Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars

I got a surprise logging into Valheim. ALL my tamed boars were dead, like more than 20 in the pen and one I name Frank that roamed around my compound. There was no real visible sign of the fort being breached. There was one bee hive knocked down and two others needing repair (out of 24 of them). I was under the assumption that things stayed the same until you got back online. No holes in the wall and no roofs destroyed or damaged. I lured another boar inside, got him tamed then brought in two more in the compound area. I had my character sleep but when awaken, heard squeals and the two roaming (untame) the compound were dead. The newly tamed on in the pen was fine. Do I have killer bees?
5:13 pm, September 19, 2022
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knighttemplar1960 replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 7:42:57 pm PDT

Originally posted by avatar.zero:
Originally posted by 76561198040606479:
If you neglect your boars they can die of starvation.

After how long? I ask because we have some boars that have been neglected for about 500 days that are still alive (I know because I'm the only one that's been on for that time and never fed them).
I'm not sure. I do know that one of the players on the server I play on created a base and tamed boars and then abandoned the game. I would occasionally stop at that base to recover my rested bonus but the rule for people on the server was not to mess with someone else's base. After a couple of weeks of play when I stopped by there to rest all the boars were dead, there was no damage to the base, just sparkles coming up from boar meat and leather scrap piles.



Originally posted by Renie:
I ran an experiment. I brought in another (untamed) boar and led it to the bee hives. I had a set of stone stairs but have taken them down since. The boar aggro the bees even in the rain where they are not flying around and eventually killed the boar. The one bee hive was damaged in the process. Although this all happened when I was not online or when I ran in and just headed inside and didn't notice for it was late and went offline.. but I think now Frank aggro the bees (even if he was tamed) and probably ran down to the pen area, bringing them there before back and killed. The bees then went after the other boars, if that is possible.. but they were all dead inside the pen up the end closest (at a distance) to the bee hives. The bees also attacked my character but did little to no damage, they mainly went after the boar.

I've thank everyone who gave input for this mystery.
I have tamed boars and bees right next to each other in one early base and they have never aggroed on each other. (If an untamed boar damages a bee hive the bees will aggro just like the bees do if you accidentally left click on the hive instead of pressing "E"). I bet there is still something weird going on there. I also have tamed boars and tamed wolves in the same pen and they don't aggro on each other. The wolves will aggro on non-tamed boars but they won't damage their enclosure to get to them.
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Zeppion replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 4:37:57 pm PDT

You're right. I forgot about that. This happened to a friend of mine once, and we couldn't figure it out either. It's a mystery.
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Renie replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 4:42:44 pm PDT

Originally posted by warrenchmobile:
Twenty dead tamed boar in a pen, one dead tamed boar, Frank, killed while roaming your base. Twenty-one undamaged domestic bee hives, two damaged domestic bee hives, and one destroyed domestic bee hive. No other damage discovered. That could be a civil war between domestic creatures.
Questions I would ask:

1) Are any of the bee hives close enough to the pen that the boar inside could aggro the bees?

2) Presumably, the twenty dead tamed boar inside the pen dropped all their boar meat and leather scraps inside the pen. How close to the boar pen were Frank's drops?

What I am thinking here is that a civil war between domestic creatures would require one of the boar to aggro the bees. If the boar in the pen were not close enough to the hives to aggro the bees, why did the bees attack them? If Frank stirred up the bees, he could have led them to the pen. If he died some distance from the pen, that might indicate that he did not. Perhaps an unknown third party is responsible for all the deaths.

If I were you, I would ensure that all my domestic bee hives were located where no domestic boar could aggro the bees. If you allowed another Frank, your apiary would have to be some height off the ground. That would require a system of ladders or stairs which I viking could only accessed by jumping. Frank would be able to run under the hives, but the vertical distance would still put him out of aggro range.

With this precaution in place, should you lose more boar and hives, a third party is almost certainly at work.

>>>>>>>>> The compound is basically a rectangle. Upper left is where 24 beehives sit on a raised stone foundation, on perpendicular short logs. Frank (tamed boar) was dead up near the beehives, up near the dead queen actually. Meat and leather were left. Now the pen with 24+, most were all down the one end (upper top), meat and leather left.It would be located half way down the triangle to the right. The area is contained by doors, some double doors. The hives are not that close to the pen. The two new ones being tamed died up near the bees too. No bees died this time. I have one boar tamed now in the pen and is still alive last time I looked earlier today.

The compound is mostly open except the house, boathouse, portal room, a tower, and all the catwalks around the outer walls to fight off Trolls, which now just stand there and let me shoot them! I've a moat around the complex too. Enclosed covered bridges that cross the moat which allow one to stand on top to kill invaders outside. They can't get in for this design. I have not killed the Boss that would bring the drakes.

Still this all happened while I was offline for a month or so.. which is what makes it very strange. Frank has been roaming a long time as well the other boars in the pen hanging out and no problems.

I will add that the realm is just of my making, no one else there.
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knighttemplar1960 replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 4:55:08 pm PDT

If you have a gap in your work bench coverage an enemy can spawn inside your base There might be a grayling running around inside. If you have an earthen berm around your base a troll can throw rocks over it. They target livestock first (including bee hives) then target crops.

Even if you have adequate work bench coverage things can still occasionally have creatures spawn inside as you can see here.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2860289081

To keep monsters off of your live stock you can build a barn to keep them in and if you hear squealing you can go check on the boars. The boars will be frightened and squeal even if they can't see or be seen or reached by the monster.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853688746

If you neglect your boars they can die of starvation.
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avatar.zero replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 5:16:54 pm PDT

Originally posted by 76561198040606479:
If you neglect your boars they can die of starvation.

After how long? I ask because we have some boars that have been neglected for about 500 days that are still alive (I know because I'm the only one that's been on for that time and never fed them).
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Renie replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 5:22:27 pm PDT

I ran an experiment. I brought in another (untamed) boar and led it to the bee hives. I had a set of stone stairs but have taken them down since. The boar aggro the bees even in the rain where they are not flying around and eventually killed the boar. The one bee hive was damaged in the process. Although this all happened when I was not online or when I ran in and just headed inside and didn't notice for it was late and went offline.. but I think now Frank aggro the bees (even if he was tamed) and probably ran down to the pen area, bringing them there before back and killed. The bees then went after the other boars, if that is possible.. but they were all dead inside the pen up the end closest (at a distance) to the bee hives. The bees also attacked my character but did little to no damage, they mainly went after the boar.

I've thank everyone who gave input for this mystery.
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Renie replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 5:23:42 pm PDT

BTW.. on boars starving... I read in Valheim notes that boars don't die of starvation and you only feed them to procreate if you have enough room.. size of their pen.
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warrenchmobile replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 2:33:02 pm PDT

Twenty dead tamed boar in a pen, one dead tamed boar, Frank, killed while roaming your base. Twenty-one undamaged domestic bee hives, two damaged domestic bee hives, and one destroyed domestic bee hive. No other damage discovered. That could be a civil war between domestic creatures.
Questions I would ask:

1) Are any of the bee hives close enough to the pen that the boar inside could aggro the bees?

2) Presumably, the twenty dead tamed boar inside the pen dropped all their boar meat and leather scraps inside the pen. How close to the boar pen were Frank's drops?

What I am thinking here is that a civil war between domestic creatures would require one of the boar to aggro the bees. If the boar in the pen were not close enough to the hives to aggro the bees, why did the bees attack them? If Frank stirred up the bees, he could have led them to the pen. If he died some distance from the pen, that might indicate that he did not. Perhaps an unknown third party is responsible for all the deaths.

If I were you, I would ensure that all my domestic bee hives were located where no domestic boar could aggro the bees. If you allowed another Frank, your apiary would have to be some height off the ground. That would require a system of ladders or stairs which I viking could only accessed by jumping. Frank would be able to run under the hives, but the vertical distance would still put him out of aggro range.

With this precaution in place, should you lose more boar and hives, a third party is almost certainly at work.
11:13 pm, September 19, 2022
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[SWF]Phier replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 2:37:13 pm PDT

Obviously work of the chupacabra.

Jokes aside my first thought was bats but it sounds like you had them walled off and roofed so dunno.
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Zeppion replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 2:38:28 pm PDT

Could've been poisoned. Shamans kill my boar all the time because their attack goes through the walls. Dedicated servers keep going when you're not playing, or it may have been an accident and the game didn't turn off when you stopped playing.
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Ryzilynt replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 2:40:39 pm PDT

Originally posted by Zeppion:
Dedicated servers keep going when you're not playing.

Only if there is someone there (like another player)

When you are not present on a dedicated server torches do not burn, boar do not procreate, mobs do not spawn etc.
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Renie replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 11:03:50 am PDT

It was the regular biom, had it been the plains the deathkitos would have been the answer.
8:13 pm, September 19, 2022
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Arpello replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 11:33:22 am PDT

If you are getting raids while online the new one with bats will kill them.
Happened to me was a nightmare to get the new two star boar in the pen.
after taming Enclosed and roofed the pen so it would not happen again so far so good.
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Renie replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 12:28:20 pm PDT

I was offline for many weeks actually, came online to find them all dead. Starter biom, meadows. I have a stone, very large compound. Are bats in the meadows? I've not seen any, the last two were killed in the very morning. Started to replace them. There was no 'announcement' of an incoming raid like before. This is why it has me baffled unless I missed some new changes that would cause it.
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pumas replied to Strange Occurrence with Tamed Boars September 19, 2022 @ 9:43:48 am PDT

in which biom you build your compound? sounds like plains/deathkitos or something.
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