100 days into a permadeath/no portals run.
An update, or just a personal log for myself to reflect on my permadeath/no portals run. This is my third try at it. My first two died in the Meadows early on, one in a dwarf raid by a Brute and one by a normal dwarf. Both were due to me being under-nourished at the time and not watching health bar close enough. Also meadows armor is not too tough.
I just hit day 101, back at my black forest shoreline base. I have only killed Eikthyr so far. But I have found and scouted out the Elder altar on an isle to the east of me. I have started a chest of supplies there, 3 seeds to summon him and other stuff to set up a new base as there appears to be a couple large swamps, a huge mountain, and even some plains and meadows areas a quick walking distance from Elder.
Much of the last two weeks of game days have been on my Karve just mapping shorelines in search of the trader. He was much more difficult to find in this seed than my last two play throughs. I wanted the belt before setting off in search of iron.
It is not as difficult as I expected, not using portals. Just some minor changes in play style. I am always on the lookout for a new potential base location. I also hoard supplies that may have been tossed out on previous runs. Items used for workbench upgrades and other crafting stations for my next long term base. I also tend to set up overnight camps in towers or sit out the night in a troll cave or crypt I have cleared out. I may not need to go to this extent with lvl 3 troll gear and bronze equipment, but I am playing it very safe. That may be why I am already on day 101.
I am going to go clear a couple of Leviathons that I found on my trip, then start off for the Elder and a new main base. Hope I live through next 100 days.
I just hit day 101, back at my black forest shoreline base. I have only killed Eikthyr so far. But I have found and scouted out the Elder altar on an isle to the east of me. I have started a chest of supplies there, 3 seeds to summon him and other stuff to set up a new base as there appears to be a couple large swamps, a huge mountain, and even some plains and meadows areas a quick walking distance from Elder.
Much of the last two weeks of game days have been on my Karve just mapping shorelines in search of the trader. He was much more difficult to find in this seed than my last two play throughs. I wanted the belt before setting off in search of iron.
It is not as difficult as I expected, not using portals. Just some minor changes in play style. I am always on the lookout for a new potential base location. I also hoard supplies that may have been tossed out on previous runs. Items used for workbench upgrades and other crafting stations for my next long term base. I also tend to set up overnight camps in towers or sit out the night in a troll cave or crypt I have cleared out. I may not need to go to this extent with lvl 3 troll gear and bronze equipment, but I am playing it very safe. That may be why I am already on day 101.
I am going to go clear a couple of Leviathons that I found on my trip, then start off for the Elder and a new main base. Hope I live through next 100 days.
2:13 pm, June 6, 2022
Mr. Moustache replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 7, 2022 @ 8:29:10 am PDT
I'm day 54 or 55 in my current hardcore run. Killed Eikthyr on day 7, killed Elder on day 35. Since then I've been spending a lot of time in / around the base, mining and smelting, gardening, etc. No idea where Bonemass is at, and, thus far, I've only discovered 2 or 3 swamp biomes and they're a lengthy sail away.
I'm kinda worried about the swamps if I'm being honest. I think that's where I'll end up dying, but we'll see.
I'm kinda worried about the swamps if I'm being honest. I think that's where I'll end up dying, but we'll see.
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Grailoch replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 7, 2022 @ 8:37:42 am PDT
I'm kinda worried about the swamps if I'm being honest. I think that's where I'll end up dying, but we'll see.
How have you been doing with the Draugr raids? The archers are what concern me. They can snipe me from great distance. Yesterday I farmed chitin for harpoon and abyssal dagger. Now that I have those upgraded to the extent my pre-iron workbench can get them, I literally have every piece of equipment I want to use fully upgraded. I am at a standstill. I guess and can also continue to farm. Maybe try to get a boar farm going. I have a crater from copper mining fairly close to my base I could breed boars in.
But, I either have to go out to kill Elder or venture into the swamps for root armor to progress any further.
I am worried about dying in swamps too. I think that may be where it happens.
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Grailoch replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 4:15:04 pm PDT
Permadeath is a good challenge, but I dont think I could do no portals. On the one hand, I dont like portals and wish I could do without them. But on the other hand, I dislike the inventory system even more. When I go explore I pick up a ton of things, when I'm full I build a portal to my base, go unload everything and teleport back to keep exploring. Without this I would go crazy not being able to collect stuff.
I understand this. I am not very far into the game yet, so have not had too much problem with this, yet. I suspect I will need local storage systems until I get longboat. Or, If I am too far removed, I will just have a new "permanent" base set up.
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blprice61 replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 5:36:51 pm PDT
Permadeath is a good challenge, but I dont think I could do no portals. On the one hand, I dont like portals and wish I could do without them. But on the other hand, I dislike the inventory system even more. When I go explore I pick up a ton of things, when I'm full I build a portal to my base, go unload everything and teleport back to keep exploring. Without this I would go crazy not being able to collect stuff.
So far I've been solving the problem by using different types of bases in addition to a 'main' processing/manufacturing base. I'm also finding that I prefer land routes than water at least until Longship and perhaps for some things even then.
A caveat, I'm using knowledge of how the event system works to avoid needing to fortify every base. It makes for some odd build orders, but allows me to decentralize much easier.
So I have repair bases, overnight bases, cart and ship served warehouse bases, farms with bees and crops, and stash points with campfire and basic workbench. I'm making a habit out of re-purposing old buildings I run across.
The farms need a special note; I need far more crops and bees than with a normal run because I can't usually visit as often. That's where the Karve comes in a bit, as well as Eithkyr run power, mostly using them for trips to farms and in the case of the Karve for exploration.
It is one heck of a logistics problem and I expect it to get worse as I progress. It seems like you need four times as much of everything than with a portal run because things are always in the wrong place.
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vinyblaster replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 3:17:37 pm PDT
Permadeath is a good challenge, but I dont think I could do no portals. On the one hand, I dont like portals and wish I could do without them. But on the other hand, I dislike the inventory system even more. When I go explore I pick up a ton of things, when I'm full I build a portal to my base, go unload everything and teleport back to keep exploring. Without this I would go crazy not being able to collect stuff.
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richarduitt replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 11:08:36 am PDT
It's not a race. I'm almost on day 300 and still haven't killed (or tried to kill) the 2nd boss. And I haven't sailed anywhere as I'm still mapping the coastline of my first island, which I figure must be pretty big, though I've nothing to compare it to as this is my first playthrough.
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Grailoch replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 11:19:20 am PDT
It's not a race. I'm almost on day 300 and still haven't killed (or tried to kill) the 2nd boss. And I haven't sailed anywhere as I'm still mapping the coastline of my first island, which I figure must be pretty big, though I've nothing to compare it to as this is my first playthrough.
I understand that there is no rush to finish in any timeframe.
I am almost at a point of impass though. My gear is almost all maxed out for the pre-iron workbench and forge I have now. So, it looks like the Elder has to be near term on my list of objectives. Sure, I could go into swamps and try and get some root armour first, map out the crypts, and return later with the key. Heck, I may just do that instead and hold back on Elder for a bit =)
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blprice61 replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 11:22:57 am PDT
Definitely not a race. Permadeath noportal is rather rare territory and I do find it helpful to see what pacing another player is experiencing. In other words, to make sure I'm not pushing things too fast.
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richarduitt replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 11:26:11 am PDT
It's not a race. I'm almost on day 300 and still haven't killed (or tried to kill) the 2nd boss. And I haven't sailed anywhere as I'm still mapping the coastline of my first island, which I figure must be pretty big, though I've nothing to compare it to as this is my first playthrough.
I understand that there is no rush to finish in any timeframe.
I am almost at a point of impass though. My gear is almost all maxed out for the pre-iron workbench and forge I have now. So, it looks like the Elder has to be near term on my list of objectives. Sure, I could go into swamps and try and get some root armour first, map out the crypts, and return later with the key. Heck, I may just do that now instead and hold back on Elder for a bit =)
Yes, there are many ways to skin a fish. I've got bronze weapons but not armour. I have frost resist potions because I want onion seeds, but won't search the mountains until I have bronze armour.
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HawdeeHaw replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 11:29:44 am PDT
I did a no portal no boss no bow run many moons ago....You could try just looking for iron in the swamps by using the hoe on sloping edges...I used to get usually get about 8...only ever needed enough for an iron pick... then it was up the mountains for silver. Mind you might be a bit tricky on Permadeath...:)
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Grailoch replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 11:40:58 am PDT
...Mind you might be a bit tricky on Permadeath...:)
Yes, very tricky. My first toon only killed Eikthyr. Then he cheesed iron with door clipping and silver with Stagbreaker. He got his army of two star wolves in bronze era gear. He also died very often pushing into zones too soon. But with portals and infinite lives, it was not a big concern. I chose the no-portals/permadeath path this time to atone for my cheese "sins" of my past toons.
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blprice61 replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 7:37:54 am PDT
Congrats on your progress! I'm still lagging behind you - still in black forest. Have taken a break for a bit from that run because.. well stressing out! I'm terrified when cutting trees especially when half of them turn into delayed action booby traps.*
I'm trying to plan things so that I can move the essentials of a main base using a single cart and, eventually, a few Karve (or single Longship) runs.
Had a bit of a scare a few days ago when I looked out the upstairs window of my new base (then - was just starting copper mining) and saw a Troll across the meadow at the edge of the Black Forest staring back at me. He made a nice pair of pants.
I've not done much sailing as yet, sticking fairly close to the coastlines and just scouting while mining tin. Anyhow, great to hear how you are doing and hope your run continues successfully.
PS: watched a 'permadeath (though not noportal) run by a 'content creator' who shall not be named. I winced at well practically everything he did - taking lots of unnecessary chances.
* I've found that I can more or less disarm the tree traps with creative use of the hoe. Not entirely trusting it because sometimes a log will vanish only to come falling out of the sky a minute later!
I'm trying to plan things so that I can move the essentials of a main base using a single cart and, eventually, a few Karve (or single Longship) runs.
Had a bit of a scare a few days ago when I looked out the upstairs window of my new base (then - was just starting copper mining) and saw a Troll across the meadow at the edge of the Black Forest staring back at me. He made a nice pair of pants.
I've not done much sailing as yet, sticking fairly close to the coastlines and just scouting while mining tin. Anyhow, great to hear how you are doing and hope your run continues successfully.
PS: watched a 'permadeath (though not noportal) run by a 'content creator' who shall not be named. I winced at well practically everything he did - taking lots of unnecessary chances.
* I've found that I can more or less disarm the tree traps with creative use of the hoe. Not entirely trusting it because sometimes a log will vanish only to come falling out of the sky a minute later!
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Grailoch replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 8:36:39 am PDT
I am still in the black forest as well. I have no iron yet. I do have turnips. I sniped 3 seeds from the edge of a swamp and just farmed those up to a good patch. Here is a pic of my base. Karve in a box and workbench on the dock. Tower behind with bed, cooking stations and workbench, forge area is shed out back, garden and bees out front, and off in the woods a dwarf spawner I am using for stone/wood gathering and weapons skill-ups. It will be sad to leave it, but "The Elder awaits."
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2817747392
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2817747392
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blprice61 replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 8:59:52 am PDT
Nice! Mine is just a standard 'barn' with a palisade in Meadows across from Black Forest.
I'm on day 94 but still upgrading... well one piece left (deer hide cape) - have Lvl 3 troll top and bottom, level 3 bronze helm & shield. In a bit of a dilemma at the moment, realized that my repair stations will need forge from here on out so.. need more copper!
Elder is a good ways off from my main base. Once I get 'finalized' for this phase I'll make my way up there.
Do you find yourself building lots of outposts/repair stations in order to extend your range in the absence of portals?
I'm on day 94 but still upgrading... well one piece left (deer hide cape) - have Lvl 3 troll top and bottom, level 3 bronze helm & shield. In a bit of a dilemma at the moment, realized that my repair stations will need forge from here on out so.. need more copper!
Elder is a good ways off from my main base. Once I get 'finalized' for this phase I'll make my way up there.
Do you find yourself building lots of outposts/repair stations in order to extend your range in the absence of portals?
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Grailoch replied to 100 days into a permadeath/no portals run. June 6, 2022 @ 9:16:35 am PDT
This base has lots of copper nodes near it. So I did not have to make any outpost here. I could just run it back. Meadows base was not near anything except Necks and flint, so my first node of copper I made an outpost at. I do make workbenches and fire at every node just to repair picks and get rested.
When I travel and explore, I drop a bed and fire in huts/towers/etc to camp out overnight so I don't have to risk exploring in those more difficult hours. I have never farmed ores or anything when exploring, I just forage plants and map out any points of interest for the future.
When I travel and explore, I drop a bed and fire in huts/towers/etc to camp out overnight so I don't have to risk exploring in those more difficult hours. I have never farmed ores or anything when exploring, I just forage plants and map out any points of interest for the future.
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