Game world storyline problem
Here I am medicating that special stuff legal in some parts of the world for my seizures and it dawns on me....
WHO THE HELL IS BURYING PEOPLE IN THE LONGBOAT RUINS?!
We come to the Valheim seed world alone, no one around. Some day we get our wishbone and we note that there are treasures under the those long boat ruins....
...but who buried them? Are they former vikings Odin brought here & who buried them?
Who made the crypts? Did the greyfwarves do it? Who buried all these people with Viking rights? Is it the fulings giving religious respect to the fallen of Odin?
It's not going to keep me from playing, but I am just giggling at the missing story-line component here.
WHO THE HELL IS BURYING PEOPLE IN THE LONGBOAT RUINS?!
We come to the Valheim seed world alone, no one around. Some day we get our wishbone and we note that there are treasures under the those long boat ruins....
...but who buried them? Are they former vikings Odin brought here & who buried them?
Who made the crypts? Did the greyfwarves do it? Who buried all these people with Viking rights? Is it the fulings giving religious respect to the fallen of Odin?
It's not going to keep me from playing, but I am just giggling at the missing story-line component here.
12:13 am, November 29, 2021
PakaNoHida replied to Game world storyline problem December 5, 2021 @ 10:33:59 am PST
There's text written on some stones, sometimes you get a hint on what happened and how the buildings came to ruins, what's the story with the Draugr and so on.Let's recap. Their graveyards, and all their dead, have not to date back to the very day when the Gods destroyed them, and there were nobody left to burry them! Undeads, on the other hand...For now, the Stones don't tell if lazy vikings are cursed to become Greydwarves, or if they just stand in Valheim forever.
- Valheim was populated by a civilization that erected all the crypts, burrial chambers, graves of any kind, perhaps also any non-wooden abandoned structures (e.g. stone towers).
- The Gods destroyed these people, some of them being turned into undead (skelettons, draugrs).
- The depleted Tenth World was then used as the last home for depraved warriors' souls, who didn't earn a ticket to Hell (greydwarves), being like a lesser hell for them.
- Odin banished a few demons there as well, or primeval creatures having became too dangerous on Middle Earth or other worlds. Then the Tenth World was cut loose and left alone.
- Portents are bad, as it seems that the Forsaken have recovered from their initial banishment, shared Valheim between them, and are perhaps even able to return on the Tree and be a nuisance again.
- Odin tasks Valkyries to bring brave, yet not totally pure, warriors to Valheim, both as a personal trial purgatory, and as a mean to lessen the Forsaken by killing their avatars again and again.
- Vikings in Valheim are immortal until they earn access to Valhalla, and as such they never build graves for their buddies. Nonetheless, they are probably the builders of recently abandonned wooden structures, because such buildings are not to withstand Valheim's weather for long.
TL;dR: I don't see any major plot hole in Valheim's storyline.
Who buried the vikings in the Longship ruins... it seems some were not as immortal as you just claimed.
9:13 pm, December 5, 2021
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pipo.p replied to Game world storyline problem December 3, 2021 @ 5:07:50 am PST
There's text written on some stones, sometimes you get a hint on what happened and how the buildings came to ruins, what's the story with the Draugr and so on.
Let's recap. Their graveyards, and all their dead, have not to date back to the very day when the Gods destroyed them, and there were nobody left to burry them! Undeads, on the other hand...
- Valheim was populated by a civilization that erected all the crypts, burrial chambers, graves of any kind, perhaps also any non-wooden abandoned structures (e.g. stone towers).
- The Gods destroyed these people, some of them being turned into undead (skelettons, draugrs).
- The depleted Tenth World was then used as the last home for depraved warriors' souls, who didn't earn a ticket to Hell (greydwarves), being like a lesser hell for them.
- Odin banished a few demons there as well, or primeval creatures having became too dangerous on Middle Earth or other worlds. Then the Tenth World was cut loose and left alone.
- Portents are bad, as it seems that the Forsaken have recovered from their initial banishment, shared Valheim between them, and are perhaps even able to return on the Tree and be a nuisance again.
- Odin tasks Valkyries to bring brave, yet not totally pure, warriors to Valheim, both as a personal trial purgatory, and as a mean to lessen the Forsaken by killing their avatars again and again.
- Vikings in Valheim are immortal until they earn access to Valhalla, and as such they never build graves for their buddies. Nonetheless, they are probably the builders of recently abandonned wooden structures, because such buildings are not to withstand Valheim's weather for long.
TL;dR: I don't see any major plot hole in Valheim's storyline.
3:13 pm, December 3, 2021
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ShadowReaper replied to Game world storyline problem December 2, 2021 @ 10:25:11 pm PST
You are not the only Viking sent to Valheim.
Long before many have come, many have gone
Lost to their ways of old
Death does not exist in Valheim for it is Purgatory.
The Flesh buried Rots to the bone.
The Flesh unburied Twists and Gnarls into the Monstrous.
Long before many have come, many have gone
Lost to their ways of old
Death does not exist in Valheim for it is Purgatory.
The Flesh buried Rots to the bone.
The Flesh unburied Twists and Gnarls into the Monstrous.
9:13 am, December 3, 2021
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Draconifors replied to Game world storyline problem December 2, 2021 @ 11:29:11 pm PST
Yeah, draugr and dwarves do fight. Draugr win every time. Skeletons and draugrs cooperate, but skeletons and greydwarfs fight. I assume draugrs and greydwarfs would fight. So there are divisions and alliances among the mobs, suggesting some kind of history there.
And yes, the runestones tell quite a few stories about what happened in Valheim before the player character arrived. Ulf in particular has written a lot.
9:13 am, December 3, 2021
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GSK replied to Game world storyline problem December 2, 2021 @ 8:28:36 pm PST
Who's to say the Longship graves weren't dug out by the same people who made the swamp crypts? Or even still, who's to say the longship graves weren't created by other vikings wandering Valheim before you? Maybe a band of vikings met their fate, but a sole survivor placed the grave in remembrance of their comrades.
Some are the remains of those people before (and maybe after) the gods cast them down. A few of the other stones also mention some people coming to valheim with others. Some, especially with boat wrecks, could have just been others who crashed on the shore and were buried over time.
Plausible, but the stones around the longships seem to me like they would be moved there by someone or something which is where I am coming from.
6:13 am, December 3, 2021
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PakaNoHida replied to Game world storyline problem December 2, 2021 @ 1:58:07 pm PST
Yeah I know that but who buried them!
Some are the remains of those people before (and maybe after) the gods cast them down. A few of the other stones also mention some people coming to valheim with others. Some, especially with boat wrecks, could have just been others who crashed on the shore and were buried over time.
Plausible, but the stones around the longships seem to me like they would be moved there by someone or something which is where I am coming from.
3:13 am, December 3, 2021
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GunsForBucks replied to Game world storyline problem December 2, 2021 @ 4:17:53 pm PST
Yeah it was all part of the original world tree and just ended up a dump for enemies and cut loose. Guess Odin didn't care who was there at the time ha ha.
The only thing that bothers me is when I find a bolder in a broken down house.
Who builds a house around a bolder like that? Not like the bolder formed there after the house was built!!
The only thing that bothers me is when I find a bolder in a broken down house.
Who builds a house around a bolder like that? Not like the bolder formed there after the house was built!!
3:13 am, December 3, 2021
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GunsForBucks replied to Game world storyline problem December 2, 2021 @ 4:38:57 pm PST
You know now that I think about it... maybe the people there were cast out by Odin as well.
Odin is basically the God of modern man and our enemies in many cases are from nature fighting back against "progress".
So the people there were basically the equivalent of viking hippies and survivalists.
"Save the Leviathans" and all those living off the grid folk. Nature sanctuary we suddenly invade and start getting attacked by all the tree huggers.
Odin is basically the God of modern man and our enemies in many cases are from nature fighting back against "progress".
So the people there were basically the equivalent of viking hippies and survivalists.
"Save the Leviathans" and all those living off the grid folk. Nature sanctuary we suddenly invade and start getting attacked by all the tree huggers.
3:13 am, December 3, 2021
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Moonshine Fox replied to Game world storyline problem November 29, 2021 @ 3:13:09 pm PST
There's text written on some stones, sometimes you get a hint on what happened and how the buildings came to ruins, what's the story with the Draugr and so on.
Yeah I know that but who buried them!
Some are the remains of those people before (and maybe after) the gods cast them down. A few of the other stones also mention some people coming to valheim with others. Some, especially with boat wrecks, could have just been others who crashed on the shore and were buried over time.
12:13 am, November 30, 2021
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PakaNoHida replied to Game world storyline problem November 29, 2021 @ 11:46:04 am PST
There's text written on some stones, sometimes you get a hint on what happened and how the buildings came to ruins, what's the story with the Draugr and so on.
Yeah I know that but who buried them!
9:13 pm, November 29, 2021
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pipo.p replied to Game world storyline problem November 29, 2021 @ 12:20:29 pm PST
Their graveyards, and all their dead, have not to date back to the very day when the Gods destroyed them, and there were nobody left to burry them! Undeads, on the other hand...
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Jolie Rouge replied to Game world storyline problem November 28, 2021 @ 2:26:17 pm PST
There's text written on some stones, sometimes you get a hint on what happened and how the buildings came to ruins, what's the story with the Draugr and so on.
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Doesn't Learn From Mistakes replied to Game world storyline problem November 28, 2021 @ 3:03:03 pm PST
The lore bits you find tell you that people used to live in Valheim until they rebelled against the gods and were destroyed for their trouble.
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warrenchmobile replied to Game world storyline problem November 28, 2021 @ 3:20:37 pm PST
Perhaps Odin is the prototypical Director of Intelligence. And you have "no need to know."
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Polonius Ulf replied to Game world storyline problem November 28, 2021 @ 3:26:11 pm PST
Skeletons and draugrs cooperate, but skeletons and greydwarfs fight. I assume draugrs and greydwarfs would fight. So there are divisions and alliances among the mobs, suggesting some kind of history there.
I doubt the devs have decided on a backstory for Valheim, or if they will ever do more than throw out hints, which is OK with me. Not every mystery needs to be solved.
On the other hand, they may go in for an elaborate backstory (preferably without answering every question). It's cheaply done, it just has to be on runestones and the occasional ruin with a story to tell.
I doubt the devs have decided on a backstory for Valheim, or if they will ever do more than throw out hints, which is OK with me. Not every mystery needs to be solved.
On the other hand, they may go in for an elaborate backstory (preferably without answering every question). It's cheaply done, it just has to be on runestones and the occasional ruin with a story to tell.
12:13 am, November 29, 2021
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