Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking
He spams his attacks with little to no time to dps. He heals extremely fast. and adds keep spawning near him?
Maxed padded and frostner with fire prot med stam and healing and best foods for plains and i cant kill him. also yes i did clear the entire area of mobs before starting.
He wasn't always this hard. But solo he's unfair. Im all for hard survival but this is bs. Surely the devs tested this fight?
Maxed padded and frostner with fire prot med stam and healing and best foods for plains and i cant kill him. also yes i did clear the entire area of mobs before starting.
He wasn't always this hard. But solo he's unfair. Im all for hard survival but this is bs. Surely the devs tested this fight?
3:13 am, February 23, 2023
dirktoot replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 23, 2023 @ 2:45:27 am PST
Another nerf thread. Do you want the boss fight to be a cake walk? Why? I'm not going to suggest strategy, do this, or that or the other thing. What I will suggest is that Yagluth is very beatable--if what you're doing isn't working then alter your approach. Adapt. Don't cry for a nerf as a reaction, that's weak sauce. He's the 5th boss, he'll be a little harder but he's not impossible. You may need a different approach/mindset to overcome the challenge. Not trying to insult or put you down, I'm just saying demanding a nerf rather than exploring your options is not how you overcome challenges in hard survival games. Yeah, it's Early Access so there could be more tweaks here and there, but Yagluth has been around for quite some time and he's been beaten solo plenty of times--it's doable. I'd also suggest if you can't get past Yagluth, you're really going to have a hard time in the Mistlands. So please, think outside the box a little, use what's available (items and surroundings) and have patience during the battle. If one approach doesn't work, then alter the strategy a bit until you find a way that works for you. It's too easy to give up and blame the game. This is just my opinion but there are so many *NERF!* threads that it's almost a meme at this point.
I think we should just remove all these nerf threads entirely. If you struggle with content frame it as a question with an appropriate amount of humility.
'I struggle with boss X, what tips & tricks do you have for me?'
'Mistlands is really hard, how do you deal with the reduced visibility?'
'Trolls keep wrecking my base, what is the most effective way to keep them out?'
That is the way you phrase your questions as a novice. We don't need these nerf rants because you are salty you died a few times. That should be the bottom line.
12:13 pm, February 23, 2023
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Rhapsody replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 23, 2023 @ 2:58:05 am PST
Recently I took some video footage of Yagluth chasing me and my shield-sibling across the plains. His travel speed can be... disturbing.
AFAIK the fight has been the same about two years, maybe with minor bug fixes? It's not been tested just by the devs.
This is some general advice: If spawns remain a problem in any situation, you should begin the activity at the break of day. Sleeping exists for a reason. :) You can also set campfires around to prevent nearby enemies from spawning. It's a bit cheesy but so is getting chomped by lox when you're fighting a boss.
He wasn't always this hard. But solo he's unfair. Im all for hard survival but this is bs. Surely the devs tested this fight?
AFAIK the fight has been the same about two years, maybe with minor bug fixes? It's not been tested just by the devs.
This is some general advice: If spawns remain a problem in any situation, you should begin the activity at the break of day. Sleeping exists for a reason. :) You can also set campfires around to prevent nearby enemies from spawning. It's a bit cheesy but so is getting chomped by lox when you're fighting a boss.
12:13 pm, February 23, 2023
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Cobretti replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 23, 2023 @ 3:57:20 am PST
if it's world tied, people who want difficulty harder or easier will need to restart worlds
If every other dev team in this genre can build a game that allows for switching of difficulty with ease (without restarting world), I'm sure these guys can too, have faith, they know a little bit more about game development than you do it seems.
12:13 pm, February 23, 2023
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Mr. X replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 23, 2023 @ 3:57:30 am PST
Ok, but this is a Yagluth thread. She, not he. Moder is Loki's daughter.
It seems like half the players say Yag is too hard and the other half say he is easy. I found him to be hard, the meteors in particular. Some say if you get right up in his face that will protect you from them, but that wasn't working for me. So how do you really not get killed by the meteors?
They changed the meteors some time ago. It was possible to face-tank yagluth when the meteors came but NOW this is not possible anymore.
But its good they changed this because it felt like a bug that you could not be hit by the meteors when you stood right next to his face when the meteors came.
Do not trust all (old) Informations in the Web about Game-Mechanics in an Early Access Game because things will change over the time.
12:13 pm, February 23, 2023
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Hobo Misanthropus replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 11:07:56 pm PST
They're already caving in and giving a difficulty option eventually, and they're in a no-win situation in my opinion.
IF it's character tied, then anyone, regardless of world, can just alter the difficulty on the fly and steamroll someone else's world
if it's world tied, people who want difficulty harder or easier will need to restart worlds
And at the end of the day, it's just going to be a "Take less or more damage, and deal less or more damage" type of deal.
I think the only "Good" option would be for current settings to be "Normal" Easier halves damage, and "harder" doesn't increase damage taken, but increases the odds of Star Enemies appearing, including adding star variants that didn't exist before (Serpent, Abomination, Growths, blobs, oozers, etc).. Hard bumping 1* to 18% and 2* to 2% and "Extreme" bumping 1* to 39% and 2* to 11% with Lox, Boar and Wolf being the only exception to the increased * spawn rate.
IF it's character tied, then anyone, regardless of world, can just alter the difficulty on the fly and steamroll someone else's world
if it's world tied, people who want difficulty harder or easier will need to restart worlds
And at the end of the day, it's just going to be a "Take less or more damage, and deal less or more damage" type of deal.
I think the only "Good" option would be for current settings to be "Normal" Easier halves damage, and "harder" doesn't increase damage taken, but increases the odds of Star Enemies appearing, including adding star variants that didn't exist before (Serpent, Abomination, Growths, blobs, oozers, etc).. Hard bumping 1* to 18% and 2* to 2% and "Extreme" bumping 1* to 39% and 2* to 11% with Lox, Boar and Wolf being the only exception to the increased * spawn rate.
9:13 am, February 23, 2023
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UncleAcidic replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 7:55:45 pm PST
I beat Yag for the first time not too long ago. Frostner, 2 health+1 stam food, all available potions. I ended the fight with about 3 minutes of fire resistance left and I never needed bonemass. he doesn't call adds as far as I know, but you need to clean the area before the fight. I did get a skeeter during the fight even still tho. some poor folks get hunted during the Yag fight so just remember it can always be worse in Valheim too
6:13 am, February 23, 2023
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✪TANGALOG Humiliator replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 8:44:22 pm PST
How is he unbalanced? I've beaten him more than 15 times already. All you need is fire resist, Frostner, Silver Sword and Bonemass.
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Leftcoast replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 9:20:43 pm PST
She, not he. Moder is Loki's daughter.
6:13 am, February 23, 2023
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Zep Tepi replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 9:27:32 pm PST
Ok, but this is a Yagluth thread. She, not he. Moder is Loki's daughter.
It seems like half the players say Yag is too hard and the other half say he is easy. I found him to be hard, the meteors in particular. Some say if you get right up in his face that will protect you from them, but that wasn't working for me. So how do you really not get killed by the meteors?
6:13 am, February 23, 2023
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Hobo Misanthropus replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 9:39:39 pm PST
Ok, but this is a Yagluth thread. She, not he. Moder is Loki's daughter.
It seems like half the players say Yag is too hard and the other half say he is easy. I found him to be hard, the meteors in particular. Some say if you get right up in his face that will protect you from them, but that wasn't working for me. So how do you really not get killed by the meteors?
You can either use the fingers of stone around his Altar, you can sprint away from Yagluth in a straight line, or you can dodge roll with very good timing, so that your Invincibility frame absorbs the first meteor impact, but you roll out of the rest.
You can also block them with a tower shield.
6:13 am, February 23, 2023
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Subsonic replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 9:57:07 pm PST
Another nerf thread. Do you want the boss fight to be a cake walk? Why? I'm not going to suggest strategy, do this, or that or the other thing. What I will suggest is that Yagluth is very beatable--if what you're doing isn't working then alter your approach. Adapt. Don't cry for a nerf as a reaction, that's weak sauce. He's the 5th boss, he'll be a little harder but he's not impossible. You may need a different approach/mindset to overcome the challenge. Not trying to insult or put you down, I'm just saying demanding a nerf rather than exploring your options is not how you overcome challenges in hard survival games. Yeah, it's Early Access so there could be more tweaks here and there, but Yagluth has been around for quite some time and he's been beaten solo plenty of times--it's doable. I'd also suggest if you can't get past Yagluth, you're really going to have a hard time in the Mistlands. So please, think outside the box a little, use what's available (items and surroundings) and have patience during the battle. If one approach doesn't work, then alter the strategy a bit until you find a way that works for you. It's too easy to give up and blame the game. This is just my opinion but there are so many *NERF!* threads that it's almost a meme at this point.
6:13 am, February 23, 2023
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Honorable_D replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 6:29:17 pm PST
Dodge roll his ground slam and stand in the fire for awhile, pop a healing potion afterwards if needed—good way to get more DPS time on him. The fire resist pot should make this doable.
Dodge roll spam to the side when he does his beam attack and simply get behind one of the stone fingers to avoid the meteors.
Dodge roll spam to the side when he does his beam attack and simply get behind one of the stone fingers to avoid the meteors.
3:13 am, February 23, 2023
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ChiefBeef98 replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 6:32:08 pm PST
Dodge roll his ground slam and stand in the fire for awhile, pop a healing potion afterwards if needed—good way to get more DPS time on him. The fire resist pot should make this doable.
Dodge roll spam to the side when he does his beam attack and simply get behind one of the stone fingers to avoid the meteors.
Yeah i stay in the fire and can get 3-4 hits of before he summons meteors. Thats the only time that i can damage him since he pretty much auto casts his next attack. And between eikthyr and stam pots most of that is spent dodging.
3:13 am, February 23, 2023
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Hobo Misanthropus replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 6:35:07 pm PST
Well Yagluth is like the first boss that feels like a boss, so I can't really agree that he needs tweaking, if anything, all the other bosses should be buffed to feel more boss-like.
Your opportunity for melee uptime on Yagluth comes during and after his Novafist attack, where he slams the ground with an explosion leaving a deadly lingering fire dot around him. You need to be using Fire-resist Barley wine so you don't take lethal damage, but this is your best chance. You can also potentially bait him into face laser attack, which is good melee uptime if you can get around him.
Also, you should be using the Silver Sword against Yagluth, it's more effective, at comparable skill levels. The Crystal Battleaxe is also a really good option, but commit to a combo to get that last double-damage attack. Bonemass power can help here.
You should be using Bonemass power all the time now. Eikthyr's power is second best, but it's not a close second. Bonemass power will save you hundreds of time in the mistlands too.
Your opportunity for melee uptime on Yagluth comes during and after his Novafist attack, where he slams the ground with an explosion leaving a deadly lingering fire dot around him. You need to be using Fire-resist Barley wine so you don't take lethal damage, but this is your best chance. You can also potentially bait him into face laser attack, which is good melee uptime if you can get around him.
Also, you should be using the Silver Sword against Yagluth, it's more effective, at comparable skill levels. The Crystal Battleaxe is also a really good option, but commit to a combo to get that last double-damage attack. Bonemass power can help here.
Dodge roll his ground slam and stand in the fire for awhile, pop a healing potion afterwards if needed—good way to get more DPS time on him. The fire resist pot should make this doable.
Dodge roll spam to the side when he does his beam attack and simply get behind one of the stone fingers to avoid the meteors.
Yeah i stay in the fire and can get 3-4 hits of before he summons meteors. Thats the only time that i can damage him since he pretty much auto casts his next attack. And between eikthyr and stam pots most of that is spent dodging.
You should be using Bonemass power all the time now. Eikthyr's power is second best, but it's not a close second. Bonemass power will save you hundreds of time in the mistlands too.
3:13 am, February 23, 2023
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Nascarman replied to Yagluth is unbalanced and needs tweaking February 22, 2023 @ 7:06:55 pm PST
Ignore his damage and just kick his ass. Bonemass plus fire res and you can almost outheal his damage. If you try to dodge getting hit you’ll never progress in the fight. If you get in a good position you can even get the rocks to block meteors while you are attacking him.
3:13 am, February 23, 2023
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