Yes, if you want your friends to be able to play your world while you are not online, you have to do a dedicated server that is persistently up. You don't have to buy it if you can learn to set it up yourself (a lesson in how to do so is beyond the scope of these forums; start with google or a class), but you do need one.

If you host the game, you dont need server.

i guess you can't just start a server, you have to be online for the server to work or buy a dedicated one. seems janky

Originally posted by SoloQGames:

i guess you can't just start a server, you have to be online for the server to work or buy a dedicated one. seems janky

You CAN set one up on your own, the tools are provided to do so. Most folks don't have the knowledge, though. You only have to buy it if you don't want to bother hosting it yourself. Not through the game, but an actual separate dedicated server running on your own hardware and connected to the internet.

Yes, if you want to play with your friends, you have to either A: host it, or B: host it by renting a server, or C: host it by setting up your own server (not through the in game interface, that's option A).

Your lack of understanding does not jank make. The world has to be running for people to connect to it. That is universally applicable to any game like this that I can think of. Even Grounded's shared save system requires somebody to be hosting the game while it's played.

Your starting point: go to your library, and search 'valheim dedicated server'. That is what you want, for hosting a persistent world on your own without having to rent a server. I do not have the capacity to help you from that point though, it's too frustrating and I'm not getting paid.

Originally posted by Sunny:

Originally posted by SoloQGames:

i guess you can't just start a server, you have to be online for the server to work or buy a dedicated one. seems janky

You CAN set one up on your own, the tools are provided to do so. Most folks don't have the knowledge, though. You only have to buy it if you don't want to bother hosting it yourself. Not through the game, but an actual separate dedicated server running on your own hardware and connected to the internet.

Yes, if you want to play with your friends, you have to either A: host it, or B: host it by renting a server, or C: host it by setting up your own server (not through the in game interface, that's option A).

Your lack of understanding does not jank make. The world has to be running for people to connect to it. That is universally applicable to any game like this that I can think of. Even Grounded's shared save system requires somebody to be hosting the game while it's played.

Your starting point: go to your library, and search 'valheim dedicated server'. That is what you want, for hosting a persistent world on your own without having to rent a server. I do not have the capacity to help you from that point though, it's too frustrating and I'm not getting paid.

actually i understand completely, I have to rent a server via a third party and play an overpriced subscription for a service most single player games would already provide JUST so i can do something as simple as a co-op experience because the studio behind this game is either to incompetent or money hungry to provide the service itself.
I don't have a spare computer sitting around to just run servers off of so slaving my hardware to this single game so my friends can play is just insanely stupid and paying 10-15 dollars a month for a game i already paid for is basically just a monthly subscription. the reason i gave a short and sweet explanation before is because the sheer stupidity behind this concept in general wasn't worth a detailed explanation.
it's stupid, i shouldn't have to subscribe to a third party or sacrifice a computer just to enjoy a co-op experience with a single other friend. I'm not even talking multiple players, just one other. it's a sorry situation created by a sorry publisher.

You can arrange play times and one of you can host. the other can connect.

yeah we only play when we're both online right now, but that's such a silly solution for a realistically simply problem most games like this don't burden you with a requirement to rent out servers JUST to play with a friend lol. I know renting out servers for various reasons like running them with specific parameters is fairly common for other games, but literally just to play with someone else.... come on.

I'm just curious what single-player games you claim have functioning dedicated servers for free.

not free dedicated service, i'm talking FREE MULTIPLAYER CAPABILITY which is such a basic function of a game like this it's absolutely insane you are so diluted by this game to think otherwise. a perfect example is conan exiles, you can play with your friends no limit any server but if you want to go the extra mile THEN you rent out a server for specifics and unique parameters... BUT they don't charge you just to play with a friend 24/7

that's just one of many examples, this isn't rocket science man just extremely bad game design.

Originally posted by SoloQGames:

not free dedicated service, i'm talking FREE MULTIPLAYER CAPABILITY which is such a basic function of a game like this it's absolutely insane you are so diluted by this game to think otherwise. a perfect example is conan exiles, you can play with your friends no limit any server but if you want to go the extra mile THEN you rent out a server for specifics and unique parameters... BUT they don't charge you just to play with a friend 24/7

Just host the game while you're online, then it's free.

What people call a dedicated server is just a machine that is always on and accepting connections. It could be any machine. Some people use their computer, others just rent a remote machine.

Conan Exiles, that game that costs twice as much as Valheim, with $126 in DLC (that's another 6 Valheims), and purchasable season passes? That Conan Exiles?

Servers cost money to buy and maintain. Conan can offer dedicated servers because it can constantly attempt to drain its users for potentially unlimited amounts of cash with every piece of content it holds hostage.

Valheim is a singular purchase with no source of unlimited revenue. Since the company doesn't have a constant drain on its resources by providing and maintaining servers, it can avoid the need to endlessly fleece its customers.

In short; you're actively demanding that the devs screw over the community as a whole just so you can ignore running your own server for free. "This isn't rocket science man" just extremely bad naivety, ignorance, and laziness.

lets please keep the discussion polite and constructive.
critique the game not each other.

Originally posted by SoloQGames:

i guess you can't just start a server, you have to be online for the server to work or buy a dedicated one. seems janky

I don't understand your complaint, you seem to either want a service that is impossible given the laws of physics as we understand it, or one that is already provided free by Valheim. Servers require power to run, if your Computer is off, the server is off. You can host a dedicated server on your home computer and play valheim at the same time on the same machine as long as you got something better than a Turnip PC. You just have to leave the PC on but you don't need to be physically online in game for it to work, you just have to keep the separate Valheim Dedicated Server app running on the machine. Your friends can then join the server as long as it's kept up by you.

or are you asking for like LAN/Split screen, because that's the only other Offline multiplayer that exists.

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

I don't understand your complaint, you seem to want a service that is impossible. Servers require power to run, if your Computer is off, the server is off. You can host a dedicated server on your home computer and play valheim at the same time on the same machine as long as you got something better than a Turnip PC. You just have to leave the PC on but you don't need to be physically online in game for it to work.

They understand what a dedicated server is. They just refuse to run one themselves for free, and expect it from a game that doesn't have unlimited revenue.

So yeah, they essentially want a service that is impossible.

yeah we only play when we're both online right now, but that's such a silly solution for a realistically simply problem most games like this don't burden you with a requirement to rent out servers JUST to play with a friend lol. I know renting out servers for various reasons like running them with specific parameters is fairly common for other games, but literally just to play with someone else.... come on.

I'm just curious what single-player games you claim have functioning dedicated servers for free.

not free dedicated service, i'm talking FREE MULTIPLAYER CAPABILITY which is such a basic function of a game like this it's absolutely insane you are so diluted by this game to think otherwise. a perfect example is conan exiles, you can play with your friends no limit any server but if you want to go the extra mile THEN you rent out a server for specifics and unique parameters... BUT they don't charge you just to play with a friend 24/7

that's just one of many examples, this isn't rocket science man just extremely bad game design.

Originally posted by SoloQGames:

not free dedicated service, i'm talking FREE MULTIPLAYER CAPABILITY which is such a basic function of a game like this it's absolutely insane you are so diluted by this game to think otherwise. a perfect example is conan exiles, you can play with your friends no limit any server but if you want to go the extra mile THEN you rent out a server for specifics and unique parameters... BUT they don't charge you just to play with a friend 24/7

Just host the game while you're online, then it's free.

What people call a dedicated server is just a machine that is always on and accepting connections. It could be any machine. Some people use their computer, others just rent a remote machine.

Conan Exiles, that game that costs twice as much as Valheim, with $126 in DLC (that's another 6 Valheims), and purchasable season passes? That Conan Exiles?

Servers cost money to buy and maintain. Conan can offer dedicated servers because it can constantly attempt to drain its users for potentially unlimited amounts of cash with every piece of content it holds hostage.

Valheim is a singular purchase with no source of unlimited revenue. Since the company doesn't have a constant drain on its resources by providing and maintaining servers, it can avoid the need to endlessly fleece its customers.

In short; you're actively demanding that the devs screw over the community as a whole just so you can ignore running your own server for free. "This isn't rocket science man" just extremely bad naivety, ignorance, and laziness.

lets please keep the discussion polite and constructive.
critique the game not each other.

Originally posted by SoloQGames:

i guess you can't just start a server, you have to be online for the server to work or buy a dedicated one. seems janky

I don't understand your complaint, you seem to either want a service that is impossible given the laws of physics as we understand it, or one that is already provided free by Valheim. Servers require power to run, if your Computer is off, the server is off. You can host a dedicated server on your home computer and play valheim at the same time on the same machine as long as you got something better than a Turnip PC. You just have to leave the PC on but you don't need to be physically online in game for it to work, you just have to keep the separate Valheim Dedicated Server app running on the machine. Your friends can then join the server as long as it's kept up by you.

or are you asking for like LAN/Split screen, because that's the only other Offline multiplayer that exists.

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

I don't understand your complaint, you seem to want a service that is impossible. Servers require power to run, if your Computer is off, the server is off. You can host a dedicated server on your home computer and play valheim at the same time on the same machine as long as you got something better than a Turnip PC. You just have to leave the PC on but you don't need to be physically online in game for it to work.

They understand what a dedicated server is. They just refuse to run one themselves for free, and expect it from a game that doesn't have unlimited revenue.

So yeah, they essentially want a service that is impossible.

Originally posted by Sunny:

Originally posted by SoloQGames:

i guess you can't just start a server, you have to be online for the server to work or buy a dedicated one. seems janky

You CAN set one up on your own, the tools are provided to do so. Most folks don't have the knowledge, though. You only have to buy it if you don't want to bother hosting it yourself. Not through the game, but an actual separate dedicated server running on your own hardware and connected to the internet.

Yes, if you want to play with your friends, you have to either A: host it, or B: host it by renting a server, or C: host it by setting up your own server (not through the in game interface, that's option A).

Your lack of understanding does not jank make. The world has to be running for people to connect to it. That is universally applicable to any game like this that I can think of. Even Grounded's shared save system requires somebody to be hosting the game while it's played.

Your starting point: go to your library, and search 'valheim dedicated server'. That is what you want, for hosting a persistent world on your own without having to rent a server. I do not have the capacity to help you from that point though, it's too frustrating and I'm not getting paid.

actually i understand completely, I have to rent a server via a third party and play an overpriced subscription for a service most single player games would already provide JUST so i can do something as simple as a co-op experience because the studio behind this game is either to incompetent or money hungry to provide the service itself.
I don't have a spare computer sitting around to just run servers off of so slaving my hardware to this single game so my friends can play is just insanely stupid and paying 10-15 dollars a month for a game i already paid for is basically just a monthly subscription. the reason i gave a short and sweet explanation before is because the sheer stupidity behind this concept in general wasn't worth a detailed explanation.
it's stupid, i shouldn't have to subscribe to a third party or sacrifice a computer just to enjoy a co-op experience with a single other friend. I'm not even talking multiple players, just one other. it's a sorry situation created by a sorry publisher.

You can arrange play times and one of you can host. the other can connect.

i guess you can't just start a server, you have to be online for the server to work or buy a dedicated one. seems janky

Originally posted by SoloQGames:

i guess you can't just start a server, you have to be online for the server to work or buy a dedicated one. seems janky

You CAN set one up on your own, the tools are provided to do so. Most folks don't have the knowledge, though. You only have to buy it if you don't want to bother hosting it yourself. Not through the game, but an actual separate dedicated server running on your own hardware and connected to the internet.

Yes, if you want to play with your friends, you have to either A: host it, or B: host it by buying a server, or C: host it by setting up your own server (not through the in game interface, that's option A).

Yes, if you want your friends to be able to play your world while you are not online, you have to do a dedicated server that is persistently up. You don't have to buy it if you can learn to set it up yourself (a lesson in how to do so is beyond the scope of these forums; start with google or a class), but you do need one.

If you host the game, you dont need server.

Nobody likes griefers and cheaters on their server. That's why they have passwords.

Valheims multiplayer is very rudimentary implemented, and there are currently no official tools to restrict players from doing mischief.

Please remember that the game is still in development and that most likely the content will be up, front and center on the developers list.

Additional features like multiplayer will probably have to wait until it's their turn.

Why? So you can grief/get grief'd by everyone else on the server? There is absolutely no reason to play with randoms.