "pen"
+ Crafting is open if you have the materials, So a lot more open than Conan and almost as extensive.
+ Easy to do multiplayer games, Just go into the game and there you go. Co-op without tethering. [You can do dedicated server hosting too but thats only if you want the game up 24/7]
+ Biomes are awesome and pretty unique. Each have their unique feeling.
+ The building basically gives you the keys and lets you have at it, Nowhere near as restrictive as Conan.
+ Randomly generated worlds which gives that unique exploration feeling everytime.
+ World invasion events which keep you on your toes. [Similar to the Purge mechanic from Conan]
+ For a game thats in early access it has a lot of punch.
+ No DLCS! Pay for the game and thats it.

Cons:
- Character customisation isn't as extensive.
- Doesn't have as extensive NPC taming as Conan.
- Building can be infuriating for a beginner.

Hope this helps.

Remember that Valheim is not a finished game. So don't even try to compare to Conan.
It will be like comparing a hollywood production with a tourist vacation movie...

But hey ... We're talking about less than 10 euros (when it's on sale), so I honestly believe it's worth seeing by yourself ^^ ...

If the game had cost 30 euros, I would have told you to wait until it was finished. (there are areas on the map that are totally empty "work in progress" ...). But as it is the price of a pizza, frankly go! ^^

IF you only play solo then Valheim would be a better option. Solo Conan Exiles alone is nothing but a grind chore as the game is really designed for socialization. Valheim Is more engaging on a small scale and the map is randomly generated. However other than Resource gathering and base building the games have little in common. Also to note Valheim is not a Resource grind survival game. It has a start and finish (which is not implemented yet). The Survival tag is something from the community not the developers who were more than open about being inspired to make a breath of the wild like adventure game for small groups of friends.

Originally posted by The Shattered Grin:

The Survival tag is something from the community not the developers who were more than open about being inspired to make a breath of the wild like adventure game for small groups of friends.

This isn't true. The game is described as a "brutal exploration and survival game" in the first sentence of its official description.

Top right of store page you can see the popular user tags which includes survival and sandbox etc. Scroll down to see the registered Genre and it reads "GENRE: Action, Adventure, Indie, RPG, Early Access" . Also if you need an easy article to read on the developers inspiration, https://www.pcgamer.com/valheim-developer-says-zelda-and-skyrim-were-bigger-influences-than-survival-games/ . So yes, it is true.

very similar although I encountered a lot of bugs on conan exiles. I do wish this game had NPCs to control and have as body guards etc. I played on xbox and it was fun for a little while. The building is a bit more user friendly in valheim in my opinion. Overall I enjoy valheim a lot more.

The game works, unlike Conan Exiles, and doesn't install root-level "anticheat" on your system, unlike Conan Exiles, and the only thrall in the game is you. Other than that most of the differences are kinda superficial. Valheim is ironically more polished overall from a mechanical standpoint, but also more barebones.

Originally posted by Anarchist Jurisdictor:

doesn't install root-level "anticheat" on your system

always a plus