Wind programmed against you

It seems like the wind is programmed to go against you. What motivated me to make this post is I was just sailing and within a minute I had to change direction 3 times because the wind kept adjusting to go against me. It's like it's programmed to be frustrating.
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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76561198037044583 replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 11:25:24 am PDT

You guys are funny.
8:13 pm, September 2, 2022
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blankitosonic replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:26:03 am PDT

Winds takes a while to change , 1 minute is nothing
You most use tier 1 speed to sail without wind
And dont use the raft , that thing is crap
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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Mharr replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:36:17 am PDT

I think people discovered it's actually following a fixed pseudo-random pattern day by day, so if you'd sailed five minutes earlier it could have been with you all the way. Every tabletop gamer knows that dice have a sick sense of humour though.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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DivineEvil replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:49:53 am PDT

Winds never change more often than 5-10 minutes, thus you "adjusting 3 times a minute" simply means you've adjusted to a single gradual change of the current.

And yes, winds are random and can sometime even "predict" where you were planning to sail even before you get on the ship. Its just a combination of human tendency to seek patterns and the reduced attention towards situations that go their way.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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fiend replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:56:54 am PDT

I don't think it's confirmation bias. When I have to 'tack' to get to where I want to go 7/10 times, especially up a river, it seems programmed against me. While typing this comment the wind adjusted to be a direct headwind.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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Gromarch replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:59:16 am PDT

I have no qualms with the wind.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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Kinkeey replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 9:11:27 am PDT

the fix is to not have a goal and jsut sail where the wind takes you.

you will end up sailing in a circle tho, or paddeling back to land
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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M.Red replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 9:29:10 am PDT

on the other hand - did one managed to catch wind?
i dont believe there is a programmed "anti player" wind direction
the op just got unlucky
here we can set a RL example where the wind may change direction ignoring the direction one trys to move

or to temporarily use the wind for you - defeat moder and use his power
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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Gregomoto replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 9:29:27 am PDT

Kill Moder and use his tailwind buff ;)
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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jynx replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 9:39:41 am PDT

Put more attention into sailing. IRL people have to tack regularly, it's part of sailing. If you've got some of the wind in the direction you want, then sail at an 30-45 degree angle to where you want to go, adjusting when the wind changes.
It would probably quell some complaints if people could see themselves rowing, these are square sailed galleys after all. Having rowers was half the reason people were picked for viking raids anyway.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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Mharr replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 10:13:46 am PDT

You can test this yourself, back up your world and record the wind pattern for a few minutes, then reload the start of that day and check it again. I believe it's generating on a fixed seed wrt the game clock.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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PakaNoHida replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 10:58:09 am PDT

Originally posted by Mharr:
You can test this yourself, back up your world and record the wind pattern for a few minutes, then reload the start of that day and check it again. I believe it's generating on a fixed seed wrt the game clock.


A few minutes would not cut it.

You have storm and wind moving across the entire seed. So staying put in 1 place won't cut it because at sea you are always moving. Staying in 1 place on land a person can easily see the winds and storm systems change over the course of a day.



Originally posted by esbenmf:
Confirmation bias: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


Yup, you get it.

This is right up there with the conspiracy theory that it always rains when a person is putting a roof on a building.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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Mandos replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 11:02:54 am PDT

The gameplay secret OP is looking for is called tacking[sailoradvice.com] and it works.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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Zep Tepi replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 11:17:07 am PDT

According to the rule of least effort, it is highly unlikely that the wind is deliberately programmed to go against you. It's much easier for it to just shift by itself now and then than it is for it to run a check to see which way the character is facing and then to deliberately change direction to go against you. Why would they even put that much effort in to make players mad at them? That makes no sense.

Just go where you want to go. Use the paddle if tacking isn't an option, like in rivers, and consider the wind a gift when it's in your favor. I mean if you're in a river, going slower to avoid rocks and things is a good idea anyway.
5:13 pm, August 31, 2022
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Mharr replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 10:13:46 am PST

You can test this yourself, back up your world and record the wind pattern for a few minutes, then reload the start of that day and check it again. I believe it's generating on a fixed seed wrt the game clock.
9:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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PakaNoHida replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 10:58:09 am PST

Originally posted by Mharr:
You can test this yourself, back up your world and record the wind pattern for a few minutes, then reload the start of that day and check it again. I believe it's generating on a fixed seed wrt the game clock.


A few minutes would not cut it.

You have storm and wind moving across the entire seed. So staying put in 1 place won't cut it because at sea you are always moving. Staying in 1 place on land a person can easily see the winds and storm systems change over the course of a day.



Originally posted by esbenmf:
Confirmation bias: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


Yup, you get it.

This is right up there with the conspiracy theory that it always rains when a person is putting a roof on a building.
9:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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Mandos replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 11:02:54 am PST

The gameplay secret OP is looking for is called tacking[sailoradvice.com] and it works.
9:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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Zep Tepi replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 11:17:07 am PST

According to the rule of least effort, it is highly unlikely that the wind is deliberately programmed to go against you. It's much easier for it to just shift by itself now and then than it is for it to run a check to see which way the character is facing and then to deliberately change direction to go against you. Why would they even put that much effort in to make players mad at them? That makes no sense.

Just go where you want to go. Use the paddle if tacking isn't an option, like in rivers, and consider the wind a gift when it's in your favor. I mean if you're in a river, going slower to avoid rocks and things is a good idea anyway.
9:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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blankitosonic replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:26:03 am PST

Winds takes a while to change , 1 minute is nothing
You most use tier 1 speed to sail without wind
And dont use the raft , that thing is crap
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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Mharr replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:36:17 am PST

I think people discovered it's actually following a fixed pseudo-random pattern day by day, so if you'd sailed five minutes earlier it could have been with you all the way. Every tabletop gamer knows that dice have a sick sense of humour though.
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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DivineEvil replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:49:53 am PST

Winds never change more often than 5-10 minutes, thus you "adjusting 3 times a minute" simply means you've adjusted to a single gradual change of the current.

And yes, winds are random and can sometime even "predict" where you were planning to sail even before you get on the ship. Its just a combination of human tendency to seek patterns and the reduced attention towards situations that go their way.
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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fiend replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:56:54 am PST

I don't think it's confirmation bias. When I have to 'tack' to get to where I want to go 7/10 times, especially up a river, it seems programmed against me. While typing this comment the wind adjusted to be a direct headwind.
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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Gromarch replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 8:59:16 am PST

I have no qualms with the wind.
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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Kinkeey replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 9:11:27 am PST

the fix is to not have a goal and jsut sail where the wind takes you.

you will end up sailing in a circle tho, or paddeling back to land
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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M.Red replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 9:29:10 am PST

on the other hand - did one managed to catch wind?
i dont believe there is a programmed "anti player" wind direction
the op just got unlucky
here we can set a RL example where the wind may change direction ignoring the direction one trys to move

or to temporarily use the wind for you - defeat moder and use his power
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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Gregomoto replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 9:29:27 am PST

Kill Moder and use his tailwind buff ;)
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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jynx replied to Wind programmed against you February 2, 2022 @ 9:39:41 am PST

Put more attention into sailing. IRL people have to tack regularly, it's part of sailing. If you've got some of the wind in the direction you want, then sail at an 30-45 degree angle to where you want to go, adjusting when the wind changes.
It would probably quell some complaints if people could see themselves rowing, these are square sailed galleys after all. Having rowers was half the reason people were picked for viking raids anyway.
6:13 pm, February 2, 2022
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