Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing
I have a finewood bow and use wood arrows. The lox has 1000 HP, is immune to sprit and has 50% resistance against blunt, frost, and slash. Valheim wiki says that the finewood bow has 32 pierce damage and the wood arrow has 22. Tooltip in game says the bow has "Pierce: 41 (23-35)" and that the wood arrow has "Pierce: 22 (12-19)". The numbers confuses me. I have no idea what amount of pierce damage my bow+arrow delivers.
Anyway, I am on an island and shoot at a lox on a neighbouring island. It stays put and takes the arrows. I have used around 400 wood arrows, and my bow skill has during that time, increased from 45 to 50. More than 100 arrows made a hit. Probably more than 150.
So I am wondering, how much damage does the lox take with each hit?
Since the other island is a bit away, I can't see a health bar above the lox, but the fact that skill level has increased a lot, does indicate that i deliver damage. Or is increase of skill not correlated to damage delivered?
Anyway, I am on an island and shoot at a lox on a neighbouring island. It stays put and takes the arrows. I have used around 400 wood arrows, and my bow skill has during that time, increased from 45 to 50. More than 100 arrows made a hit. Probably more than 150.
So I am wondering, how much damage does the lox take with each hit?
Since the other island is a bit away, I can't see a health bar above the lox, but the fact that skill level has increased a lot, does indicate that i deliver damage. Or is increase of skill not correlated to damage delivered?
9:13 pm, January 21, 2023
Zep Tepi replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 4:22:52 pm PST
I have noticed that at a certain distance you can sometimes see a lox eternally running in place. It looks ridiculous, but when you get closer it gets unstuck and starts moving normally. So even if you can see it, it's not behaving like it's fully loaded. That's probably what's happening here.
3:13 am, January 22, 2023
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Kalysm replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:24:29 pm PST
Definetly seems like something is wrong here but you may have found a way to train bows again lol. I always use arrows to kill lox, aboms and trolls as it helps raise the skill but it shold have definelty died in that timespan. The only thing I can think is because you can't see its health it may be regenning. Not sure on that though.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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Moa Constrictor replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:25:14 pm PST
I think you really need to graduate beyond using wooden arrows.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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Nascarman replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:30:01 pm PST
To level up from 45 to 50 you would need to hit at least 400 arrows, so yeah, you’ve hit more than 150. Sounds like a bug, the lox might not be fully loaded somehow and isn’t taking damage from the bow.
How far away is the lox?
How far away is the lox?
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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tomoscar replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:30:12 pm PST
I think you really need to graduate beyond using wooden arrows.I understand that there are better arrows, but since pierce damage should work fine on lox, even wood arrows should eventually kill the lox. Since it stays alive after 4 times as many hits that should have killed it, there must be a mechanic here that I don't know about, or a bug.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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tomoscar replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:35:26 pm PST
To level up from 45 to 50 you would need to hit at least 400 arrows, so yeah, you’ve hit more than 150. Sounds like a bug, the lox might not be fully loaded somehow and isn’t taking damage from the bow.I don't know. Not that far away. No problem hitting with arrows. The size of the lox on my display, is roughly as big as the head of the player character.
How far away is the lox?
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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tomoscar replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:37:00 pm PST
Definetly seems like something is wrong here but you may have found a way to train bows again lol. I always use arrows to kill lox, aboms and trolls as it helps raise the skill but it shold have definelty died in that timespan. The only thing I can think is because you can't see its health it may be regenning. Not sure on that though.That could be a possible explanation. Or, the lox doesn't take any damage at all when it is further away than a specific distance.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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ShaftAlmighty replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:41:57 pm PST
Trying to kill Lox using WOODEN arrows? That's like kicking a troll to death. Use poison arrows.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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Jaasrg replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:43:26 pm PST
Wood arrows are perfectly fine.
For sneak shots.
For sneak shots.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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Deranged Rat replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:46:22 pm PST
Could be a bug, i had something like this before with a bird. It was there, but my shots wouldn't kill it and it'd just disappear if i got close and reappear after i left.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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tomoscar replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:50:52 pm PST
Trying to kill Lox using WOODEN arrows? That's like kicking a troll to death. Use poison arrows.Well that is not the issue here. The thing is that it seams I don't do any actual damage, just get xp from the hits. My skill level is now raised to 53, so I have put in several hundreds of hits, and the lox doesn't even flinch an eye.
It could be that there is a distance limit to when range weapons do any damage, but you still get xp from hits. If so, that is either a bug or a not so good game design.
Anyway, I am not able to make poison arrows. Have yet to fight the elder, and have not been in the swamp or the mountain biome. I am planning to go to the swamp now, but still looking for a swamp area with a border to a meadows area.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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tomoscar replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 1:59:50 pm PST
Could it be that the skin of creatures function as armor, and that damage delivered has to be higher than the armor's protection value, for the creature to take any damage?
(Damage taken = damage delivered minus armor value)
If so, the Valheim wiki should contain a value for the creatures skin armor.
(Damage taken = damage delivered minus armor value)
If so, the Valheim wiki should contain a value for the creatures skin armor.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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Lil brekky replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 3:01:14 pm PST
Could it be that the skin of creatures function as armor, and that damage delivered has to be higher than the armor's protection value, for the creature to take any damage?no. you're definitely encountering something weird. move closer to the lox to check its hp bar and see what's going on.
(Damage taken = damage delivered minus armor value)
If so, the Valheim wiki should contain a value for the creatures skin armor.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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T-82 replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 3:46:13 pm PST
I don't really know, but Lox'es seem bugged for me too.
Reducing the distance seem to help, as from my experience when trying to snipe down loxes from afar I often Do hit the target and get zero reaction back.
Once I shoot it from afar and made sure I hit the target, when I came closer to check on Health the lox had full HP bar.
So I try not to shoot at them from great distances. As they will just soak the arrows/bolts and that's all.
Reducing the distance seem to help, as from my experience when trying to snipe down loxes from afar I often Do hit the target and get zero reaction back.
Once I shoot it from afar and made sure I hit the target, when I came closer to check on Health the lox had full HP bar.
So I try not to shoot at them from great distances. As they will just soak the arrows/bolts and that's all.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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ling.speed replied to Trying to kill a lox with a bow, and failing January 21, 2023 @ 3:56:34 pm PST
I've seen different mobs that cant find a path to target become semi-immune, it feels like some kind of safety mechanism might be bugging out.
Its very likely not intentional, as you can cheese other creatures in various ways... so its more like desync or out of sight protection thats stuck till you get closer and clear it.
Its very likely not intentional, as you can cheese other creatures in various ways... so its more like desync or out of sight protection thats stuck till you get closer and clear it.
12:13 am, January 22, 2023
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