Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much?
I mean, it's not even a funhouse anymore. I've strolled around a few swamps and found them almost empty. In spawn of half an hour-ish i've only found one abomination, around a dozen draugr, few leeches, a single oozer and one badly lost graydwarf.
Is it intended, or am i just plain lucky?
Is it intended, or am i just plain lucky?
12:13 am, December 15, 2021
Soulstinger replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 15, 2021 @ 7:13:16 am PST
Finally got home and took a look around. I agree 100% the swamps are nearly deserted now.
I would say this was a bit of an overcorrection.
I would say this was a bit of an overcorrection.
6:13 pm, December 15, 2021
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Lecherous Lychee 🐸 replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 15, 2021 @ 7:20:06 am PST
sure that it's 206, not 205? Besides, spawns increasing or decreasing based on a map seed to a point of having two pretty much different gaming experinces sounds highly unlikely.
Forgive me for being daft, but what does 205 and 206 mean?
6:13 pm, December 15, 2021
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CuriosityKillsTheMADCat replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 15, 2021 @ 7:25:08 am PST
My guess is that the numbers are the game version numbers for Valheim (so that you can "compare" changes).
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Isaac_Clark replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 15, 2021 @ 7:30:52 am PST
Hmm.. yeah I'm noticing that if I go into a swamp and go murder happy (lvl 2 root armor and lvl 3 bronze weapons) I can clear the swamp in a few minutes to the point that it's completely deserted. That used to be impossible regardless of how good your gear was because the spawn rates were too high to ever totally clear it.
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renlish replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 15, 2021 @ 2:35:25 am PST
It must be your map seed. We get mob after mob after mob on ours. To the point where it's almost become a joke. We just need to step foot in the swamp and abominations pop up all over. Leeches are everywhere. Can't go a few feet without smacking into the smelly armpit of a Draugr. Crypts are a bit light on the ground though, I will admit.
12:13 pm, December 15, 2021
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Only-He-Stands-There replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 15, 2021 @ 3:48:28 am PST
sure that it's 206, not 205? Besides, spawns increasing or decreasing based on a map seed to a point of having two pretty much different gaming experinces sounds highly unlikely. It must be your map seed. We get mob after mob after mob on ours. To the point where it's almost become a joke. We just need to step foot in the swamp and abominations pop up all over. Leeches are everywhere. Can't go a few feet without smacking into the smelly armpit of a Draugr. Crypts are a bit light on the ground though, I will admit.
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Draconifors replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 11:37:32 pm PST
Sailed past swamps last night. Spotted plenty of draugr, leeches, and blobs, a wraith spawned almost instantly when night fell. Abominations can't really be spotted from a boat so didn't see any of those.
9:13 am, December 15, 2021
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Xenojawa replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 10:07:09 pm PST
is that what the update did. no wonder i couldnt find a single blob after walking around a day in the swamp. need its trophies for a mod item. the swamp wasnt even that hard once you understood it. hell the abomin can be blocked with just a iron banded shield
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blankitosonic replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 4:46:04 pm PST
today , gets down abomination spawn rate When were they nerfed?
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Sthovin replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 4:46:32 pm PST
Nerfed, or too strong?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/892970/discussions/0/3192486635086486002/
From the linked thread:
Personally I found the swamps no real issue if you took the time to upgrade all your bronze gear to max, as far as I knew swamps were never nerfed but maybe I missed something
https://steamcommunity.com/app/892970/discussions/0/3192486635086486002/
From the linked thread:
After a game break of some months I came back to find Swamps have become impossible to make any progress through.
The volume, levels and speed of respawns has gone through the roof.
200yds turn around look back the way you came and the swamp is reinfested already.
About the 10th time I have tried to make it to a Swamp Crypt with all the best gear available, best meals, potions tons of XP.
As soon a I set foot from the boat in a minute I am surrounded hounded and its hopeless
Personally I found the swamps no real issue if you took the time to upgrade all your bronze gear to max, as far as I knew swamps were never nerfed but maybe I missed something
3:13 am, December 15, 2021
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Only-He-Stands-There replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 4:58:47 pm PST
well, it's not really about difficulty since it was just an iron run at the end of silver age(still feel heartbroken about Moder) and "plain lucky" was meant to a bit ironic. I think it depends on the size of the swamp. For example, a small-ish swamp island near our home base was pretty easy to clear, but venturing into a huge swamp peninsula was quite a lot more difficult. That swamp peninsula spawned an abomination once every 3-5 minutes. When we went through the portal our other players built, and went out the castle gates, an abomination rose up suddenly. After we took that one down, another two popped up at a ruined tower we hid in, then another two popped up consecutively as we made our way to an unopened crypt.
Mind you, we're at the Iron age and not fully upgraded.
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Only-He-Stands-There replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 5:25:28 pm PST
Nerfed, or too strong?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/892970/discussions/0/3192486635086486002/
From the linked thread:After a game break of some months I came back to find Swamps have become impossible to make any progress through.
The volume, levels and speed of respawns has gone through the roof.
200yds turn around look back the way you came and the swamp is reinfested already.
About the 10th time I have tried to make it to a Swamp Crypt with all the best gear available, best meals, potions tons of XP.
As soon a I set foot from the boat in a minute I am surrounded hounded and its hopeless
Personally I found the swamps no real issue if you took the time to upgrade all your bronze gear to max, as far as I knew swamps were never nerfed but maybe I missed something
Just made a little experiment, copied my old bronze age freshmen char(all gear lvl1, xpt cape) and explored the same swamp on 205 and on 206.
Mace, buckler, bronze armor, finewood bow: all level one, a hundred fire arrows, basic meat and queen's jam, no PR mead. "i hate exploring game mechanics and love ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on forums" starter kit, if you'd like.
205 was doable, mostly do to my prior experience, since i've rarely seen less than three enemies and stepping into the water meant nerly instant death(ostly due to a legion of leeches following my every step), and i had to run away every five minutes or so due to abomination(s!) landscaping the mess around to its liking and wraiths giving me a heart atack. i should've noted the numbers, but i'd give it a four funhouses out of five, nine sen's fortresses out of eleven and one badly lost graydwarf out of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ billion.
206 was... lonely. I saw maybe two-ish leeches, one abomination which got bored halfway on its path to me and wandered off render distance(haven't seen it again, probably despawned), handful of draugr and one skeleton. Ah, a few surtlings as well, if they even count. It was a bit better at night, with whole one wraith, but i've still found myself more than comfortable. At least way more comortable than i should be with lvl 1 gear and no PR mead.
Confused by this data i've decided to check on other biomes and found the results pretty much the same. But this time with numbers. Hey numbers, yay.
Gear: irrelevant. Locations: same on both versions.
Meadows: skipped. Plains: still traumatized.
Black forest, all day of walking:
205: 7 graydwarfs, 6 skeletons, one troll.
206: 2 graydwarfs, but quite a bit of mushrooms.
Black forest, all night of walking:
205: 13 graydwarfs, 4 brutes, 6 shamans, 1 sad, half-dead skeleton
206: 6 graydwarfs, 1 brute, 2 shamans. but look and all this thistle!
Mountain, all day of walking and hopping on rocks:
205: 14 wolves, 10 drakes, 2 golems
206: 6 wolves, 7 drakes, no golems
Mountain, all night of walking and hopping on rocks:
205: 4 fenrings, 17 wolves, 8 drakes, no golems.
206: 1 fenring, 6 wolves, 9 drakes, 1 golem. Still quite a pleasant stroll, if not the damn rocks and drakes.
Pretty much it. Kinda thinking that maybe i should transfer this topic to bug section or whatnot.
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BTW, topic you've showed is a git gud issue, and it was on 205
3:13 am, December 15, 2021
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Random Dan Random Snack Man. replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 1:35:17 pm PST
na i get you there swamps just don't feel like i need to ♥♥♥♥ bricks like i used to.
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Lecherous Lychee 🐸 replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 3:50:15 pm PST
I think it depends on the size of the swamp. For example, a small-ish swamp island near our home base was pretty easy to clear, but venturing into a huge swamp peninsula was quite a lot more difficult. That swamp peninsula spawned an abomination once every 3-5 minutes. When we went through the portal our other players built, and went out the castle gates, an abomination rose up suddenly. After we took that one down, another two popped up at a ruined tower we hid in, then another two popped up consecutively as we made our way to an unopened crypt.
Mind you, we're at the Iron age and not fully upgraded.
Mind you, we're at the Iron age and not fully upgraded.
12:13 am, December 15, 2021
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redgreen999 replied to Does anybody else feel like swamps were nerfed bit too much? December 14, 2021 @ 4:11:53 pm PST
When were they nerfed?
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