Ship / Karve disappeared

I am currently on a very remote Swamp island. I parked the ship there yesterday. Today I went to the spot but the ship was gone and also the ship materials were not there.

So I spawned a new ship using the console because this has happened already several times to me.

So what could be the reason for my Karve to disappear?

Thx
11:13 am, March 29, 2022
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Nefrarya replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 8:07:17 am PST

Just remember that the workstation radius is not like a force field or a cloak of invisibility. Enemies don't spawn in there, but they can spawn outside and move in to destroy your stuff. So you should put your stuff in a little hut with a closed door or set up a ring of palisades.

Despawning should take about 3 in-game days, IIRC.
12:13 am, March 9, 2023
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RaptorMan replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 9:34:01 am PST

Originally posted by Bobucles:
Dismantle your boat and stuff it into storage, or portal the materials to base for safe keeping.
How do I dismantle the boat?
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us271934-Слава Україн replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 9:51:37 am PST

Originally posted by RaptorMan:
Originally posted by Bobucles:
Dismantle your boat and stuff it into storage, or portal the materials to base for safe keeping.
How do I dismantle the boat?

You have to beat it to death - hammer won't 'unbuild" it. As far as the missing materials go if the water is deep enough in a dreary lighting condition like the Swamp they can be nearly invisible. As noted above leeches are quite the vindictive travelers when tasting a boat in the water.

A couple of times in Black Forest or Meadows I had loot lost in the water that was 'gone' when the weather was either cloudy/rainy, in late or early sunlight or a bit foggy. Magically it became visible when the sun was straight above shining unimpeded in all its illuminating glory.
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captainamaziiing replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:09:10 am PST

I don't know, but I had my stonecutters bench disappear, along with the 2 iron bars it needed to be crafted. I was not about to stop what I was doing and quest all over the map to get more iron, so I just spawned them in.

Devcommands is the only thing that makes this game viable. Don't spend too much time worrying about it. Spawn it in, move on with your game.
12:13 am, March 9, 2023
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Nascarman replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:11:36 am PST

Originally posted by captainamaziiing:
I don't know, but I had my stonecutters bench disappear, along with the 2 iron bars it needed to be crafted. I was not about to stop what I was doing and quest all over the map to get more iron, so I just spawned them in.

Devcommands is the only thing that makes this game viable. Don't spend too much time worrying about it. Spawn it in, move on with your game.

How do cheats make the game viable? I can see them being used to fix glitches like this one but if you can’t beat the game without cheating I think it’s a you issue and not the game.
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squashplayer1 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:29:12 am PST

Well...if you are on a remote island and your ship disappears, I am certainly not mining Bronze for 1 hour the make the nails for a new ship and sail again to that island. If things become THAT tedious, I won't do it.

There is a fine line between grind (ok) and super tedious which is not fun in any way anymore.
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Bobucles replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:31:47 am PST

The most common reason for magic boat disappearance is enemy spawns. Hostiles love to actively seek out and trash boats. If there's no work bench nearby (which is also a hot target) the materials will despawn.

Dismantle your boat and stuff it into storage, or portal the materials to base for safe keeping.
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jonnin replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:50:12 am PST

one day seems too fast to despawn the mats, though.
what usually happens is enemy attacks break the ship, the swamp is prone to leeches in any water including the ocean for a long way out. Attacks can move the ship, slightly, so you have to check a radius of where you left it. Once broken, you normally have some time before it despawns.
adding a workbench etc can reduce spawns and attacks as well as preventing despawn, but the enemy are just as likely to smash that as the boat. The best way is still to pack it up somewhere safe and rebuild it when you need it.

Getting stuck with no way out is, as you noted, more tedious than a challenge. The key is to avoid having that happen, via portals usually. When I explore a new shore, I always set up a small camp there... a bench, a chest, a portal, sometimes a fire and cheap comfort like deer rug, some shelter and defenses so the portal stays intact... stow the boat in the chest and off you go. If the island isnt interesting, you can pull up and move on. If it is, you have a base to pop to next time straight from home. If the new place has ore you need, I will also level out the beach terrain to make boating easier. Its now a one way trip, portal home to camp, get ore, boat back home, repeat as needed.
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squashplayer1 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 5:36:42 am PST

Yes good idea to store the boat parts somewhere around the workstation, will do that
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magilla666 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 6:17:34 am PST

Leeches love eating karves. But the mats should still be there. Dunno why they poofed. Can storms wash things out to sea?
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Grailoch replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 6:57:40 am PST

Your boat (and stonecutter for second poster) got destroyed by mobs because you left them somewhere that was not safe. That is not the fault of the game. That is the fault of the player.

Git gud.
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squashplayer1 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 7:06:22 am PST

I have searched everything. The places where I landed the boat there were no materials left.

If there had been the materials, I would have rebuilt the boat, of course.

In other cases, the materials were there.

I suspect that the boat was pulled to the sea by the wind maybe.
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Wizard of Woz replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 7:13:26 am PST

Originally posted by squashplayer1:
I have searched everything. The places where I landed the boat there were no materials left.

If there had been the materials, I would have rebuilt the boat, of course.

In other cases, the materials were there.

I suspect that the boat was pulled to the sea by the wind maybe.
The boat can't move once you are off it. Mobs destroyed your boat. The other times you found your materials is because they hadn't despawned yet.
All items will despawn after a bit if they are not in the radius of a worktable.
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jonnin replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 7:16:48 am PST

Originally posted by magilla666:
Leeches love eating karves. But the mats should still be there. Dunno why they poofed. Can storms wash things out to sea?

No. But the thing chewing on it can move it a short distance. You can move it when you bust it up too, to see what I mean. And mobs can bump into any movable object at random and nudge it a bit.
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squashplayer1 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 7:17:24 am PST

Ok it has to be like this:

I landed the boat at the Swamp coast. Boat was ok then.

I built a bed and workstation at the nearby crypt entrance. The boat was slightly outside the workstation radius.

While I was in the crypt and also in my house (by portal), the boat might have been destroyed by monsters. Materials despawned then.

So, the learning is: take the boat materials and put them inside the Worksation radius.

I would not have expected the boat parts to despawn so quickly.
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wizard_of_woz replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 7:13:26 am PDT

Originally posted by squashplayer1:
I have searched everything. The places where I landed the boat there were no materials left.

If there had been the materials, I would have rebuilt the boat, of course.

In other cases, the materials were there.

I suspect that the boat was pulled to the sea by the wind maybe.
The boat can't move once you are off it. Mobs destroyed your boat. The other times you found your materials is because they hadn't despawned yet.
All items will despawn after a bit if they are not in the radius of a worktable.
5:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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jonnin replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 7:16:48 am PDT

Originally posted by magilla666:
Leeches love eating karves. But the mats should still be there. Dunno why they poofed. Can storms wash things out to sea?

No. But the thing chewing on it can move it a short distance. You can move it when you bust it up too, to see what I mean. And mobs can bump into any movable object at random and nudge it a bit.
5:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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squashplayer1 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 7:17:24 am PDT

Ok it has to be like this:

I landed the boat at the Swamp coast. Boat was ok then.

I built a bed and workstation at the nearby crypt entrance. The boat was slightly outside the workstation radius.

While I was in the crypt and also in my house (by portal), the boat might have been destroyed by monsters. Materials despawned then.

So, the learning is: take the boat materials and put them inside the Worksation radius.

I would not have expected the boat parts to despawn so quickly.
5:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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Nefrarya replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 8:07:17 am PDT

Just remember that the workstation radius is not like a force field or a cloak of invisibility. Enemies don't spawn in there, but they can spawn outside and move in to destroy your stuff. So you should put your stuff in a little hut with a closed door or set up a ring of palisades.

Despawning should take about 3 in-game days, IIRC.
5:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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RaptorMan replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 9:34:01 am PDT

Originally posted by Bobucles:
Dismantle your boat and stuff it into storage, or portal the materials to base for safe keeping.
How do I dismantle the boat?
5:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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us271934-Слава Україн replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 9:51:37 am PDT

Originally posted by RaptorMan:
Originally posted by Bobucles:
Dismantle your boat and stuff it into storage, or portal the materials to base for safe keeping.
How do I dismantle the boat?

You have to beat it to death - hammer won't 'unbuild" it. As far as the missing materials go if the water is deep enough in a dreary lighting condition like the Swamp they can be nearly invisible. As noted above leeches are quite the vindictive travelers when tasting a boat in the water.

A couple of times in Black Forest or Meadows I had loot lost in the water that was 'gone' when the weather was either cloudy/rainy, in late or early sunlight or a bit foggy. Magically it became visible when the sun was straight above shining unimpeded in all its illuminating glory.
5:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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squashplayer1 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:29:12 am PDT

Well...if you are on a remote island and your ship disappears, I am certainly not mining Bronze for 1 hour the make the nails for a new ship and sail again to that island. If things become THAT tedious, I won't do it.

There is a fine line between grind (ok) and super tedious which is not fun in any way anymore.
2:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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Bobucles replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:31:47 am PDT

The most common reason for magic boat disappearance is enemy spawns. Hostiles love to actively seek out and trash boats. If there's no work bench nearby (which is also a hot target) the materials will despawn.

Dismantle your boat and stuff it into storage, or portal the materials to base for safe keeping.
2:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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jonnin replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:50:12 am PDT

one day seems too fast to despawn the mats, though.
what usually happens is enemy attacks break the ship, the swamp is prone to leeches in any water including the ocean for a long way out. Attacks can move the ship, slightly, so you have to check a radius of where you left it. Once broken, you normally have some time before it despawns.
adding a workbench etc can reduce spawns and attacks as well as preventing despawn, but the enemy are just as likely to smash that as the boat. The best way is still to pack it up somewhere safe and rebuild it when you need it.

Getting stuck with no way out is, as you noted, more tedious than a challenge. The key is to avoid having that happen, via portals usually. When I explore a new shore, I always set up a small camp there... a bench, a chest, a portal, sometimes a fire and cheap comfort like deer rug, some shelter and defenses so the portal stays intact... stow the boat in the chest and off you go. If the island isnt interesting, you can pull up and move on. If it is, you have a base to pop to next time straight from home. If the new place has ore you need, I will also level out the beach terrain to make boating easier. Its now a one way trip, portal home to camp, get ore, boat back home, repeat as needed.
2:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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squashplayer1 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 5:36:42 am PDT

Yes good idea to store the boat parts somewhere around the workstation, will do that
2:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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magilla666 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 6:17:34 am PDT

Leeches love eating karves. But the mats should still be there. Dunno why they poofed. Can storms wash things out to sea?
2:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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Grailoch replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 6:57:40 am PDT

Your boat (and stonecutter for second poster) got destroyed by mobs because you left them somewhere that was not safe. That is not the fault of the game. That is the fault of the player.

Git gud.
2:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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squashplayer1 replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 7:06:22 am PDT

I have searched everything. The places where I landed the boat there were no materials left.

If there had been the materials, I would have rebuilt the boat, of course.

In other cases, the materials were there.

I suspect that the boat was pulled to the sea by the wind maybe.
2:13 pm, March 29, 2022
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captainamaziiing replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:09:10 am PDT

I don't know, but I had my stonecutters bench disappear, along with the 2 iron bars it needed to be crafted. I was not about to stop what I was doing and quest all over the map to get more iron, so I just spawned them in.

Devcommands is the only thing that makes this game viable. Don't spend too much time worrying about it. Spawn it in, move on with your game.
11:13 am, March 29, 2022
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Nascarman replied to Ship / Karve disappeared March 29, 2022 @ 4:11:36 am PDT

Originally posted by captainamaziiing:
I don't know, but I had my stonecutters bench disappear, along with the 2 iron bars it needed to be crafted. I was not about to stop what I was doing and quest all over the map to get more iron, so I just spawned them in.

Devcommands is the only thing that makes this game viable. Don't spend too much time worrying about it. Spawn it in, move on with your game.

How do cheats make the game viable? I can see them being used to fix glitches like this one but if you can’t beat the game without cheating I think it’s a you issue and not the game.
11:13 am, March 29, 2022
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