@devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter?

So i built this room, starting with a 50m iron pole in the center, on top of that i added 38 rows of flat roof, making a 152m square, surrounded by a 12m high stone wall (154m on the outside). I also added a stone floor, so you can substract 1m vertical space.

It doesn't count as a shelter. Right now i have to go up about 40m in the center to be considered sheltered and there's some small spots near the corners where i'm sheltered. As a matter of fact, if i go to one side of the room, the other side is not considered 'there' and the sunlight is shining through.

So what are the horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? Into how many compartments do i have to divide this room to be considered a shelter everywhere?

Concerning vertical, i want to avoid having to build stone floor in the air. Can i use roof tiles or wood floor as vertical separator? What's the maximum distance between roofs/floors?
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o0OreidanO0o replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 11:03:40 pm PDT

Originally posted by Grailoch:
Maybe start building internal floors up, see how close to roof you need to get to be "sheltered."
i think it has to do with the horizontal distance.
because right now i have to go about 10m below the roof on the corkscrew stairs to be sheltered, but i have a roof on my main base that's higher than that.
and i think that's because the roof gets too wide below that, so it no longer recognises the edges.
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o0OreidanO0o replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 11:15:59 pm PDT

Originally posted by PakaNoHida:
Unless you use the tarred roofing material, it will always weather, however as I am visualizing it, you should have no problem with what you are trying to build, but screenshots would help everyone here.
No it doesn't. I just checked the roof on my main base and after 300h of playtime, it doesn't have a single scratch, i literally can't repair it. Maybe you have some mod installed that makes the roof deteriorate, but mine doesn't.
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o0OreidanO0o replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 11:21:00 pm PDT

Originally posted by Jitatha:
what mods and pics please


Originally posted by PakaNoHida:
but screenshots would help everyone here.

the screenshots can be found in my profile. tell me if you want more from a sprecific angle.
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i uploaded more screenshots about the sheltered zones. and i have concluded that it has to do with the iron pillars.
i am sheltered in the positions of pictures named "shelterd_[#]":
between 1 and 2
between 3 and 4
form 5 and 6 all the way to the wall
between 7 and 8
from 9 upwards (the highlighted piece is 14m-16m below the peak, 34m-36m from the ground)
i also found two spots in 10 and 11, if i take a step in any direction from those spots, i'm no longer sheltered.

all the sheltered zones are either close to the roof, OR close to an iron pole.
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o0OreidanO0o replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 5:12:57 pm PDT

Originally posted by Jitatha:
what mods and pics please
i'm not using any mods
Originally posted by PakaNoHida:
but screenshots would help everyone here.
how do i post screenshots in a topic? i published them on my steam account
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Grailoch replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 5:22:58 pm PDT

I checked out the screenshots on your profile.

CRAZY!

But it should all be shelter, I agree. Something is happening due to distances involved for sure.

Maybe start building internal floors up, see how close to roof you need to get to be "sheltered."
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o0OreidanO0o replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 5:28:51 pm PDT

Originally posted by Grailoch:
But it should all be shelter, I agree. Something is happening due to distances involved for sure.
in the picture from the inside you can see the sunlight shining through, starting at a certain distance. the room should be dark except for the brazier in the middle. and if i go there it IS dark... but then the sunlight is on the other side :D
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PakaNoHida replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 12:09:49 pm PDT

Originally posted by o0OreidanO0o:
Originally posted by Alji:
That will work fine, though the top will weather and look gray after a while.
just to be clear, i already have a fully funtional roof. it's 50m off the ground at the center and goes all the way down to 12m above ground at the edge. it's a 152m x 152m continuous roof, like a very flat 4 sided pyramid. i'm talking about adding more roofs under the current roof, so nothing will weather.

Unless you use the tarred roofing material, it will always weather, however as I am visualizing it, you should have no problem with what you are trying to build, but screenshots would help everyone here.
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Jitatha replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 12:48:12 pm PDT

I have built a 32 meter tall tower, and do not experience a micro climate inside the building, but then again it is not as large, and is stone. However I do get snow on the top when the tower is in the meadows. This has a thatch roof about 8 m above it, and that functions as you would expect.

I have built a 22m tall stone tower, with a thatch roof and the thatch, though snow covered behaved perfectly normal in mountains.

I have built towers that span two biomes, and again, everything works exactly as expected.

So I can not offer any advice on limits, and as you say you have to go 40m up before the roof functions correctly, i.e. only 12m above your head or so. I have a 25m high atrium, and that works.

So pics please as it sound like you have multiple issues here.
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Alji replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 8:32:19 am PDT

That will work fine, though the top will weather and look gray after a while.
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o0OreidanO0o replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 8:43:17 am PDT

Originally posted by Alji:
That will work fine, though the top will weather and look gray after a while.
just to be clear, i already have a fully funtional roof. it's 50m off the ground at the center and goes all the way down to 12m above ground at the edge. it's a 152m x 152m continuous roof, like a very flat 4 sided pyramid. i'm talking about adding more roofs under the current roof, so nothing will weather.
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Alji replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 5, 2022 @ 11:19:52 pm PDT

Flat wood sections are not considered a roof for the purpose of sheltering (stone floor sections do count). You have to use the 45 degree or 26 degree thatch pieces for a roof. You might have to zigzag them up and down if covering that much space would create too high of a peak. Wouldn't look functional, but fortunately there are no drainage requirements in the game.
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Brew replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 12:46:53 am PDT

For a really tight zigzag, you could just use the V-shaped roof peak pieces. But yeah, not possible in this game to have a flat roof made of wood.
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o0OreidanO0o replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 12:57:41 am PDT

So wood floor is out of the question, i was expecting that. The question remains what's the maximum distance?
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o0OreidanO0o replied to @devs Horizontal and vertical limits for a shelter? June 6, 2022 @ 1:02:40 am PDT

Originally posted by Alji:
Wouldn't look functional, but fortunately there are no drainage requirements in the game.
I would put floor above and underneath the zigzag roof, so it'll look like a normal floor, just a meter thick.
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