Survivor Challange
I thought of a potentially fun challenge.
Find a map seed that has an island (there must be one) that has all the biomes on it, dump the character in the meadows, and see how far they can get without leaving that island.
Obviously finding the right map is going to be key. Maybe it doesn't even exist, but, it seems like it must. It's also likely going to be at least mostly a no-boss challenge, since you're surely not going to find a single island with all the bosses. Finding one with Moder and Yagluth would be ideal, since both of those bosses lock content.
I suppose you could not have some biomes, like plains and/or mountain, for example, but, I think meadows (to start), black forest, swamp (for early iron), and mistlands (to prove you can master it) are a must. I suppose there are other combinations, like not having swamp and getting iron from mistlands, etc.
Anyone ever hear of such a challenge, or have a map that might work?
I've never done the no-boat challenge, but I suppose this is somewhat similar, with the distinction being that you can't swim to another island, and you would likely start (somehow) on a different island from the starter island.
Find a map seed that has an island (there must be one) that has all the biomes on it, dump the character in the meadows, and see how far they can get without leaving that island.
Obviously finding the right map is going to be key. Maybe it doesn't even exist, but, it seems like it must. It's also likely going to be at least mostly a no-boss challenge, since you're surely not going to find a single island with all the bosses. Finding one with Moder and Yagluth would be ideal, since both of those bosses lock content.
I suppose you could not have some biomes, like plains and/or mountain, for example, but, I think meadows (to start), black forest, swamp (for early iron), and mistlands (to prove you can master it) are a must. I suppose there are other combinations, like not having swamp and getting iron from mistlands, etc.
Anyone ever hear of such a challenge, or have a map that might work?
I've never done the no-boat challenge, but I suppose this is somewhat similar, with the distinction being that you can't swim to another island, and you would likely start (somehow) on a different island from the starter island.
9:13 pm, March 2, 2023
knighttemplar1960 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 7:13:52 pm PDT
Seed hmEdSvxVay
Has a large start island with all biomes except Mistlands and Ashlands.
Issues with that seed are that Haldor is not on the start island nor is the Elder, Moder, or Yagluth. There are crypts (but you'll have to use the chair glitch) and there are silver deposits in the mountains on the island.
Has a large start island with all biomes except Mistlands and Ashlands.
Issues with that seed are that Haldor is not on the start island nor is the Elder, Moder, or Yagluth. There are crypts (but you'll have to use the chair glitch) and there are silver deposits in the mountains on the island.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 3, 2023 @ 7:38:01 am PDT
I started the seed that I posted above last night, and the start was easier than expected. The meadows is pretty small and surrounded by black forest and plains. At first I was concerned that I would not find enough flint, boar or even stones to make a good start, but that wasn't a problem at all.
I already put a troll to work to get me the mats for a bronze pickaxe, and he and a buddy even donated me their hide for a bit of armor. Now working on making some bronze gear.
Turns out Haldor and The Elder are neighbors, so I setup shop next to the Elder firepit. It looks like meadows and black forest are going to be easy, but I think I'm surrounded by plains, so it's going to be more difficult to get to swamp, and I don't know how much iron is going to be there.
I already put a troll to work to get me the mats for a bronze pickaxe, and he and a buddy even donated me their hide for a bit of armor. Now working on making some bronze gear.
Turns out Haldor and The Elder are neighbors, so I setup shop next to the Elder firepit. It looks like meadows and black forest are going to be easy, but I think I'm surrounded by plains, so it's going to be more difficult to get to swamp, and I don't know how much iron is going to be there.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 11:11:45 am PDT
Just a couple of spins on the map generator showed that it should be possible.
lHDUKvyMq8 has a large island with a bit of meadows, and Moder and Yagluth. Looks tough, and there's not much swamp, so iron could be scarce, but I think it would work. It even connects to ashlands for future expansion!
lHDUKvyMq8 has a large island with a bit of meadows, and Moder and Yagluth. Looks tough, and there's not much swamp, so iron could be scarce, but I think it would work. It even connects to ashlands for future expansion!
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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jonnin replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 11:40:40 am PDT
moder feels like a must, or you are hard locked out of the tears for your station.
there were a few map seeds people used to give out with all bosses to plains on the main island.
if I had moder and iron, I think I could do pretty well.
its not too hard to get a continent that goes all the way to a pole, depending on how you feel about crossing rivers or swimming a small amount. Its a lot more doable if you just say 'no boats'.
there were a few map seeds people used to give out with all bosses to plains on the main island.
if I had moder and iron, I think I could do pretty well.
its not too hard to get a continent that goes all the way to a pole, depending on how you feel about crossing rivers or swimming a small amount. Its a lot more doable if you just say 'no boats'.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 11:51:05 am PDT
I think the key is for it not to be a continent that spreads across the entire map. The idea is to put you in a relatively constrained space where resources are constrained and, maybe you have to get through mistlands to get to swamp, etc.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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jonnin replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 12:11:45 pm PDT
well, given that, as the designer of the challenge, I would say provide a few seeds and say to use those for it. but its a neat idea.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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SK replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 12:35:20 pm PDT
Having all bosses on the same island is a easy seed, if they far away this would be challenging.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Zep Tepi replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 12:35:20 pm PDT
It's very difficult to find an island that has all current biomes with both meadows and mistlands. Almost impossible if you say it can't be a huge continent.
You can find them with blackforest up to mistlands though. I'm currently playing on one, no bosses on it though. But having all metals in walkable distance is nice.
You'd pretty much need to keep a list of suitable seeds because just finding one would be a challenge all by itself.
You can find them with blackforest up to mistlands though. I'm currently playing on one, no bosses on it though. But having all metals in walkable distance is nice.
You'd pretty much need to keep a list of suitable seeds because just finding one would be a challenge all by itself.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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vinyblaster replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 2:32:11 pm PDT
There are definitely lots of seeds with the first 5 biomes on an island. I played one a while ago. Mistland seems very difficult considering the constraint of radius from spawn.
That being said, what's the challenge exactly? Having all biomes together makes for a very easy run IMO
That being said, what's the challenge exactly? Having all biomes together makes for a very easy run IMO
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 2:48:51 pm PDT
No. I don't think you would want all the bosses. Like I said, I think the ideal might be to just have moder and yagluth for their unlocks.
I found a seed that has a perfect island, except for no meadows. I wonder how hard it would be at the start to not have leather scrap. I guess you wouldn't have honey either. You'd also be starting in black forest with nothing...
That's the challenge. You're limited to only what's available on that island. Limited iron, copper, tin, frost caves, boss items, etc. It's likely going to be mostly higher-end biomes as well if it has mistlands.
I found a seed that has a perfect island, except for no meadows. I wonder how hard it would be at the start to not have leather scrap. I guess you wouldn't have honey either. You'd also be starting in black forest with nothing...
That's the challenge. You're limited to only what's available on that island. Limited iron, copper, tin, frost caves, boss items, etc. It's likely going to be mostly higher-end biomes as well if it has mistlands.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Snow [☯] replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 3:05:51 pm PDT
ddAnxjGzLp Here's a seed for you. Contains all the biomes connected to the starting location. No boat needed. Contains all the bosses. There's a tiny bit of water separating the land-masses that amounts to a dirver, which you might be able to build a bridge over.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Rhapsody replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 3:08:30 pm PDT
ddAnxjGzLp Here's a seed for you. Contains all the biomes connected to the starting location. No boat needed. Contains all the bosses. There's a tiny bit of water separating the land-masses that amounts to a dirver, which you might be able to build a bridge over.
That Yagluth placement though.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 4:07:45 pm PDT
ddAnxjGzLp Here's a seed for you. Contains all the biomes connected to the starting location. No boat needed. Contains all the bosses. There's a tiny bit of water separating the land-masses that amounts to a dirver, which you might be able to build a bridge over.
That is a nice seed, but, as others have said, I think that might actually make the game easier rather than more of a challange, other than Yagluth, of course.
I think I found a good seed that is likely not too much of a challange, but looks like a good initial seed to test the concept with. I'll post info in a bit in case others might want to try it out.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 4:26:01 pm PDT
The seed is: nXLQRmRMZI
Starting location: -3608 -3215 (F5, "devcommands", "goto -3608 -3215")
This is how I'm going to play it:
- No map. It's not a huge island, so getting lost should not be a major issue.
- No portal, except placing a portal at spawn to activate boss powers, but the corresponding portal can only be built at boss alters. I brought in mats for the spawn portal so I wouldn't have to go back.
- The goal is just to master the island, whatever that means to you. For me that means I can go anywhere and build anywhere.
I, of course, know what bosses are there, which I would rather not know. I will say that there is no Eikthyr, and there is no Queen... Okay, the rest of the bosses are there, so it's shouldn't be too hard, but it's a start.
Starting location: -3608 -3215 (F5, "devcommands", "goto -3608 -3215")
This is how I'm going to play it:
- No map. It's not a huge island, so getting lost should not be a major issue.
- No portal, except placing a portal at spawn to activate boss powers, but the corresponding portal can only be built at boss alters. I brought in mats for the spawn portal so I wouldn't have to go back.
- The goal is just to master the island, whatever that means to you. For me that means I can go anywhere and build anywhere.
I, of course, know what bosses are there, which I would rather not know. I will say that there is no Eikthyr, and there is no Queen... Okay, the rest of the bosses are there, so it's shouldn't be too hard, but it's a start.
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Lacrimosa replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 5:18:23 pm PDT
I don't think such island exists in any seed but I did find one island with ALMOST all bioms on one large island on it in my world.
It has Meadows, Black Forest, Plains, Swamps and mountain. And all of them big enough
It has Meadows, Black Forest, Plains, Swamps and mountain. And all of them big enough
12:13 am, March 13, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 3, 2023 @ 7:38:01 am PST
I started the seed that I posted above last night, and the start was easier than expected. The meadows is pretty small and surrounded by black forest and plains. At first I was concerned that I would not find enough flint, boar or even stones to make a good start, but that wasn't a problem at all.
I already put a troll to work to get me the mats for a bronze pickaxe, and he and a buddy even donated me their hide for a bit of armor. Now working on making some bronze gear.
Turns out Haldor and The Elder are neighbors, so I setup shop next to the Elder firepit. It looks like meadows and black forest are going to be easy, but I think I'm surrounded by plains, so it's going to be more difficult to get to swamp, and I don't know how much iron is going to be there.
I already put a troll to work to get me the mats for a bronze pickaxe, and he and a buddy even donated me their hide for a bit of armor. Now working on making some bronze gear.
Turns out Haldor and The Elder are neighbors, so I setup shop next to the Elder firepit. It looks like meadows and black forest are going to be easy, but I think I'm surrounded by plains, so it's going to be more difficult to get to swamp, and I don't know how much iron is going to be there.
12:13 am, March 5, 2023
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knighttemplar1960 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 7:13:52 pm PST
Seed hmEdSvxVay
Has a large start island with all biomes except Mistlands and Ashlands.
Issues with that seed are that Haldor is not on the start island nor is the Elder, Moder, or Yagluth. There are crypts (but you'll have to use the chair glitch) and there are silver deposits in the mountains on the island.
Has a large start island with all biomes except Mistlands and Ashlands.
Issues with that seed are that Haldor is not on the start island nor is the Elder, Moder, or Yagluth. There are crypts (but you'll have to use the chair glitch) and there are silver deposits in the mountains on the island.
6:13 am, March 3, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 4:26:01 pm PST
The seed is: nXLQRmRMZI
Starting location: -3608 -3215 (F5, "devcommands", "goto -3608 -3215")
This is how I'm going to play it:
- No map. It's not a huge island, so getting lost should not be a major issue.
- No portal, except placing a portal at spawn to activate boss powers, but the corresponding portal can only be built at boss alters. I brought in mats for the spawn portal so I wouldn't have to go back.
- The goal is just to master the island, whatever that means to you. For me that means I can go anywhere and build anywhere.
I, of course, know what bosses are there, which I would rather not know. I will say that there is no Eikthyr, and there is no Queen... Okay, the rest of the bosses are there, so it's shouldn't be too hard, but it's a start.
Starting location: -3608 -3215 (F5, "devcommands", "goto -3608 -3215")
This is how I'm going to play it:
- No map. It's not a huge island, so getting lost should not be a major issue.
- No portal, except placing a portal at spawn to activate boss powers, but the corresponding portal can only be built at boss alters. I brought in mats for the spawn portal so I wouldn't have to go back.
- The goal is just to master the island, whatever that means to you. For me that means I can go anywhere and build anywhere.
I, of course, know what bosses are there, which I would rather not know. I will say that there is no Eikthyr, and there is no Queen... Okay, the rest of the bosses are there, so it's shouldn't be too hard, but it's a start.
3:13 am, March 3, 2023
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Lacrimosa replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 5:18:23 pm PST
I don't think such island exists in any seed but I did find one island with ALMOST all bioms on one large island on it in my world.
It has Meadows, Black Forest, Plains, Swamps and mountain. And all of them big enough
It has Meadows, Black Forest, Plains, Swamps and mountain. And all of them big enough
3:13 am, March 3, 2023
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vinyblaster replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 2:32:11 pm PST
There are definitely lots of seeds with the first 5 biomes on an island. I played one a while ago. Mistland seems very difficult considering the constraint of radius from spawn.
That being said, what's the challenge exactly? Having all biomes together makes for a very easy run IMO
That being said, what's the challenge exactly? Having all biomes together makes for a very easy run IMO
12:13 am, March 3, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 2:48:51 pm PST
No. I don't think you would want all the bosses. Like I said, I think the ideal might be to just have moder and yagluth for their unlocks.
I found a seed that has a perfect island, except for no meadows. I wonder how hard it would be at the start to not have leather scrap. I guess you wouldn't have honey either. You'd also be starting in black forest with nothing...
That's the challenge. You're limited to only what's available on that island. Limited iron, copper, tin, frost caves, boss items, etc. It's likely going to be mostly higher-end biomes as well if it has mistlands.
I found a seed that has a perfect island, except for no meadows. I wonder how hard it would be at the start to not have leather scrap. I guess you wouldn't have honey either. You'd also be starting in black forest with nothing...
That's the challenge. You're limited to only what's available on that island. Limited iron, copper, tin, frost caves, boss items, etc. It's likely going to be mostly higher-end biomes as well if it has mistlands.
12:13 am, March 3, 2023
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Snow [☯] replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 3:05:51 pm PST
ddAnxjGzLp Here's a seed for you. Contains all the biomes connected to the starting location. No boat needed. Contains all the bosses. There's a tiny bit of water separating the land-masses that amounts to a dirver, which you might be able to build a bridge over.
12:13 am, March 3, 2023
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Rhapsody replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 3:08:30 pm PST
ddAnxjGzLp Here's a seed for you. Contains all the biomes connected to the starting location. No boat needed. Contains all the bosses. There's a tiny bit of water separating the land-masses that amounts to a dirver, which you might be able to build a bridge over.
That Yagluth placement though.
12:13 am, March 3, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 4:07:45 pm PST
ddAnxjGzLp Here's a seed for you. Contains all the biomes connected to the starting location. No boat needed. Contains all the bosses. There's a tiny bit of water separating the land-masses that amounts to a dirver, which you might be able to build a bridge over.
That is a nice seed, but, as others have said, I think that might actually make the game easier rather than more of a challange, other than Yagluth, of course.
I think I found a good seed that is likely not too much of a challange, but looks like a good initial seed to test the concept with. I'll post info in a bit in case others might want to try it out.
12:13 am, March 3, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 11:11:45 am PST
Just a couple of spins on the map generator showed that it should be possible.
lHDUKvyMq8 has a large island with a bit of meadows, and Moder and Yagluth. Looks tough, and there's not much swamp, so iron could be scarce, but I think it would work. It even connects to ashlands for future expansion!
lHDUKvyMq8 has a large island with a bit of meadows, and Moder and Yagluth. Looks tough, and there's not much swamp, so iron could be scarce, but I think it would work. It even connects to ashlands for future expansion!
9:13 pm, March 2, 2023
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jonnin replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 11:40:40 am PST
moder feels like a must, or you are hard locked out of the tears for your station.
there were a few map seeds people used to give out with all bosses to plains on the main island.
if I had moder and iron, I think I could do pretty well.
its not too hard to get a continent that goes all the way to a pole, depending on how you feel about crossing rivers or swimming a small amount. Its a lot more doable if you just say 'no boats'.
there were a few map seeds people used to give out with all bosses to plains on the main island.
if I had moder and iron, I think I could do pretty well.
its not too hard to get a continent that goes all the way to a pole, depending on how you feel about crossing rivers or swimming a small amount. Its a lot more doable if you just say 'no boats'.
9:13 pm, March 2, 2023
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Faceplant8 replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 11:51:05 am PST
I think the key is for it not to be a continent that spreads across the entire map. The idea is to put you in a relatively constrained space where resources are constrained and, maybe you have to get through mistlands to get to swamp, etc.
9:13 pm, March 2, 2023
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jonnin replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 12:11:45 pm PST
well, given that, as the designer of the challenge, I would say provide a few seeds and say to use those for it. but its a neat idea.
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SK replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 12:35:20 pm PST
Having all bosses on the same island is a easy seed, if they far away this would be challenging.
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Zep Tepi replied to Survivor Challange March 2, 2023 @ 12:35:20 pm PST
It's very difficult to find an island that has all current biomes with both meadows and mistlands. Almost impossible if you say it can't be a huge continent.
You can find them with blackforest up to mistlands though. I'm currently playing on one, no bosses on it though. But having all metals in walkable distance is nice.
You'd pretty much need to keep a list of suitable seeds because just finding one would be a challenge all by itself.
You can find them with blackforest up to mistlands though. I'm currently playing on one, no bosses on it though. But having all metals in walkable distance is nice.
You'd pretty much need to keep a list of suitable seeds because just finding one would be a challenge all by itself.
9:13 pm, March 2, 2023
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