Padded armor useless?

Hi,

I have collected enough flax and created the Padded Armour.

So in the next fuling village I thought it might be a lot easier than with Wolf Armour. But it wasn't.

Fulings still 2-shot me.

So what is padded armo actually good for?

Thx
2:13 am, April 16, 2022
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Dic Tator replied to Padded armor useless? April 16, 2022 @ 4:55:45 am PDT

Originally posted by Behind_You:

I don't even wear metal chest or legs. Wearing maxed out Troll Leather chest and legs will give you max speed and you will be taking far less hits, especially if you are using a dagger or spear as your weapon.

But the thing is, this game is based on a game where you die in 3 or so hits, so you are always going to have to learn exactly how to dodge all attacks of all enemies no matter what.

Naw mate. 200+ hours in and I haven't dodged a single attack. Parrying works just as well - probably better honestly, because it gives you a few precious seconds to land critical hits on the enemy.
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electricdawn replied to Padded armor useless? April 16, 2022 @ 5:05:03 am PDT

Yeah, I rarely dodge. If I can parry, I will. Some enemies have attacks though, that I can't seem to parry. At least currently.

Fuling Berserkers back hand slap is unblockable for me and hits me hard, even with my full armor. Could be that I need to eat up on more health oriented food. I try to keep it balanced currently to not run out of stamina when running away.

I'm not ashamed to say I run away from hordes of Fulings. ;)
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Fuchsfell replied to Padded armor useless? April 16, 2022 @ 1:45:15 am PDT

Originally posted by electricdawn:
The OP is doing the same mistake over and over and over again and is blaming the devs for the OP not understanding the game, even though they got told over and over again.

1. You can't just charge into enemies nilly-willy.
2. Even the lowliest Fuling hits hard.
3. If you don't eat the food the biome has to offer, you're dead. By now that should be lox pie (and yes, they hit even harder) and blood pudding.
4. Food is more important than armor.
5. Food is MORE important than armor.
6. FOOD is MORE important than armor.

I run around the plains in a combo of lvl 3 padded helm, and leggins, with a lvl 2 Fenris chest to offset the speed penalty. Weapons are lvl 3 draugr fang, lvl 3 black metal shield and axe.

Even the dreaded deathsquito is now mostly an annoyance. Single Fulings easily get disposed off.

What you have to watch out for are Lox, Fuling beserkers and whole groups of Fulings. They will kill you quicker then you can think, if you are not prepared.

Food is THE most important item in Valheim. I keep saying that. Are you ignoring it?

Edit: If Fulings two shoot you, you probably at most ate some deer or pig. Good for meadows, even black forest, but not beyond.


Electricdawn is completely right.
Our group (4-5 People) run around the plains like two or three weeks now.
Me als the "Tank" of the Group and our closeup Damage Dealer both have silver Shields and Frostner to max level both, and wear full Silver + Wolf Cape.
Our Range Master only has a full upgraded Root Set + Lox Cape. Our Scout runs around in full Troll and keep a Lox Cape in Reserve for Mountain runs.

Weapon besides the Frostners are Draugr Fangs and Silver Melee.
Our Food depends on our Role in the Group. Tanks like me eat mostly Sausages, Lox, and Wolf Jerky. Range DD and Scout go with Onion Soup, Lox, and sometimes Eyescream or Wolf Jerky, and... oh boy mostly we are careful.. pick Enemys 1 by 1 or shoot them (like Lox) but there are crazy moments (mostly with a ton of real life Mead in our heads :P ) where we storm a village, frost the most Gobbos and shoot them for fun.

So: Eat well take the Armour that fits your playstyle and have fun.

Only Critic i have is, "Please chance the Troll Set to a 3 ile Set so the Cape can be various, like Root oder Fenris Set"
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electricdawn replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 11:27:23 pm PDT

The OP is doing the same mistake over and over and over again and is blaming the devs for the OP not understanding the game, even though they got told over and over again.

1. You can't just charge into enemies nilly-willy.
2. Even the lowliest Fuling hits hard.
3. If you don't eat the food the biome has to offer, you're dead. By now that should be lox pie (and yes, they hit even harder) and blood pudding.
4. Food is more important than armor.
5. Food is MORE important than armor.
6. FOOD is MORE important than armor.

I run around the plains in a combo of lvl 3 padded helm, and leggins, with a lvl 2 Fenris chest to offset the speed penalty. Weapons are lvl 3 draugr fang, lvl 3 black metal shield and axe.

Even the dreaded deathsquito is now mostly an annoyance. Single Fulings easily get disposed off.

What you have to watch out for are Lox, Fuling beserkers and whole groups of Fulings. They will kill you quicker then you can think, if you are not prepared.

Food is THE most important item in Valheim. I keep saying that. Are you ignoring it?

Edit: If Fulings two shoot you, you probably at most ate some deer or pig. Good for meadows, even black forest, but not beyond.
8:13 am, April 16, 2022
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Shiverperplexed replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 7:39:45 pm PDT

Not sure if anyone has pointed it out but you can see the armor value of your current armor piece by mousing over it in your inventory.
Use this tooltip as a basis for comparison when deciding what to wear.
I've noticed the earliest piece of most armor sets has armor values similar to the max tier of the previous set comparable version with some variation.
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Happyfunball replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 9:39:40 pm PDT

Originally posted by squashplayer1:
My padded armor is not fully upgraded yet, but I assumed that the lowest level of padded armor is already greater than the highest level of wolf armor. But that would maybe too complicated for the devs to understand.

You're blaming the devs because why exactly?

They're not hiding any of these numbers from you. The only way to not know would be to not compare what you were about to make with what you were currently wearing in order to see what the armor difference (or lack thereof) would be. There's only one person to blame for that, and it's not the devs.

To be even more clear, the jump from Wolf to Padded functions exactly the same way as the jump from Iron to Wolf. The highest tier Iron has identical armor to the lowest tier Wolf. So even within the context of understanding how gear progression functions in the game, this isn't unprecedented.
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Science Dog replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 4:21:00 pm PDT

Try upgrading it. Your armor rating hits 100 exactly when the set is fully upgraded (counting cloak).
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Nascarman replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 4:25:15 pm PDT

there’s no other logical conclusion other than that you’re trolling on the forums. First you lied about moder, now you’re lying about fulings 2 shotting you with padded armor on (they do at worst 30-40 damage). It seems the common denominator for your struggles is you, not the game. Either intentional ignorance to food mechanics or a unfortunate encounter turned troll post to rile up the forums is the diagnosis here, and considering people have told you time and time again what to do, you intentionally ignore them.
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retsam1 replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 5:03:01 pm PDT

Originally posted by squashplayer1:
Hi,

I have collected enough flax and created the Padded Armour.

So in the next fuling village I thought it might be a lot easier than with Wolf Armour. But it wasn't.

Fulings still 2-shot me.

So what is padded armo actually good for?

Thx


Fully upgraded wolf armor has the same stats as a freshly made set of padded. Unless you upgrade it fully, you're not going to see any improvement over the wolf set.

And if even in wolf armor, you're getting 2 shot by a general non starred fuling, then I can only surmise you didnt upgrade your wolf armor fully either... if you are also using late mountain biome or plains level foods properly.

All in all, something is amiss.
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squashplayer1 replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 5:26:08 pm PDT

My padded armor is not fully upgraded yet, but I assumed that the lowest level of padded armor is already greater than the highest level of wolf armor. But that would maybe too complicated for the devs to understand.
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Science Dog replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 5:43:25 pm PDT

Originally posted by squashplayer1:
My padded armor is not fully upgraded yet, but I assumed that the lowest level of padded armor is already greater than the highest level of wolf armor. But that would maybe too complicated for the devs to understand.
Well, you unfortunately made an assumption that’s incorrect. Upgrade your armor and use good food. It’ll work out. Good luck to you.
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Redlust replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 5:46:11 pm PDT

Don't forget to utilize that Bonemass buff.
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Bobucles replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 6:04:48 pm PDT

Fully upgraded padded armor goes up to 96, a cloak gives +4 up to 100. Padded armor upgrades are fairly cheap so it pays to get them as quickly as possible.

Max armor and high HP is not enough to charge through a fuling camp. They'll still deal respectable damage and brutes will always hit hard. Damage pulls double duty as both the raw hurt and armor penetration value, so any star fulings will be absolutely brutal.

Bonemass is your fuling camp super power and charging in without it is suicide. The up front damage gets cut in half, which makes armor more effective and double dips into taking even less damage. Poke away at some fulings, activate bonemass, and start carving through them one by one. Five minutes is usually enough time to clear the camp, as long as you keep up a decent pace.
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Behind_You replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 6:05:57 pm PDT

Originally posted by squashplayer1:
Hi,

I have collected enough flax and created the Padded Armour.

So in the next fuling village I thought it might be a lot easier than with Wolf Armour. But it wasn't.

Fulings still 2-shot me.

So what is padded armo actually good for?

Thx
I don't even wear metal chest or legs. Wearing maxed out Troll Leather chest and legs will give you max speed and you will be taking far less hits, especially if you are using a dagger or spear as your weapon.

But the thing is, this game is based on a game where you die in 3 or so hits, so you are always going to have to learn exactly how to dodge all attacks of all enemies no matter what.
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retsam1 replied to Padded armor useless? April 15, 2022 @ 6:46:01 pm PDT

Originally posted by Behind_You:
Originally posted by squashplayer1:
Hi,

I have collected enough flax and created the Padded Armour.

So in the next fuling village I thought it might be a lot easier than with Wolf Armour. But it wasn't.

Fulings still 2-shot me.

So what is padded armo actually good for?

Thx
I don't even wear metal chest or legs. Wearing maxed out Troll Leather chest and legs will give you max speed and you will be taking far less hits, especially if you are using a dagger or spear as your weapon.

But the thing is, this game is based on a game where you die in 3 or so hits, so you are always going to have to learn exactly how to dodge all attacks of all enemies no matter what.

Currently, the maximum speed set would be the Fenris Armor set not troll leather.

Originally posted by squashplayer1:
My padded armor is not fully upgraded yet, but I assumed that the lowest level of padded armor is already greater than the highest level of wolf armor. But that would maybe too complicated for the devs to understand.

As has already been pointed out, your assumption was wrong and it didnt need to be any assumption if you managed to look at the stats after crafting.... that's squarely on you.

It isn't an issue of the devs. The stats and upgrades are as intended. This was a user end issue.
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