Crafting Hammer Paralysis.

C.H.P. (Crafting Hammer Paralysis) Is really making it difficult for a new player I've introduced to the game. Like I was when I started, he is constantly struggling to understand why he can't open up a chest, a door etc, and I have to constantly remind him that he has to "unequip" his crafting hammer.

I sure hope devs understand how frustrating this mechanic can be to some players. I've struggled to wrap head around why it has to be this way.

Also the three different modes of crafting to me are incredibly clunky and unintuitive.

For example, to craft a hammer you click "tab" to open your inventory and a small crafting menu. To craft misc, benches, building parts, etc you have to equip the crafting hammer and then "right click". THEN... to craft weapons and armor you have to go to a bench.

Playing through again, and watching a new player struggle exactly as I did the first play through, just confirms for me that the design for crafting in this game could sure use some tightening up.

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ChinoValley replied to Crafting Hammer Paralysis. June 9, 2021 @ 10:25:40 am PDT

Hmmm--I know the issue you speak of but never bothered me. Just hit "R" to unequip, do your thing, hit "R" to re-equip the hammer. Seems okay to me but I can see how others may get frustrated if they're always carrying their hammer around and don't know they need to unequip it...and don't know about the "R" key to fast equip/unequip. As for the crafting methods...this feels more subjective, really. Crafting is fine, to me, it works and makes sense (mostly). Just don't have the same opinion I suppose but maybe the Home and Hearth update will clean up crafting process a bit.

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Originally posted by ChinoValley:
Hmmm--I know the issue you speak of but never bothered me. Just hit "R" to unequip, do your thing, hit "R" to re-equip the hammer. Seems okay to me but I can see how others may get frustrated if they're always carrying their hammer around and don't know they need to unequip it...and don't know about the "R" key to fast equip/unequip. As for the crafting methods...this feels more subjective, really. Crafting is fine, to me, it works and makes sense (mostly). Just don't have the same opinion I suppose but maybe the Home and Hearth update will clean up crafting process a bit.

It doesn't bother you. But its bothered me...and now my friend is having frustrations with it.

Its easy once you've got 700 hours in..i've finally gotten used to it. I still feel its unecessary.

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Meow replied to Crafting Hammer Paralysis. June 9, 2021 @ 11:16:33 am PDT

Hey devs

It's fine as it is.

Don't listen to the OP.

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Wait, it took you 700 hours to get used to it?

Wow, I've been playing this with 6 other friends, and nobody had any issues with it, at all.

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Originally posted by Meow:
Hey devs

It's fine as it is.

Don't listen to the OP.

EDIT:
Wait, it took you 700 hours to get used to it?

Wow, I've been playing this with 6 other friends, and nobody had any issues with it, at all.

If people are having problems with it, its not fine as is. Just because you dont have a problem, doesnt mean its not a problem - The game isnt made exclusively for you.

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Originally posted by Harry Gun:
Originally posted by Meow:
Hey devs

It's fine as it is.

Don't listen to the OP.

EDIT:
Wait, it took you 700 hours to get used to it?

Wow, I've been playing this with 6 other friends, and nobody had any issues with it, at all.
If people are having problems with it, its not fine as is. Just because you dont have a problem, doesnt mean its not a problem - The game isnt made exclusively for you.

^ This.

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If people are having problems with it, its not fine as is. Just because you dont have a problem, doesnt mean its not a problem - The game isnt made exclusively for you.

Not made made exclusively for me?
No sh't sherlock, you don't say.
But consider this. 7 people, no issues with it
ChinoValley, is fine with it.
now people 8 is okay as it is.
OP and his friend, aka 2 people, struggle.

in the end, 8 vs 2.
How about you? Are you okay with how the mechanics work, or not?

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Originally posted by Gunther Ultrabolt Novacrunch:

It doesn't bother you. But its bothered me...and now my friend is having frustrations with it.

Its easy once you've got 700 hours in..i've finally gotten used to it. I still feel its unecessary.

Necessary or not, it is a pretty minor issue. I only just started playing and have about 70 hrs (not 700) invested in the game. I sometimes forget to unequip crafting hammer, but just hitting any hotbar unequips immediately.

Step 1) Try to open chest
Step 2) hit number 1 on keyboard and equip shield
Step 3) Open chest

I am not trying to be mocking here, but the game does have a few issues that need to be addressed before release. I just don;t think this one is that big.

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Meow replied to Crafting Hammer Paralysis. June 9, 2021 @ 11:39:14 am PDT

Aka now 9 vs 2?

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PakaNoHida replied to Crafting Hammer Paralysis. June 9, 2021 @ 11:41:08 am PDT

10, and knowing how my homies roll, I can safely say its up to 13.

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SoundDrout replied to Crafting Hammer Paralysis. June 9, 2021 @ 11:48:30 am PDT

It's a pretty minor issue, but it can be fixed with a mod like "Interact While Building" by tonsit, just search it up on nexusmods.

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Mharr replied to Crafting Hammer Paralysis. June 9, 2021 @ 11:49:16 am PDT

Come on, it's absolutely annoying that you have to put the hammer away to open a door or grab more resources while building, especially when it doesn't apply to other equipped items. There's no obvious need for it ('Use' doesn't do something different with the hammer equipped) and the Interact While Building mod is existence proof that it's unnecessary.

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Originally posted by PakaNoHida:
10, and knowing how my homies roll, I can safely say its up to 13.

Now, tbh it isn't like I have zero problems with it, I just do not consider it a major issue. After all, there are only a couple mouse clicks you can do to open/close/repair/destroy/attack/drop/use/etc. so to complain that one of those simple clicks doesn't work the same when you are in build mode as it does in combat mode is a bit of a reach.

I am much more interested in pathing issues, balancing crafting/combat, steep learning curve with little/no guidance, redrawing land features as you excavate/build, and the weird spawning events. So, this problem, while I have noticed it, didn't even register on my consciousness until I saw this discussion thread.

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Malindros replied to Crafting Hammer Paralysis. June 9, 2021 @ 12:49:33 pm PDT

Let me get this straight, people are having issues remembering to press a button in a game to switch modes.

Let me ask this question, would you attempt to make a sandwhich holding a hammer? how about piloting a boat while holding a hammer, or fishing, or the list goes on and on.

Sounds like a personal issue that the devs should ignore.

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Originally posted by Gunther Ultrabolt Novacrunch:
Originally posted by ChinoValley:
Hmmm--I know the issue you speak of but never bothered me. Just hit "R" to unequip, do your thing, hit "R" to re-equip the hammer. Seems okay to me but I can see how others may get frustrated if they're always carrying their hammer around and don't know they need to unequip it...and don't know about the "R" key to fast equip/unequip. As for the crafting methods...this feels more subjective, really. Crafting is fine, to me, it works and makes sense (mostly). Just don't have the same opinion I suppose but maybe the Home and Hearth update will clean up crafting process a bit.

It doesn't bother you. But its bothered me...and now my friend is having frustrations with it.

Its easy once you've got 700 hours in..i've finally gotten used to it. I still feel its unecessary.

If this is you and your friends frustration in life, your guy's lives must be real cushy.

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Originally posted by Malindros:
Let me get this straight, people are having issues remembering to press a button in a game to switch modes.

Let me ask this question, would you attempt to make a sandwhich holding a hammer? how about piloting a boat while holding a hammer, or fishing?

A. Yes. I make a mean slam sandwich.
B. Yes. It also explains why the rudder doesnt work and I crash into guard towers so much. If you see a dilapidated pile of stone, chances are that was me, sorry.
C. Yes. Its how they stop wiggling long enough to get on the hook. Its also good for dealing with sea serpents and occasional boredom.

Any more questions?

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