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Why are there like 4 separate threads about achievements on the same page? Oh.. it was you Tarusa.

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Patience, it only has been in early access a few weeks.

How about letting them finishing the game first, and thinking about cheevos later?

I'd guess when the game hits 1.0, but do yourself a favor and try to stop putting so much importance on achievements. They're completely meaningless and turn gaming into a glorified checklist.

Achievements are kind of like killing all the bosses now thats an achievement.

Originally posted by SubTonic:

I'd guess when the game hits 1.0, but do yourself a favor and try to stop putting so much importance on achievements. They're completely meaningless and turn gaming into a glorified checklist.

I find them enjoyable. If it turns the game into a checklist for you, that's okay. For me, it's a big plus.

Originally posted by Reb Militia:

Originally posted by SubTonic:

I'd guess when the game hits 1.0, but do yourself a favor and try to stop putting so much importance on achievements. They're completely meaningless and turn gaming into a glorified checklist.

I find them enjoyable. If it turns the game into a checklist for you, that's okay. For me, it's a big plus.

Apparently not if it's currently preventing you from fully enjoying the game now. That's definitely not a plus, but you can keep gaslighting yourself about them. Not my problem.

i hope the devs add some cool achievements, but probably it will only happen after the release

Achievements likely wont happen until release.

Originally posted by SubTonic:

Originally posted by Reb Militia:

I find them enjoyable. If it turns the game into a checklist for you, that's okay. For me, it's a big plus.

Apparently not if it's currently preventing you from fully enjoying the game now. That's definitely not a plus, but you can keep gaslighting yourself about them. Not my problem.

I never once said it was preventing me from fully enjoying the game. I literally only said "achievements when" lmfao dumbass.

+1

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I don't get the obsession with achievements. I guess simply surviving and defeating enemies and bosses isn't enough of a feeling of accomplishment for many.

Originally posted by Trakehner:

I don't get the obsession with achievements. I guess simply surviving and defeating enemies and bosses isn't enough of a feeling of accomplishment for many.

I'm right there with you. Was it Microsoft Xbox that introduced this pointlessness? I distinctly remember there being a direct correlation with its release. I was all for it initially because i honestly thought those points from said achievements could be used as some sort of currency.

Nope. Just useless "gamer clout". I am increasingly thankful for relating so little to people nowadays.

Originally posted by ShaftAlmighty:

Originally posted by Trakehner:

I don't get the obsession with achievements. I guess simply surviving and defeating enemies and bosses isn't enough of a feeling of accomplishment for many.

I'm right there with you. Was it Microsoft Xbox that introduced this pointlessness? I distinctly remember there being a direct correlation with its release. I was all for it initially because i honestly thought those points from said achievements could be used as some sort of currency.

Nope. Just useless "gamer clout". I am increasingly thankful for relating so little to people nowadays.

Yup yup yup!

Because its early access very far to reach 1.0

Because it is in EA status. Doesn't make any sense to make achievements for a game that is going to change.
But I will offer you what I have offered others requesting this. I will give you asinine tasks with zero reward, so it will feel like you are working for achievements.
First task, jog around your starter island 3 times without stopping, ok go.

FFS, there was a thread about this yesterday!

I hope not. The game is much better without the busywork checklist looming in the background.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/892970/discussions/0/4143842265266200132/

Originally posted by IronLisa:

Originally posted by Dark70:

will it be added later? looking forward to the game...

It ha snot been decided yet :)

They haven't decided yet.

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

I hope not. The game is much better without the busywork checklist looming in the background.

achievements is a cool addition to the game

Originally posted by Karumati:

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

I hope not. The game is much better without the busywork checklist looming in the background.

achievements is a cool addition to the game

Achievements are manipulative padding that changes player behavior to drip-feed dopamine hits and increase engagement.

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

Originally posted by Karumati:

achievements is a cool addition to the game

Achievements are manipulative padding that changes player behavior to drip-feed dopamine hits and increase engagement.

is there any problem with that ?

Originally posted by Karumati:

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

Achievements are manipulative padding that changes player behavior to drip-feed dopamine hits and increase engagement.

is there any problem with that ?

... yes? Obviously?

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

Originally posted by Karumati:

is there any problem with that ?

... yes? Obviously?

no ? i don't see any problem adding achievements.

Originally posted by Karumati:

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

... yes? Obviously?

no ? i don't see any problem adding achievements.

Which isn't even in the same ballpark as there not being a problem.

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

I hope not. The game is much better without the busywork checklist looming in the background.

what makes it busy work? you don't have to actually acknowledge or complete them. It's just adds more to the game for people who like them.

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

Originally posted by Karumati:

achievements is a cool addition to the game

Achievements are manipulative padding that changes player behavior to drip-feed dopamine hits and increase engagement.

That is a pretty shallow way to view achievements. They're just another simple thing to add to the game for fun. I feel a bit sorry for you if your game play is so easily swayed by the simple addition of extra reward/goals that it ruins the whole game for you. Kinda sad imo.

+1
But maybe after EA or much later... i hope so.
I wish around 50-80 or more :D

They most likely will once the game is finished.

+1 I really like to hunt achievements.

This would be great once the game is finished (or at least a lot further into early access). I'm sure we'll see them at some point.

There MUST be achievement called HAPPY BEES. For checking on bees and getting message The bees are happy. Otherwise they may not add any achievement system at all.

Gotta finish making the game, first, friend.

No Achievements no buy, basic policy ;)

Originally posted by 501 Gurkoel:

No Achievements no buy, basic policy ;)

early acces game with achievements = a red flag

Achievements are based off of a completed work, knowing everything in your game and then rewarding people for various actions. If you have an Achievement system in Alpha, from experience, it means you have no intention on finishing the product as so many i've opted into that did, have done that.

Chill. Achievements usually come late beta.

Originally posted by HuH?:

Originally posted by 501 Gurkoel:

No Achievements no buy, basic policy ;)

early acces game with achievements = a red flag

Achievements are based off of a completed work, knowing everything in your game and then rewarding people for various actions. If you have an Achievement system in Alpha, from experience, it means you have no intention on finishing the product as so many i've opted into that did, have done that.

Chill. Achievements usually come late beta.

Wouldn't say its necessariliy a red flag. Many developers implement achievements parallely to development, as you can design its triggers properly and can test those directly with the appropriate build tests. Wouldn't say thats a bad thing. Designing a trigger and using Steam-API does not take a lot of time, if its done in active development. If you do it later you have to get into your specific algorythms again, rethink them and their functionality. This costs time and causes bugs, bugs which are not necessarily tied to the achievement but anything within the system, which need to be adressed then aswell.

Thats why you design a MVP in modern development. Mostly in addition with some agile work model like scrum.

This is how you design an MVP:
https://aktiasolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/MVP-Minimum-Viable-Product-Characteristics-Lean-Product-Management-AKTIA-Solutions.jpg
(just a picture)

One should judge a game's integrity by its content, reputation and quality and not wether it has achievements or not.