the stamina bar is an insult to vikings

just kidding, but what i want to say is that the combat system sometimes, no make that often, feels very frustrating when you run out of stamina.. but comeon, you can slay a dragon, but you cant even swing your axe 5 times around and then you cannot jump over a tree log anymore? what kind of viking is that... u know what i mean :)

(edit: well its not the combat system actually, it also happens after a run, but ok that is logical... but perhaps the penalties for running out of stamina could be adjusted a bit more.... how to say... viking like)
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Roen replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings February 1, 2023 @ 8:13:33 am PST

Originally posted by Quintium:
The game has stamina potions. And you control how the stamina is used. Run less, swing less. Spending more time to kill Mobs to help you staying alive is worth it. Running out of stamina is your own fault. It is like people just play as "fools rush in"

And what is it with this "Viking like" thinking? It is like some people think Nordic people were superheroes back then.


true i admit, later in the game you get stuff that will boost stamina with 600% so that saves a bunch, but still even then when you run out of it you cannot step over a snail anymore somehow you cannot lift your foot high enough xD
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Roen replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings February 1, 2023 @ 8:24:19 am PST

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:
Yup used a mod to make it so sam-regen starts instantly.. that delay is so dumb, jumping and swimming take up 50% less stam.

Also, made it so using a hoe, hammer and cultivator take up 0 stam.. those are 99% done at your own base why the F should I constantly be out of stam when I'm just trying to build and pplant crops.. completely stupid.


well now i also must say that i do think it makes sense building and farming uses stamina because in real life hard work makes you tired also.. but suddenly freeze on the spot haha well ok remembers me i believe in skyrim or older elder scrolls games this also happend but whatever.
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Rhapsody replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings February 1, 2023 @ 8:25:32 am PST

There's no other use for yellow mushrooms than stamina potions. It's probably not a bad idea to be brewing some at all times unless something more important needs to be made. Learned that while ago.
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Webbman replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 7:24:12 am PST

imo it just need two minor changes:

1) the pause after an action should be shortened from .5 seconds to .25 seconds through the skills system.
2) Stamina reduction for weapons should be front loaded so you get all the reduction (33%) by 50 skill points.

both of these would work together to improve the overall feel of the system. Its not the best but only needs a couple of tweaks imo.
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Gladi8er65 replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 8:57:40 am PST

Stamina MANAGEMENT is what is required. As long as you keep fed with the 3 best foods (use stamina-heavy foods while out exploring or doing tasks such as chopping trees)... always keep the rested buff active (if it runs out, stop and make fire to refresh it)... and refrain from sprinting every step of the way, and jumping over everything.

You don't have to walk 100% of the time, but you also should not RUN 100% of the time either.

If you are managing your stamina properly, you barely even notice any times when it is depleted... slow down a bit and make sure you keep your buffs activated, and it's not so bad.
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Turd King replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 9:10:13 am PST

Originally posted by Roen:
Yeah but i mean look at God of War for example a great action fighting 3rd person view game, or dark souls .. when stamina runs out you can still step over a curb or a twig... 🤣

lol You compared a action adventure/ hack and slash games fighting mechanics to a voxel survival game...

Shesh I mean How come Valheim cant have a story as epic as The Witcher 3. Valheim gets two thumbs down from me....

Valheim doesnt have half naked anime girls.. Ugh what a garbage game.

Guess its back to achievement hunting. Now that sounds fun.

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Vazkulator replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 9:19:22 am PST

i agree that you might feel a bit slow by your stamina consumption/preservation and absolute mad low base health

but considering how poor the boss fight mechanics are, its more or less justified
but if the game gets more mechanical boss fights in the future then id probably start asking for more realistic stamina consumption with more abilities such as shield bashing/interrupts and etc

but as the game is played right now, clunky stamina and health is to be expect for balancing reasons
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DarthTanyon replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 10:06:52 am PST

Yup used a mod to make it so sam-regen starts instantly.. that delay is so dumb, jumping and swimming take up 50% less stam.

Also, made it so using a hoe, hammer and cultivator take up 0 stam.. those are 99% done at your own base why the F should I constantly be out of stam when I'm just trying to build and pplant crops.. completely stupid.
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Roen replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 6:24:44 am PST

Yeah but i mean look at God of War for example a great action fighting 3rd person view game, or dark souls .. when stamina runs out you can still step over a curb or a twig... 🤣
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Roen replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 6:27:03 am PST

Originally posted by Roen:
Yeah but i mean look at God of War for example a great action fighting 3rd person view game, or dark souls .. when stamina runs out you can still step over a curb or a twig... 🤣

Actually i dont even remember what happens when stamina runs out have completed both games but whatever.... In those games i dont feel the same frustration when stamina runs out.... It stays nice to play
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Quintium replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 6:34:04 am PST

The game has stamina potions. And you control how the stamina is used. Run less, swing less. Spending more time to kill Mobs to help you staying alive is worth it. Running out of stamina is your own fault. It is like people just play as "fools rush in"

And what is it with this "Viking like" thinking? It is like some people think Nordic people were superheroes back then.
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Tippssy replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 6:44:33 am PST

We modded it to increase stam regen by 50% at all times. Even warm, dry, and well rested it was painfully slow. Combat being 85% "stand or walk around enemies until you have enough stamina to dodge/block and swing back" does not make a game "brutal" or "hardcore".

Things the devs could do to make it better is to scale the regen with how high your max is to make stam food even more desirable, or make tasty mead last 1 minute instead of 10 seconds to give you even more of a health vs stam choice.

We don't want to fully convert it into Dynasty Warriors per se, but let's be real here. Vanilla stam regen sucks.
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Jaggid Edje replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 30, 2023 @ 10:32:09 pm PST

Originally posted by Roen:
What kind of viking is that...

A tired one?
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ling.speed replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 30, 2023 @ 11:12:54 pm PST

I imagine conversations like that but hundreds of years ago...

Dude, my king cant even order whole line of troops to move at the same time. What kind of king is that...
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Tuittu replied to the stamina bar is an insult to vikings January 31, 2023 @ 3:35:06 am PST

You're controlling a viking in a game. It's not a real viking. Just to point out. Vikings don't really care about insults, they are dead.

Stamina is a game mechanic and combat mechanic.
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