trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers

so people ruining dedicated servers is really going too far now.
i did not lose only stuff i build or gear i placed in chests, this time i also lost a friend.

i just ended up in a very nasty situation, where i am seen as the troll that messed up 100+ hours of peoples playtime and even money for the hosting.

and now i feel like sjit. :( i was playing valheim to find an escape from the reality of life ... not to get more drama... i also spend like 50+ hours on that server to build stuff, and the group ended with suddenly all the boss heads hanging and the fun of the game was destroyed.. so the server had to be reset because we didnt even noticed when the boss trophies were placed.

we maybe could fix this if there was a player log on dedicated server also so it could be seen who is pulling the troll tricks on the server, but we cant find a way to check this same log on our dedicated server?
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Roen replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:04:07 am PST

is there perhaps any way that the devs could check anything back? because this guy who hosted the server is now calling me a snake and even putting comment under my steam profile stuff
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Rhapsody replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:04:48 am PST

Password-protected server?
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Maelstrom replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:05:11 am PST

I would never ever ever ever ever play a game like this with randoms. Just no.

And even if I did decide to start a server and play with other people, I'd still take a snapshot every day just to have something to roll back to in case something like this happens.
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Roen replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:06:13 am PST

it was a dedicated server so yes all the servers on valheim btw have password
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Hatsune Neko Gaming replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:08:45 am PST

Originally posted by Roen:
is there perhaps any way that the devs could check anything back? because this guy who hosted the server is now calling me a snake and even putting comment under my steam profile stuff

Developers don't have access to servers, they are all player hosted.
talk to the one who rented the server.
but i got no idea if there are logs of the event, i don't know anything about that part.
also shouldn't join servers that post open access passwords if that's the case. that's inviting troll attacks.
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Roen replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:10:28 am PST

Originally posted by Hatsune Neko Gaming:
Originally posted by Roen:
is there perhaps any way that the devs could check anything back? because this guy who hosted the server is now calling me a snake and even putting comment under my steam profile stuff

Developers don't have access to servers, they are all player hosted.
talk to the one who rented the server.
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well thats the problem, the guy who rented the server is the one that was my friend that now thinks i have betrayed him. so now he doesnt want to talk with me, at least he blocked me
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Hatsune Neko Gaming replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:13:15 am PST

then you have to talk to them. or record your playthroughs.
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Jaggid Edje replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:13:36 am PST

If your 'friend' is blaming you without actual evidence to support that belief, than he was never a real friend in the first place. Just mho.
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Roen replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:15:33 am PST

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:
If your 'friend' is blaming you without actual evidence to support that belief, than he was never a real friend in the first place. Just mho.

well at least he was my steam friend
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Roen replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:26:04 am PST

it just would be better if the person that rented the server has access to the player log so he can find out who messed things up, but we tried to find this out, but we could not find such a file because for dedicated servers the files directories are different

such a log could prove my innocense in this case, because now i am getting a heavy blame
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Hatsune Neko Gaming replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:35:29 am PST

make new steam friends
if they badmouthing you on your profile. report the message to steam then delete it.
you have control over what's posted on your profile.
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Cap'n Bells replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 8:52:43 am PST

Sad news here..Hey I dont know ♥♥♥♥♥ about Dedicated Servers but can they be backed up? by the host /admin.. and yes there should be somewhere logs of whos online etc...
On a seperate thought though ..Clearly though it appears a malicious Party has accessed the server and is achieving their goal of spreading Chaos.. backups, logs access/user rights these are the common tools Online Servers need.. perhaps worthy of logging a ticket to have Ded Server Logs in the future Full release at very least
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Roen replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 9:04:21 am PST

Originally posted by Cap'n Bells:
Sad news here..Hey I dont know ♥♥♥♥♥ about Dedicated Servers but can they be backed up? by the host /admin.. and yes there should be somewhere logs of whos online etc...
On a seperate thought though ..Clearly though it appears a malicious Party has accessed the server and is achieving their goal of spreading Chaos.. backups, logs access/user rights these are the common tools Online Servers need.. perhaps worthy of logging a ticket to have Ded Server Logs in the future Full release at very least

they can be backed up. but it wasnt clear at what point the boss throphies were placed, and the latest backup seemed to be already past that point.
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Cap'n Bells replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 9:29:03 am PST

Originally posted by Roen:
Originally posted by Cap'n Bells:
Sad news here..Hey I dont know ♥♥♥♥♥ about Dedicated Servers but can they be backed up? by the host /admin.. and yes there should be somewhere logs of whos online etc...
On a seperate thought though ..Clearly though it appears a malicious Party has accessed the server and is achieving their goal of spreading Chaos.. backups, logs access/user rights these are the common tools Online Servers need.. perhaps worthy of logging a ticket to have Ded Server Logs in the future Full release at very least

they can be backed up. but it wasnt clear at what point the boss throphies were placed, and the latest backup seemed to be already past that point.
thats a bummer :-(
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jonnin replied to trolls ruining more than just dedicated servers February 10, 2023 @ 9:50:01 am PST

"Notice: Gaming experience may change during online play"

Lawyer words to say that idiots online can screw up your happy place. At some point, if they have the keys to the kingdom, it can happen. I can't see how if you have 3 people, A,B, and C where you are A, how can C be mad at A if B did something? This implies that C is unreasonable and not much of a friend? I can't imagine being mad at someone because someone else is a jerk.

I agree there should be logs to see who did what -- every item created in the world or stored in a chest should be marked with the ID of the person who created it or stored it. And every time an item is destroyed or taken by someone with a different ID, it should be logged. Terrain editing that that results in destruction of other players' things logged as well. Sounds like maybe also boss kills & trophy hanging logged. Not sure what else.

And we may get that at release, but its not there now :(
all you can do is make frequent backups and try to figure it out.
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