Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks!
Title says it all.
Done 'perma-death'.
Done 'no portals'.
Done 'perma-death-no-portals' (not made it to the plains on this one yet).
But never tried 'No Bosses' and such an approach has piqued my interest. So all you 'no bosses' vets share your tips-and-tricks with me.
I get concepts like Troll mining, but what about things like build order, tool prioritization, etc.
Hmmm?
Done 'perma-death'.
Done 'no portals'.
Done 'perma-death-no-portals' (not made it to the plains on this one yet).
But never tried 'No Bosses' and such an approach has piqued my interest. So all you 'no bosses' vets share your tips-and-tricks with me.
I get concepts like Troll mining, but what about things like build order, tool prioritization, etc.
Hmmm?
8:13 pm, July 9, 2022
76561198045515469 replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 10, 2022 @ 7:54:38 am PDT
try new game
2:13 pm, July 14, 2022
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electricdawn replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 10, 2022 @ 11:37:46 am PDT
Trolls for copper, tin.
Stagbreaker for that elusive iron. I only farmed enough iron to make a iron pickaxe, lvl 5 tool bench upgrade, and the silver sword. Some left over.
Stagbreaker also for silver in the mountains. MUCH easier to find than iron.
My "no portals - no bosses" char Gudrun is fully decked out in lvl 3 Wolf armor, lvl 3 silver shield and lvl 2 silver sword. Also lvl 4 bronze atgeir. Works still like a champ in the mountains and plains.
Found a third silver vein for the upgrade of the silver sword to lvl 3.
My goal is to visit the altars of all bosses. Problem will be Bonemass, but we'll see about that. Got as far as the Elder, but the seed I'm playing on "Valheim" has large continents, so I've explored only two continents so far, and not even those fully.
I'm going to take my time. Good thing now is I can go everywhere and will hopefully not encounter major problems. I've been roaming the plains already. Stayed away from lox and tar pits. Would like to try tar pits, but I need a good mace for that and I'm hesitant about the bronze mace, if it's good enough.
Edit: Swamps is fine with lvl 3 troll gear and lvl 3 bronze buckler. Get the root armor mask ASAP for poison protection. Once you got the full root armor, you can sort of tank Abominations. You can block some of the attacks, but not all of them. You would need the iron banded shield for that. But iron is too precious, you should spend it on the pick axe.
Edit2: Yes, I know about Frostner, but haven't found the trader yet. That shifty dwarf is elusive as hell.
Stagbreaker for that elusive iron. I only farmed enough iron to make a iron pickaxe, lvl 5 tool bench upgrade, and the silver sword. Some left over.
Stagbreaker also for silver in the mountains. MUCH easier to find than iron.
My "no portals - no bosses" char Gudrun is fully decked out in lvl 3 Wolf armor, lvl 3 silver shield and lvl 2 silver sword. Also lvl 4 bronze atgeir. Works still like a champ in the mountains and plains.
Found a third silver vein for the upgrade of the silver sword to lvl 3.
My goal is to visit the altars of all bosses. Problem will be Bonemass, but we'll see about that. Got as far as the Elder, but the seed I'm playing on "Valheim" has large continents, so I've explored only two continents so far, and not even those fully.
I'm going to take my time. Good thing now is I can go everywhere and will hopefully not encounter major problems. I've been roaming the plains already. Stayed away from lox and tar pits. Would like to try tar pits, but I need a good mace for that and I'm hesitant about the bronze mace, if it's good enough.
Edit: Swamps is fine with lvl 3 troll gear and lvl 3 bronze buckler. Get the root armor mask ASAP for poison protection. Once you got the full root armor, you can sort of tank Abominations. You can block some of the attacks, but not all of them. You would need the iron banded shield for that. But iron is too precious, you should spend it on the pick axe.
Edit2: Yes, I know about Frostner, but haven't found the trader yet. That shifty dwarf is elusive as hell.
8:13 pm, July 10, 2022
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birdsass replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 10, 2022 @ 7:54:38 am PDT
try new game
5:13 pm, July 10, 2022
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Grailoch replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 8:30:34 pm PDT
Never done no bosses. One world where only first boss. Clipping glitches for iron. You never get black metal or linen. Others have said ways for early finewood and finding silver. Rest of game is pretty much regular play.
5:13 am, July 10, 2022
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Cobretti replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 4:21:54 pm PDT
Sounds like a good run, add no maps perhaps? Seeing as you have played a few times you likely won't need the crutches that most beginners do (metal armor / shields) so your metal requirements shouldn't be that much anyways, just weapon of choice and whatever tools / crafting station upgrades you need and nails for boats.
2:13 am, July 10, 2022
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blprice61 replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 6:53:15 pm PDT
In a pinch you could reduce your copper/tin needs by not making a bronze axe. Only really needed for cutting fine wood which can be obtained initially by rolling logs together, and later by hunting down shipwrecks and recovering from stools at stone towers.
2:13 am, July 10, 2022
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GunsForBucks replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 2:02:24 pm PDT
Personally I would want silver.
With wolf you can comfortably deal with the plains.
I don't like to glitch but I guess there is supposed to be some way to get in to / out of iron crypts.
Other than that...
go light armor and just outrun stuff?
Kind of hard to judge progression without using metal stuff or killing bosses.... I guess as long as you have a plains farm and have 5 totems you can call it good?
With wolf you can comfortably deal with the plains.
I don't like to glitch but I guess there is supposed to be some way to get in to / out of iron crypts.
Other than that...
go light armor and just outrun stuff?
Kind of hard to judge progression without using metal stuff or killing bosses.... I guess as long as you have a plains farm and have 5 totems you can call it good?
11:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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Eightball replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 2:26:52 pm PDT
I think the end goal in a 'no boss' run is establishing yourself in the Plains; a late stage base so to speak. At least that will be my goal for the run.
11:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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GunsForBucks replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 2:42:59 pm PDT
Typically I include getting the boss summon items. Not really an issue until the mountains.Originally posted by Eightball:I think the end goal in a 'no boss' run is establishing yourself in the Plains; a late stage base so to speak. At least that will be my goal for the run.
But getting 5 totems makes it feel "complete" to me.
I guess I like to think of it as a world I can go back to and quickly deal with the bosses later and continue when the game expands.
11:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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Eightball replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 2:47:00 pm PDT
@GunsForBucks Good approach especially since we will hopefully get new gear/weapons/consumables over time that might make those boss encounters 'different' when tried with new stuff. I think I might run with it.
11:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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Sabaithal replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 11:18:35 am PDT
Considering killing the first boss is necessary to get the basic pickaxe, and you can't get any other pickaxes without the basic pickaxe, pretty sure that's where you'd be softlocked.
You essentially can neither build nor use anything that requires mined ores/material.
You essentially can neither build nor use anything that requires mined ores/material.
8:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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Eightball replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 12:16:12 pm PDT
Actually you bait trolls to do the mining for you. If you run them around tin/copper nodes and pause long enough at the right spot so they attack you then those attacks will crack the nodes open. Kill troll. Collect ore.
It can take a bit longer as you need to find trolls, lead them to nodes and then run them around a bit, but it works.
Finding iron and silver becomes a bit more of an issue, but both can be located and mined since you will have been able to make a bronze pick.
It can take a bit longer as you need to find trolls, lead them to nodes and then run them around a bit, but it works.
Finding iron and silver becomes a bit more of an issue, but both can be located and mined since you will have been able to make a bronze pick.
8:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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Łαяsι σð replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 12:22:46 pm PDT
Trolls can mine for you. You can then find iron buried in the swamp or by killing oozers, and in the mountains you can use the stagbreaker or iron sledge to find silver.Originally posted by Sabaithal:Considering killing the first boss is necessary to get the basic pickaxe, and you can't get any other pickaxes without the basic pickaxe, pretty sure that's where you'd be softlocked.
You essentially can neither build nor use anything that requires mined ores/material.
8:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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Sabaithal replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 12:53:27 pm PDT
Trolls can mine for you. You can then find iron buried in the swamp or by killing oozers, and in the mountains you can use the stagbreaker or iron sledge to find silver. [/quote]Originally posted by Łαяsι σð:You essentially can neither build nor use anything that requires mined ores/material.
How exactly do you get stagbreaker on a no boss run?
8:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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Łαяsι σð replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 12:56:02 pm PDT
stagbreaker doesnt need anything you need to kill bosses forOriginally posted by Sabaithal:How exactly do you get stagbreaker on a no boss run?
8:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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Eightball replied to Going for my first 'No Bosses' run; Share your tips and tricks! July 9, 2022 @ 12:57:31 pm PDT
The Stagbreaker unlocks when you get your first piece of core wood, no need to kill any boss for the recipe and no boss parts needed to craft it.
As an aside it is a great early AOE weapon and I am surprised more people don't embrace it. It can make short work of some of the early raids as well.
As an aside it is a great early AOE weapon and I am surprised more people don't embrace it. It can make short work of some of the early raids as well.
8:13 pm, July 9, 2022
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