Level works on, what, +- 0.5m max? Meanwhile raise/pick works on +- 8m in larger chunks.
I'm hoping this is just a lack of specificity issue, no-one should be limited to 1m raise/lower.

Originally posted by umop-apisdn:

Citation needed; that sounds like either a bug, or player error.
"Pics or it didn't happen."

Have you played the game?

All it takes is trying to flatten out the first area for your first house or trying to dig out a copper node to see that the hoe doesn't dig down eight metres all the time.

Eight metres is taller than you. I have had the ground barely move when trying to flatten it or dig out copper ore nodes.

Originally posted by Damedius:

Originally posted by umop-apisdn:

Citation needed; that sounds like either a bug, or player error.
"Pics or it didn't happen."

Have you played the game?

All it takes is trying to flatten out the first area for your first house or trying to dig out a copper node to see that the hoe doesn't dig down eight metres all the time.

The hoe doesn't really dig at all, and the specific comment being referenced was referring to tools and modes other than the hoe's default "level ground"; if you right-click while the hoe is equipped, you can choose to "raise ground", which uses 4 stones to increase the height of the ground it is used on by half a meter. This can be done up to 16 times in a specific location, raising the ground a total of 8 meters.

Originally posted by Damedius:

Eight metres is taller than you. I have had the ground barely move when trying to flatten it or dig out copper ore nodes.

Four times taller than you, if we're being specific; the character appears to be approximately two meters tall, inferring based on the measurements we can infer from the in-game objects (eg, "Log Pole 2m" appears to be the same height as a "wood wall" section, which is also the minimum height a character can walk through).

The tool for digging is called the "pick", which can dig a half-meter hole up to 16 times in a specific location, ultimately reaching a depth of 8 meters from the original ground elevation.

It sounds like you misunderstood what was being discussed, due to either inexperience with the tools in question, or reading while distracted. Let's just chalk this up to "player error", then, shall we?

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

You can only raise/lower ground by +/- 8 meters from where it started.

Often it's much less than that and uneven. Sometimes it's only 1 metre if it works at all.

Originally posted by Damedius:

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

You can only raise/lower ground by +/- 8 meters from where it started.

Often it's much less than that and uneven. Sometimes it's only 1 metre if it works at all.

Citation needed; that sounds like either a bug, or player error.
"Pics or it didn't happen."

You can only raise/lower ground by +/- 8 meters from where it started. If raising ground with shift is too finicky for you there is another option. Raise ground, place stairs, then use the pick to lower the ground that has been raised above the stairs. The pick stops where the stairs start. This will give you a 26 degree slope instead of a gentle 5 degree slope but you can remove the stairs after and use the hoe to gentle the slope with a bit of practice..

not so finicky, once u get the hang of it. It really matters where you Stand vs where your target is, sometimes you have to use a pickaxe 1st before it levels completely.

Yeah Levelling doesn't seem to work well at all. You generally have to use your pick as well because you can't level most places and even them out.

I'm not sure if it's a design decision or something they can't fix but it's annoying.

I think it works fairly well considering you're using a tool made out of flat stone and a stick. The real perfection is in making even imperfections fit in.

Depends on the size of the hill, though again I wouldn't bother.

Hold shift while leveling ground to preserve the angle; this allows you to make a much better path than just clicking.

Also, is there a reason you can't cut into the hill? Just use the pickaxe to sort it. Click, take a step forward, click, take a step forward...

Can't really tunnel through a hill. You have to make a road around it, it's faster and saves time and effort.

You can hold shift when you level ground to level to the target height rather than where you're standing. You should be able to make a gentle ramp in this way, target just slightly lower than the last height, but I haven't played with it much - I often end up just making multiple runs to a boat over difficult terrain, it can be just as fast as doing the work to get a cart through.

the cart can be pulled up stairs but.. the heavier it is the harder it is to pull..

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

the cart can be pulled up stairs but.. the heavier it is the harder it is to pull..

Ah so two stacks of iron and two stacks of copper would be... difficult... to pull up stairs I imagine.