My experience in valheim (please bear with the length)
First off I love this game, the building is fun, the combat is fun, the scenery is beautiful and the world feels alive but not cluttered.
What I love about the building is how complex it is. You actually have to put thought into how you're building your structure or it will fall apart. You have to build support beams to make sure your roof doesn't just collapse. It also gives you a lot of freedom cause you can put any building piece onto what ever part of your structure you want. Yeah they can snap together but you're not limited to that. I built a shelf out of half floors for my storage unit and I've managed to build a number of different types of structures. It will take a lot of time and resources to get your building exactly as you want it but in the end you will find it incredibly satisfying.
The combat is both challenging but not too complex. Usually the first enemy you'll come across are the greylings, then the greydwarfs, and the greydwarf brutes, then the greydwarf shaman, and eventually trolls. Now I haven't progressed far enough to know if there's more so this part will only include those few enemies. The greylings are fairly easy to deal with, even if they're in groups. I've found spears work best against them but it's up to you to decide your weapon of choice and build that skill up. Now if you're playing by yourself I suggest you get friends because otherwise once the other enemy types show up you'll mostly find them in groups and more difficult to deal with. The greydwarfs are like the greylings just a little stronger but still formidable in a group. Sometimes they'll have one greydwarf brute accompanying them. Now this is where the bad comes in. Now I have no problem with the weaker enemies having one or two stronger guys with them to even the odds. But I do have a problem when that stronger enemy is harder to deal with than one trolls. I've noticed that the brutes are only slightly slower than the dwarfs but their damage is much higher, so just running in circles around them won't work. You should get a shield and try your best to parry their attacks but even that leaves a very small window to attack them and you'll usually only get one or two hits in and it still wont take out a considerably chunk of their health, even with using a bronze axe. Trolls are at least have attacks that are easy to dodge even though they're almost faster than the player. The brutes become an even bigger challenge when backed by a shaman. The shamans can cast a poison attack that lasts for about 10-15 seconds. They can also heal themselves and surrounding allies but thankfully they're pretty easy to kill. But whenever brutes are involved they take priority but that also leaves an opening for their allies to get hits in on you while you're distracted. But if you focus on the dwarfs to dwindle their numbers then while you're attacking you cant really move well and the brutes attack range is wide enough to where it will hit you and deal a lot of damage.
Earlier today I spent FOUR hours trying to get copper. For some reason copper wasn't spawning in the black forest by my base so I went to another island and looked there. I built an outpost so i had a place to spawn then i built a cart. Now a cart helps you transport items that are too heavy to carry on your person so its really convenient and helpful there. The one downside is it's near impossible to travel across the map with it, especially uphill. It gets caught on random trees forcing you to cut the tree and potentially damaging the cart, it'll bounce on random bumps on the terrain then flip and roll down a slight hill and into a river where you cant get it, and it limits your movement in combat so you have to manually remove it from yourself to fight. So say you're walking through the woods with your cart and a troll comes out of nowhere catching you by surprise. You panic and try to disconnect the cart and run to keep it from damaging it. But in your panic you miss the very small hitbox to disconnect it and the troll smashes his club down on top of you and your cart. It doesn't destroy it on initial impact but it sends it rolling away. You make a mental note of where you left it and draw the troll away from your cart. You fight the troll and get close to killing it but it's gotten few hits on you too. Then suddenly two brutes pop through the tree line behind you and hit you catching your attention. While you distracted the troll runs up behind you and squashes you. You're pissed so you make the 5 minute long trek back to your body to get your equipment. Luckily the troll walked away but he seems to have gone in the direction of your cart. You quickly pick up your stuff and go find and kill the troll. You find your cart and finally you're back on track. Now you're looking for copper which can only be found in the black forest. A good way to identify it is via the sunlight reflecting off it. You find it and have to beat away with your pickaxe but it takes forever just to get one stack and in that time you're attacked over and over again by greydwarfs.
4 hours later and you finally have two stacks of copper. Enough to set you up with new set of equipment and workbench upgrades. You're making the trek back to your outpost with high spirits but you come across a greydwarf spawner, normally you'd want to take it out and keep more enemies out of the woods but with all the goods you're hauling you dont want to risk it so you decide to sneak around. Now sneaking with a cart is super hard because it makes you so slow so you're taking forever to leave the woods. Once you get close to a clearing you have the unfortunate luck of your cart hitting a bump and flipping over down the hill closer to the spawner. Thankfully it gets caught on a tree but Oh No, the legs are wrapped around and you cant haul it so you have to cut the tree down. Now this draws the attention of ALL the greydwarfs by the spawner. So you have dwarfs, brutes and shaman chasing after you. Obviously you die and have to make another long trek to get your cart. You get there and get your equipment.
Eventually you get your equipment and draw the dwarfs away. You actually start to get the upper hand and kill them, but once you're on the last dwarf a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll pops out of the woods and attacks you. You draw to open ground and fight it with no arrows. It takes almost all of your health and item durability to kill it. At this point you're annoyed and pissed off because one bad thing after another has happened. You sneak your way back to the cart and what you see just makes your heart sink.
All the greydwarfs got respawned by the spawner and targeted your cart. When you get there its too late and they destroy your cart that was carrying four hours worth of copper. Its left in a box so you can pick it up but even one stack is too much to carry because it weighs you down. So your only option is to get another cart. But in order to make a cart you need nails, and to make nails you need bronze. And in order to make bronze you need copper. So before you break down and lose your cool over having spent four hours to get a vital material just for it to all fall apart in front of your eyes you close the game, go to steam, and write an essay. P.S: in case you haven't figured it out none of that was hypothetical.
Now I can't guarantee your experience your experience will be the same as mine. But I also can't guarantee it'll be any different. The game has more good moments than it does bad and I completely recommend trying the game and I definitely recommend playing with a few friends. Just be prepared for the eventually headaches that ensue.
What I love about the building is how complex it is. You actually have to put thought into how you're building your structure or it will fall apart. You have to build support beams to make sure your roof doesn't just collapse. It also gives you a lot of freedom cause you can put any building piece onto what ever part of your structure you want. Yeah they can snap together but you're not limited to that. I built a shelf out of half floors for my storage unit and I've managed to build a number of different types of structures. It will take a lot of time and resources to get your building exactly as you want it but in the end you will find it incredibly satisfying.
The combat is both challenging but not too complex. Usually the first enemy you'll come across are the greylings, then the greydwarfs, and the greydwarf brutes, then the greydwarf shaman, and eventually trolls. Now I haven't progressed far enough to know if there's more so this part will only include those few enemies. The greylings are fairly easy to deal with, even if they're in groups. I've found spears work best against them but it's up to you to decide your weapon of choice and build that skill up. Now if you're playing by yourself I suggest you get friends because otherwise once the other enemy types show up you'll mostly find them in groups and more difficult to deal with. The greydwarfs are like the greylings just a little stronger but still formidable in a group. Sometimes they'll have one greydwarf brute accompanying them. Now this is where the bad comes in. Now I have no problem with the weaker enemies having one or two stronger guys with them to even the odds. But I do have a problem when that stronger enemy is harder to deal with than one trolls. I've noticed that the brutes are only slightly slower than the dwarfs but their damage is much higher, so just running in circles around them won't work. You should get a shield and try your best to parry their attacks but even that leaves a very small window to attack them and you'll usually only get one or two hits in and it still wont take out a considerably chunk of their health, even with using a bronze axe. Trolls are at least have attacks that are easy to dodge even though they're almost faster than the player. The brutes become an even bigger challenge when backed by a shaman. The shamans can cast a poison attack that lasts for about 10-15 seconds. They can also heal themselves and surrounding allies but thankfully they're pretty easy to kill. But whenever brutes are involved they take priority but that also leaves an opening for their allies to get hits in on you while you're distracted. But if you focus on the dwarfs to dwindle their numbers then while you're attacking you cant really move well and the brutes attack range is wide enough to where it will hit you and deal a lot of damage.
Earlier today I spent FOUR hours trying to get copper. For some reason copper wasn't spawning in the black forest by my base so I went to another island and looked there. I built an outpost so i had a place to spawn then i built a cart. Now a cart helps you transport items that are too heavy to carry on your person so its really convenient and helpful there. The one downside is it's near impossible to travel across the map with it, especially uphill. It gets caught on random trees forcing you to cut the tree and potentially damaging the cart, it'll bounce on random bumps on the terrain then flip and roll down a slight hill and into a river where you cant get it, and it limits your movement in combat so you have to manually remove it from yourself to fight. So say you're walking through the woods with your cart and a troll comes out of nowhere catching you by surprise. You panic and try to disconnect the cart and run to keep it from damaging it. But in your panic you miss the very small hitbox to disconnect it and the troll smashes his club down on top of you and your cart. It doesn't destroy it on initial impact but it sends it rolling away. You make a mental note of where you left it and draw the troll away from your cart. You fight the troll and get close to killing it but it's gotten few hits on you too. Then suddenly two brutes pop through the tree line behind you and hit you catching your attention. While you distracted the troll runs up behind you and squashes you. You're pissed so you make the 5 minute long trek back to your body to get your equipment. Luckily the troll walked away but he seems to have gone in the direction of your cart. You quickly pick up your stuff and go find and kill the troll. You find your cart and finally you're back on track. Now you're looking for copper which can only be found in the black forest. A good way to identify it is via the sunlight reflecting off it. You find it and have to beat away with your pickaxe but it takes forever just to get one stack and in that time you're attacked over and over again by greydwarfs.
4 hours later and you finally have two stacks of copper. Enough to set you up with new set of equipment and workbench upgrades. You're making the trek back to your outpost with high spirits but you come across a greydwarf spawner, normally you'd want to take it out and keep more enemies out of the woods but with all the goods you're hauling you dont want to risk it so you decide to sneak around. Now sneaking with a cart is super hard because it makes you so slow so you're taking forever to leave the woods. Once you get close to a clearing you have the unfortunate luck of your cart hitting a bump and flipping over down the hill closer to the spawner. Thankfully it gets caught on a tree but Oh No, the legs are wrapped around and you cant haul it so you have to cut the tree down. Now this draws the attention of ALL the greydwarfs by the spawner. So you have dwarfs, brutes and shaman chasing after you. Obviously you die and have to make another long trek to get your cart. You get there and get your equipment.
Eventually you get your equipment and draw the dwarfs away. You actually start to get the upper hand and kill them, but once you're on the last dwarf a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll pops out of the woods and attacks you. You draw to open ground and fight it with no arrows. It takes almost all of your health and item durability to kill it. At this point you're annoyed and pissed off because one bad thing after another has happened. You sneak your way back to the cart and what you see just makes your heart sink.
All the greydwarfs got respawned by the spawner and targeted your cart. When you get there its too late and they destroy your cart that was carrying four hours worth of copper. Its left in a box so you can pick it up but even one stack is too much to carry because it weighs you down. So your only option is to get another cart. But in order to make a cart you need nails, and to make nails you need bronze. And in order to make bronze you need copper. So before you break down and lose your cool over having spent four hours to get a vital material just for it to all fall apart in front of your eyes you close the game, go to steam, and write an essay. P.S: in case you haven't figured it out none of that was hypothetical.
Now I can't guarantee your experience your experience will be the same as mine. But I also can't guarantee it'll be any different. The game has more good moments than it does bad and I completely recommend trying the game and I definitely recommend playing with a few friends. Just be prepared for the eventually headaches that ensue.
2:13 am, June 8, 2021
jonnin replied to My experience in valheim (please bear with the length) June 8, 2021 @ 6:59:51 am PDT
The cart was so much bother that I stuffed myself on stamina food and hauled 20 stacks of ore across the map, stopping to drop most of it and regen stamina every once in a while, then pick it all back up and repeat. You can carry 30 elephants on your back, if you put them down to take a break once in a while, and the better your food gets, the longer you can go before you need to set them down too. Its risky, you have little stamina to fight with if you get ambushed, but if you move carefully, you can do it.
2:13 pm, June 8, 2021
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Onion Rings replied to My experience in valheim (please bear with the length) June 8, 2021 @ 2:19:09 am PDT
oh my god I love you Honestly, the cart just isn't worth the hassle. I built one, hauled it around a little bit, and dumped it. However, if you really want to use it, you should probably know that doing a dodge will take you out of harness without having to find the little hit box to disconnect by using the E key.
11:13 am, June 8, 2021
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WhamyKaBlamy replied to My experience in valheim (please bear with the length) June 7, 2021 @ 10:28:04 pm PDT
Does no one makes paths when using carts?
I've seen a fair few posts that seem to indicate that people don't. Which is strange to me as a proper, smoothed road that follows the terrain well makes life a ton easier.
8:13 am, June 8, 2021
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lazerguidedlazerbeam replied to My experience in valheim (please bear with the length) June 7, 2021 @ 8:02:19 pm PDT
The grind seems to get only worse. Because you can't teleport metals, you still need copper for the forge, and you need to build a new base for the metal in the area after the black forest you will have to repeat the copper grind. At least as enough to get a new forge + upgrades. Then you still have to do the new metal grind. With stronger enemies.
But first you need to find a suitable new area after the black forest. I have yet to find one big enough despite my sailing and exploring over the last few days.
But first you need to find a suitable new area after the black forest. I have yet to find one big enough despite my sailing and exploring over the last few days.
5:13 am, June 8, 2021
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PakaNoHida replied to My experience in valheim (please bear with the length) June 7, 2021 @ 8:31:11 pm PDT
Does no one makes paths when using carts?
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Elidrin replied to My experience in valheim (please bear with the length) June 7, 2021 @ 9:06:27 pm PDT
I love the cart. But there is a trap built into it, and it is very easy to fall into. You see all those inventory slots and think I CAN FILL THESE AND DRAG IT. You then wonder why you can not move the wagon.
You can pull a wagon weighing 1000 over just about anything, take a pick or hoe just in case. 1200 and you need to watch for places you will get stuck but some of those you can still sprint thru. Ore gets heavy fast, wood a little less so, food items as an example you can carry a great deal of because of it's low weight per piece.
For trips you are going to have to make multiple times clear a path, develop a road of sorts. This is how and why roads ever existed to begin with.
At the end of the day the wagon is a useful tool as long as you understand YOU have to drag it and you only have so much strength to do so.
You can pull a wagon weighing 1000 over just about anything, take a pick or hoe just in case. 1200 and you need to watch for places you will get stuck but some of those you can still sprint thru. Ore gets heavy fast, wood a little less so, food items as an example you can carry a great deal of because of it's low weight per piece.
For trips you are going to have to make multiple times clear a path, develop a road of sorts. This is how and why roads ever existed to begin with.
At the end of the day the wagon is a useful tool as long as you understand YOU have to drag it and you only have so much strength to do so.
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joefitts63 replied to My experience in valheim (please bear with the length) June 7, 2021 @ 6:48:29 pm PDT
Honestly, the cart just isn't worth the hassle. I built one, hauled it around a little bit, and dumped it. However, if you really want to use it, you should probably know that doing a dodge will take you out of harness without having to find the little hit box to disconnect by using the E key.
2:13 am, June 8, 2021
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