Originally posted by coolAlias:

although I imagine for anyone playing multiplayer, they're going to be forced to kill lots of Dvergr to get everyone kitted out. Sad day for the Dvergr. :p

Yep that can certainly be something of an issue currently. I don't know how the staves and their components have been rebalanced in the public test yet, haven't actually bothered to try it so I've only read the notes.

How are dvergr a renewable resource of soft tissue? Once you pillage their outposts, that's it. They don't drop any on kill either

Originally posted by Forcedge:

How are dvergr a renewable resource of soft tissue? Once you pillage their outposts, that's it. They don't drop any on kill either

They can actually drop soft tissue as well as black marble.

Originally posted by Gregomoto:

Originally posted by Forcedge:

How are dvergr a renewable resource of soft tissue? Once you pillage their outposts, that's it. They don't drop any on kill either

They can actually drop soft tissue as well as black marble.

Yep, and that's actually how I discovered a use for the stuff, since I didn't interpret Huginn's words about "breaking their domes" literally enough. lmao

The cross bow is far less superior than the bow. Its long load time, cant load on the move, and randomly unloads itself makes it far worse than the bows.

Literally all vertical combat as never been addressed since day 1 of this game. Unless you get a mod to fix it. This makes spears, axes, and swords pretty useless.

The seekers wouldn't be so annoying if you could see in mistlands. They need to double the effective random of lamps and torches to remove the mist and possible remove about 20-30% of the mist and have some pockets of terrain visible. The mist is just too much.

Dungeons are a bit too hard to find because again of the mist. I'd rather see more Dvergr camps and less seekers personally, the dungeons are a bit sparse IMO. Maybe have the mist around the bug areas and not the Dvergr, and more of the dungeons around the mist areas so you have some kind of indicators to find them. This to me would perhaps make the new biome more enjoyable, playing in the mist was neat for the first 5 minutes then it just gold old and made most of us stop playing.

Originally posted by DredSilent:

The cross bow is far less superior than the bow. Its long load time, cant load on the move, and randomly unloads itself makes it far worse than the bows.

A carapace bolt to the weak point of a Gjall can take off half of its health in one sneak attack. The arbalest does lack the bow's mobility, but I think that's a feature - otherwise bows would be completely overshadowed by the arbalest. As is, both are viable and encourage different play styles.

Originally posted by coolAlias:

Originally posted by DredSilent:

The cross bow is far less superior than the bow. Its long load time, cant load on the move, and randomly unloads itself makes it far worse than the bows.

A carapace bolt to the weak point of a Gjall can take off half of its health in one sneak attack. The arbalest does lack the bow's mobility, but I think that's a feature - otherwise bows would be completely overshadowed by the arbalest. As is, both are viable and encourage different play styles.

Does the whole biome of mistlands not require mobility?

Originally posted by DredSilent:

Originally posted by coolAlias:

A carapace bolt to the weak point of a Gjall can take off half of its health in one sneak attack. The arbalest does lack the bow's mobility, but I think that's a feature - otherwise bows would be completely overshadowed by the arbalest. As is, both are viable and encourage different play styles.

Does the whole biome of mistlands not require mobility?

Not so much so as to prevent crossbows or virtually anything else in the game from being effective. You can even dodge most ticks with mere footwork so you can keep reloading. Overall mob density is lower than in other biomes so the high shot damage at the cost of DPS is usually a good thing.

It took me 9 infested mines to find 15 black cores, which looking back doesn't seem that bad except in the meantime I had to constantly break down and swap crafting stations. Not terrible, but not ideal, either.

Core counts for the 10 mines I've completed are 4-2-1-0-1-1-2-1-3-1 - first one was very lucky, without that I'd still be out there looking for mines.

Also, I finally tried the magic, and it's really fun. The frost staff works pretty well against seekers, and the staff of protection seems essential to survival as a mage.

I'd like to see some more higher-tier balanced foodstuffs that give equal amounts of all 3 stats like the raw Magecap, for example a mushroom platter with Yellow Mushroom, Magecap, and Jotun Puffs that gives 40/40/40 or something, and just more of the balanced food types in general, along with some earlier access to magic foods like I suggested earlier.

I'd recommend saving that sausage for simpler biomes. I still have loads of it too (and materials to make more), but it just won't cut it for mistlands.

Dvergr are a renewable source for soft tissue. :p But currently you only need a limited amount of eitr since it's not used for any consumable items.

Dunno if you've read about the current changes on the public test patch, but they should address some of the more frequent concerns about the new content.

Sausage isn't terrible - I explored most of mistlands using it with bread and lox meat pie - but it's something I already have tons of ingredients to make if I want it and so it doesn't feel very rewarding to find in a "secret" treasure room.

Good point about the soft tissue not being used for consumables, although I imagine for anyone playing multiplayer, they're going to be forced to kill lots of Dvergr to get everyone kitted out. Sad day for the Dvergr. :p

In general, I'm very happy with the Mistlands update as it currently is, so I'm curious to see what, exactly, the changes are they're going to make (not just "changed crafting costs" but the actual quantities etc.).

I don't mind reducing Seeker Soldier spawn rates a bit, as they do seem too common and mandibles aren't really needed after you craft a few things, but Gjall spawn rates feel fine to me, especially if they can only launch one fireball at a time. Once you have the arbalest, Gjall aren't nearly as terrifying.